YO!!NFL should punish Daniel Snyder like NBA did Sterling

[GatorStaceyAdams]

Yeah it's so racist that other Native Americans still use it for their high school teams and buildings.

How about this- can you at least say that there are some that find the word offensive? Shouldnt that be enough to rethink using that particular word?

As a black man, I say a lot of words that I would find offensive if someone else said them. How is this any different? Hell, I know for a fact that many brotha's probably say n----- far more than any Native ever uses the word redskin- does that mean 'nikka' is any less offensive though?

 

[True Weltch Media]

Washington redskins should become the Washington Redhawks or braves.



Numerous civil rights, educational, athletic, and academic organizations consider any use of native names/symbols by non-native sports teams to be a harmful form ofethnic stereotyping which should be eliminated.[28] Several college teams that formerly used the name have changed voluntarily:

• The University of Utah Redskins became Utah Utes in 1972.
• The Miami University (of Ohio) Redskins became the RedHawks in 1997.
• The Southern Nazarene University Redskins became the Crimson Storm in 1998.

In California, a bill presented in 2005 by Assemblywoman Jackie Goldberg to ban the use of the name Redskins as a public school mascot was vetoed more than once.[29] There were many opponents of the bill, including students from schools with the Redskin mascot - most prominently Tulare Union High School in Tulare, and Chowchilla Union High School in Chowchilla.[30]

The issue also exists in Canada. Ian Champeau, an Ojibway man in Ottawa, Ontario filed a human rights complaint against the Nepean Redskins Football Club on behalf of his five-year-old daughter in an effort to get the team to change its name. “How are they going to differentiate the playing field from the school yard? What’s going to stop them from calling my daughter a redskin in the school yard? That’s as offensive as using the n-word.” Assembly of First Nations National Chief Shawn A-in-chut Atleo said he supports the move because the word Redskin is “offensive and hurtful and completely inappropriate.[31] Niigaan Sinclair (Anishinaabe), a writer and assistant professor at the University of Manitoba applauds the decision and contrasts it to the decision of Dan Snyder, the Washington team owner. Citing the combination of the stereotype of the Indian with sports in the early twentieth century: "The marriage of the Sioux-like warrior name and image to sports was complete, celebrating and re-telling American violence against indigenous communities every time one appears on sports highlights. It's tough to change abusive relationships." [32] At a cost of 75 to 100 thousand dollars, the team was changed to the "Nepean Eagles", chosen from 70 suggestions submitted.[33] After the change was announced, Ian Champeau received hostile messages on social media from unhappy fans, some sufficiently threatening to be reported to the police.[34]

 

[mrken12]

Times are changing. The name redskins is slowly on its way

At the high school level 28 teams in 18 states have dropped the "Redskins" name during the past 25 years as a result of a combination of state legal action, protests from Native American groups, or voluntarily. However, there remain 62 high schools in the United States that continue to use the redskins name. Three of these have a majority of Native American students: Red Mesa High School (Arizona), Wellpinit High School Wellpinit, Washington and Kingston High School Kingston, Oklahoma.[35] In 2000 James S. Rickards High School changed its name from the Rickards Redskins to Rickards Raiders due to perceivedracial implications of the word. The following year, under threats of litigation from the Native American Bar Association,Consolidated School District 158 in Huntley, Illinois changed the team name "Huntley Redskins" to "Huntley Red Raiders."[36]Edmondson-Westside High School in Baltimore, Maryland changed from the Redskins to the Redstorm in 2002.

