You guys think that America can continue like this?

Wild self

The Black Man will prosper!
Supporter
Joined
Jun 20, 2012
Messages
83,745
Reputation
12,630
Daps
227,531
whoa.. .so i'm a stiff, if i dont have a skill or work in a niche area? Wow thats pretty uhhh ridiculous to say or think.

Want you to have a 150 IQ and be happy with a paycheck :aicmon:
 

rapbeats

Superstar
Joined
Jun 8, 2012
Messages
9,362
Reputation
1,900
Daps
12,858
Reppin
NULL
what really happened.. is this.
Capitalism + Lobbyist, Globalization, and Automation
The markets can't correct themselves like they use to because the ultra rich are rigging the game via lobbying tactics.
this also locks out a great deal amt of small to medium businesses that would be doing pretty good in the US.

Globalization had to happen at some point(thank you internets, among other things.) but this falls in line with my old thread about slavery being the US capitalisms best friend. Oh the US companies have realized us EMPLOYEES dont want to work for low wages and less benefits. so these companies said eff it, we'll take our talents to china, mexico, etc. etc. now the funny thing is. that game is also a shell game. because the moment any of these countries get sick of getting paid dirt pies. these same companies they once loved will run away from them too(it has already happened) and go to the next place they can abuse employees and pay them dirt pies.

Automation: computers..YAYYYY... BOOOO. its a gift and a curse.
 

EndDomination

Veteran
Supporter
Joined
Jun 22, 2014
Messages
31,835
Reputation
7,402
Daps
111,850
what really happened.. is this.
Capitalism + Lobbyist, Globalization, and Automation
The markets can't correct themselves like they use to because the ultra rich are rigging the game via lobbying tactics.
this also locks out a great deal amt of small to medium businesses that would be doing pretty good in the US.

Globalization had to happen at some point(thank you internets, among other things.) but this falls in line with my old thread about slavery being the US capitalisms best friend. Oh the US companies have realized us EMPLOYEES dont want to work for low wages and less benefits. so these companies said eff it, we'll take our talents to china, mexico, etc. etc. now the funny thing is. that game is also a shell game. because the moment any of these countries get sick of getting paid dirt pies. these same companies they once loved will run away from them too(it has already happened) and go to the next place they can abuse employees and pay them dirt pies.

Automation: computers..YAYYYY... BOOOO. its a gift and a curse.
Slavery was actually the US' worst enemy, and surprisingly enough, Adam Smith would agree with me on this point.
It held us back economically and innovation-wise for about 150 years, just imagine the "creative destruction" and "paradigm-shifting" that would have happened if the 10 million kidnapped Africans, had immigrated with full-rights and access to the technology of the time?
If the South wouldn't have "needed" to be an extractive economy? If its economy wouldn't have needed to have been decimated by the Civil War?

The markets can't correct themselves because, they are theoretical, and this "best fit" post-Keynesian model we've been working with for the past 70-80 years or so hasn't been able to properly measure anything because of massive abnormalies in the world economic system. Perhaps in a world of "equal footing" there would be a better likelihood of the models applying broadly, but not while countries South Sudan and Afghanistan are gaping holes in the world economy and China is moving toward the greatest income equality in history.

America certainly can continue like this, and will. Until there is either a revolution, a second large-scale world war, or a string of successful reform campaigns to nearly every sector of this country.
 

MAKAVELI25

the heir apparent
Supporter
Joined
Jun 21, 2012
Messages
19,406
Reputation
5,735
Daps
76,276
Reppin
#ByrdGang
Slavery was actually the US' worst enemy, and surprisingly enough, Adam Smith would agree with me on this point.
It held us back economically and innovation-wise for about 150 years, just imagine the "creative destruction" and "paradigm-shifting" that would have happened if the 10 million kidnapped Africans, had immigrated with full-rights and access to the technology of the time?
If the South wouldn't have "needed" to be an extractive economy? If its economy wouldn't have needed to have been decimated by the Civil War?

The markets can't correct themselves because, they are theoretical, and this "best fit" post-Keynesian model we've been working with for the past 70-80 years or so hasn't been able to properly measure anything because of massive abnormalies in the world economic system. Perhaps in a world of "equal footing" there would be a better likelihood of the models applying broadly, but not while countries South Sudan and Afghanistan are gaping holes in the world economy and China is moving toward the greatest income equality in history.

America certainly can continue like this, and will. Until there is either a revolution, a second large-scale world war, or a string of successful reform campaigns to nearly every sector of this country.

It's definitely a major assumption on your part that the benefits from the creativity that would have come from those Africans emigrating of their own volition wold have exceeded the benefits of the value created through their unpaid labor.

My argument goes more toward the benefits of unpaid labor than the creativity/innovativeness of said Africans, if you know what I'm saying.
 

EndDomination

Veteran
Supporter
Joined
Jun 22, 2014
Messages
31,835
Reputation
7,402
Daps
111,850
It's definitely a major assumption on your part that the benefits from the creativity that would have come from those Africans emigrating of their own volition wold have exceeded the benefits of the value created through their unpaid labor.