In 2011 the Red Lodge High School in Montana changed to the Rams after 50 years of being the Redskins.[37][38] In June 2013 administrators of a high school in Driggs, Idaho announced that it will drop its longtime "Redskins" nickname, logo and mascot to show respect for Native Americans.[39] In July, Members of the Shoshone-Bannock Tribes met with Teton School District to express their support for this decision.[40] However a similar decision by the Canisteo-Greenwood School Board in New York prompted public protest resulting in a statement that the issue would be studied further.[41] Other High Schools in the process of making a name change include Lancaster, New York[42] and Port Townsend, Washington.[43]

However some highly visible schools such as Union HS in Tulsa retain the name in spite of opposition by Native Americans. After failing in her to appeals directly to Neshaminy High School, a parent filed a complaint with the Pennsylvania Human Relations Commission alleging "The Redskins" name is a form of harassment offensive to Native Americans and her 13-year-old son who attends the school. The school board unanimously voted to ask the commission to dismiss the complaint,[44] but the student paper voted to stop using the name.[45] However, the principal and the school board president have decided that the student paper's editorial board does not have the right to refuse to use the name.[46]

In December, 2013 the Houston, TX school district approved, in a preliminary vote, a new policy against any ethic mascots which would require a change for several schools including the Lamar High School Redskins.[47][48]

So we're using Wikipedia as a reliable source now?

How about this- can you at least say that there are some that find the word offensive? Shouldnt that be enough to rethink using that particular word?

As a black man, I say a lot of words that I would find offensive if someone else said them. How is this any different? Hell, I know for a fact that many brotha's probably say n----- far more than any Native ever uses the word redskin- does that mean 'nikka' is any less offensive though?

I'm not denying that some people find the word offensive. But polls and the general consensus of Native Americans show that this controversy isn't a top priority for them.

And I really don't like the n-word comparison because the historical origin of the word's intended use is far more well defined than the "redskin" one.

 

[True Weltch Media]

So we're using Wikipedia as a reliable source now?



I'm not denying that some people find the word offensive. But polls and the general consensus of Native Americans show that this controversy isn't a top priority for them.

And I really don't like the n-word comparison because the historical origin of the word's intended use is far more well defined than the "redskin" one.

It's a quick reference .everything in their is legit. OR Do you want me to post where these countless sources came from or are you gonna stop trolling

 

[mrken12]

It's a quick reference .everything in their is legit. OR Do you want me to post where these countless sources came from or are you gonna stop trolling

I'm not trolling at all. But that all still doesn't change the fact that only one tribe has been vocal about the issue regarding the Washington Redskins. And the Washington Redskins only use the name and the logo. They don't have any war cries, guy in a mascot suit, or other aspects appropriating the Native American culture. And just because some people feel offended about something, it doesn't speak for all of them so these isolated situations don't really change that or change the fact that most Native Americans still use the Redskin name in their community.

Also let's not overlook that much of the "outrage" is coming from white people who want to use this hollow fight as a way to show their "compassion" for Native Americans when we know that they could use the energy to help Native Americans with far more important issues.

 

[True Weltch Media]

I'm not trolling at all. But that all still doesn't change the fact that only one tribe has been vocal about the issue regarding the Washington Redskins. And the Washington Redskins only use the name and the logo. They don't have any war cries, guy in a mascot suit, or other aspects appropriating the Native American culture. And just because some people feel offended about something, it doesn't speak for all of them so these isolated situations don't really change that or change the fact that most Native Americans still use the Redskin name in their community.

If u read my links you would see that their is more than one tribe. There are full associations of mixed tribes that have been fighting the name of the nfl team since the 60s. And no most Native American communities don't use the redskin name. There are some but not most. It is offensive to many and your failing to see that.

 

[mrken12]

If u read my links you would see that their is more than one tribe. There are full associations of mixed tribes that have been fighting the name of the nfl team since the 60s. And no most Native American communities don't use the redskin name. There are some but not most. It is offensive to many and your failing to see that.

I'm talking about the Washington Redskins situation. Not all of those other isolated instances. And I'm aware that this fight about the name has been going on for a while and has been on and off in terms of momentum. Mainly because only a small group of people are concerned about the issue. For those few Native American communities who still use the name, what's their excuse then? Native Americans have unity and respect for their culture so if this was a pressing issue, the name would have been changed a long time ago.

As for the polls about the name:

Poll: 71% don't think Redskins should change name

‘Redskins’ question in 2004 Annenberg study cited anew in controversy – The Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania

 

[ExodusNirvana]

LOL @ anyone black arguing AGAINST racial equality for another race.

fukk the c*nts you c00ns slid out of. The Black Panthers stood up for people of all shades of color and fast forward to 2014, you shiftless ass motherfukkers are arguing IN FAVOR of keeping a teams racist ass name.

You know what would happen if they tried to marginalize the voice of black people the way ya'll are trying to do the Native Americans?

This is why I hate The Coli sometimes. Bunch of fake ass militants all day...

 

[tru_m.a.c]

LOL @ anyone black arguing AGAINST racial equality for another race.

fukk the c*nts you c00ns slid out of. The Black Panthers stood up for people of all shades of color and fast forward to 2014, you shiftless ass motherfukkers are arguing IN FAVOR of keeping a teams racist ass name.

You know what would happen if they tried to marginalize the voice of black people the way ya'll are trying to do the Native Americans?

This is why I hate The Coli sometimes. Bunch of fake ass militants all day...

These nikkas ain't black militants. They're not revolutionary thinkers or active in they're community. They're just anti-cac.

This shyt is not about equality to them. It's not about freedom from discrimination or liberty. Their emotions are all based on revenge. So consumed with reversing history instead of learning from it and setting a new path for racial relations.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

These nikkas ain't black militants. They're not revolutionary thinkers or active in they're community. They're just anti-cac.

This shyt is not about equality to them. It's not about freedom from discrimination or liberty. Their emotions are all based on revenge. So consumed with reversing history instead of learning from it and setting a new path for racial relations.

It's like they're not even using logic

NATIVE AMERICANS DON'T HAVE A VOICE BECAUSE THEY WERE WIPED OUT

Think about that for a second.

They enslaved us. But them? They just said fukk it...murk em all out and take the land.

Now dudes got the nerve to say "Well it's only one tribe". Motherfukker...what if Africa had caught the work that the "New World" had caught?

White folks would be saying the same shyt "Well it does'nt seem like too many Blacks care that the Carolina c00ns is a racist name...."

Hell they use that divisive shyt now with Black Republicans!

 

[Prince Akeem]

These nikkas ain't black militants. They're not revolutionary thinkers or active in they're community. They're just anti-cac.

This shyt is not about equality to them. It's not about freedom from discrimination or liberty. Their emotions are all based on revenge. So consumed with reversing history instead of learning from it and setting a new path for racial relations.

.................................................

 

[Versa]

they can even keep the logo

Nah man. Logo gotta go too.

That's like if it was called the Washington Blackfaces and we rally to get that name changed, but then they keep the big red lipped, kinky fro, big eyed, charcoal skinned logo on.

No compromise. It all gotta go.

 

[really]

Amount of time it took blacks to become "outraged" About Sterling's comments?: 5 Minutes

Amount of time it took Indians to become "outraged" About the Redskin's name?: 80 years

 

[GatorStaceyAdams]

These nikkas ain't black militants. They're not revolutionary thinkers or active in they're community. They're just anti-cac.

This shyt is not about equality to them. It's not about freedom from discrimination or liberty. Their emotions are all based on revenge. So consumed with reversing history instead of learning from it and setting a new path for racial relations.

Well damn

Preach brotha

 

[Versa]

These nikkas ain't black militants. They're not revolutionary thinkers or active in they're community. They're just anti-cac.

This shyt is not about equality to them. It's not about freedom from discrimination or liberty. Their emotions are all based on revenge. So consumed with reversing history instead of learning from it and setting a new path for racial relations.

I feel you, but it's also hard for blacks to feel compelled to come to the rescue of others when shyt is still messed up in our own backyard. I always felt the best thing for blacks to do is to make sure WE are straight first, THEN worry about repairing/building race relations with others.

nikkas talking about helping to build other people's houses when ours has a leaky roof, a clogged toilet, and a broken refrigerator. Let's fix our house first breh.

EDIT: To be clear, I'm not saying "fukk the native americans". The name's gotta go. I'm saying we have to prioritize ourselves because only we can take care of we.