My argument goes more toward the benefits of unpaid labor than the creativity/innovativeness of said Africans, if you know what I'm saying.
I know, my assumption is firmly rooted in classic Economic theory, as well as contemporary interpretations by Charles C. Mann, Joyce Appleby, Daron Acemoglu and James Robinson.
The benefits of paid-labour with social allowances far exceed that of unpaid labour, which limits capitalism through the chattelhood of the worker, creates an underclass that in effect drags down the economy, eliminates the potential for billions in personal economy, and when abolished creates a black hole in the economy (same with a lot of Latin America and South America post-slavery).
Just like how upping the education of an already high-school educated workforce can add trillions over a lifetime, the same is true of allowing an entire people their own volition.
And this completely ignores the potential Africa as a whole had, had they been introduced to Western tech through trade as opposed to through colonialism and slavery.
 

BlackEfron

BlackieRobinson
Joined
Oct 10, 2015
Messages
564
Reputation
-1,220
Daps
652
I heard we have like 14 years of indium left on the earth and that is used to make consumer electronics like iPhones and such
We messed up when we left women in the economy
Not much beef left either

- blackierobinson
 

Wild self

The Black Man will prosper!
Supporter
Joined
Jun 20, 2012
Messages
83,745
Reputation
12,630
Daps
227,531
I heard we have like 14 years of indium left on the earth and that is used to make consumer electronics like iPhones and such
We messed up when we left women in the economy
Not much beef left either

- blackierobinson

:merchant:

We better find renewable energy and such before it all goes to shyt.
 

TransJenner

Banned
Joined
Oct 26, 2015
Messages
17,675
Reputation
-6,042
Daps
31,219
Let me predict the future for you and somebody save this :


Everyone's gonna say the country was founded under rasicism .

We're gonna need a NEW system

They're gonna start over and change everything

Expect some sort of world wide Union (another event will "reunite" everyone again) and watch everyone embrace a new political system on a world wide stand point
 

TransJenner

Banned
Joined
Oct 26, 2015
Messages
17,675
Reputation
-6,042
Daps
31,219
I also think a lot of the concepts from Satanism will be included in the future of our society , people are strating to realize that the devil isn't a big evil bad guy but brings "knowledge"
 

The Coochie Assassin

Banned
Supporter
Joined
Feb 15, 2013
Messages
14,549
Reputation
3,314
Daps
79,581
Reppin
RD4L
People either don't know, don't show, or don't care about what's gonna happen to the economy by 2050.

Robots b

Tech/Robots/Automation will change American society in 30 years. A lot of these jobs will not be around in 2046 :francis: Just look at how people shop now compared to 1996. A lot of people hardly go into a store unless it's something urgent. And these online stores bout to nip that in the bud. These fools gonna have instant delivery one day.

People who would be stocking shelves at Walmart or picking up and dropping off rental cars will be living in public housing and getting a lil check to buy the bare minimum. The police state will keep them in order. Cameras will be on every corner, no crime will go unseen. Your phones will be monitored.

They are easing us in with all these kiosks. Lowkey, when I talk to someone on that online chat feature on websites, I have a suspicion it's AI sometimes and not a real person :jbhmm:

To thrive in 2050...

1. Learn how to work with robots/tech
2. Be a creative. There are things a human mind can still do that robots can't.
3. Become the top 5% in whatever field you are in. The Internet is killing every industry. The best employees can be contracted remotely. It's already happening today. Why hire you when I can hire the best online, no matter where he lives.

Everyone else will be at the bottom, in rags...looking like the Hunger Games
 

Wild self

The Black Man will prosper!
Supporter
Joined
Jun 20, 2012
Messages
83,745
Reputation
12,630
Daps
227,531
People either don't know, don't show, or don't care about what's gonna happen to the economy by 2050.

Robots b

Tech/Robots/Automation will change American society in 30 years. A lot of these jobs will not be around in 2046 :francis: Just look at how people shop now compared to 1996. A lot of people hardly go into a store unless it's something urgent. And these online stores bout to nip that in the bud. These fools gonna have instant delivery one day.

People who would be stocking shelves at Walmart or picking up and dropping off rental cars will be living in public housing and getting a lil check to buy the bare minimum. The police state will keep them in order. Cameras will be on every corner, no crime will go unseen. Your phones will be monitored.

They are easing us in with all these kiosks. Lowkey, when I talk to someone on that online chat feature on websites, I have a suspicion it's AI sometimes and not a real person :jbhmm:

To thrive in 2050...

1. Learn how to work with robots/tech
2. Be a creative. There are things a human mind can still do that robots can't.
3. Become the top 5% in whatever field you are in. The Internet is killing every industry. The best employees can be contracted remotely. It's already happening today. Why hire you when I can hire the best online, no matter where he lives.

Everyone else will be at the bottom, in rags...looking like the Hunger Games

We need basic income checks to give everyone a middle class income standard of living as well as embracing small businesses.
 
Top