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Yet none of these so called proud hoes envision their daughters engaging in similar lifestyles. Stop it. There is no such thing as a proud hoe. These same women will lie and reform themselves when in the face of a man they find desirable. This is nothing more than false bravado aimed at concealing deep seated issues.


Do I want them to know about my long erotic roll call, those many men whose names and faces I have forgotten? Of course not; I'm writing this anonymously. The so-called sexual revolution did not rid women of their shame, or of "false consciousness". Only my closest girlfriends (and certainly not my partner) know the full details of my sexual history. I want my daughters to enter their sexual lives with the fullest of hearts. I want them to enjoy their sexuality, but I also want them to be safe. I certainly don't want them to sleep with as many men as I did. I also wish for them a more mature appreciation of consequence. What did those many sexual encounters bring me? Did they enrich my life? Give me a deeper understanding of men, of human nature? It seems I hardly thought my body belonged to me, or that I had any personal responsibility over it.

Experience: I regret my sexual history

Marilyn Monroe, who rihanna has cited as an influence, is universally seen as the first female celeb to be demostratively sexual publicly. We see memes to this day quoting marilyns percieved sexual freedom. However, Monroe was a deeply unhappy woman in spite of her outward portrayal of the same attitude rihanna professes to have in this song. rihanna is likely just as unhappy.

'Despite all the photos of her winning smile, Marilyn was a profoundly sad person. This makes sense when you think about it — the most desired woman in the world and she couldn’t find happiness with a man. Incredibly famous and her own mother didn’t know who she was. Desperate to have a family and unable to maintain a pregnancy. But back then, before social media and reality TV, the public had no idea about how Marilyn was struggling because the most important part of her image was projecting a happy, sexy starlet.'


As I stated, this is false bravado

I stopped at the bold. There are proud hoes everywhere male and female who don't lie about being hoes. You can even google a lot of them. They are not ashamed.

& Do you feel the same way about promiscuous males? They have deep seated issues as well, right?
 

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I stopped at the bold. There are proud hoes everywhere male and female who don't lie about being hoes. You can even google a lot of them. They are not ashamed.

& Do you feel the same way about promiscuous males? They have deep seated issues as well, right?


Can you please link me to some of these proud hoes? I prefer for them to be individuals like the ones I cited who have lived long full lives, at least 50 years of age, well adjusted and exhibit no feelings of regret. Rihanna is in her 20s. She hasnt even hit 30. Do you think she will operate with the same mentality when she is in her 50s? Do you think she will teach her daughter to conduct herself in such a manner? Very likely not. From most first hand accounts and anecdotal evidence women who live by the lyrics of this song are filled with regret. You should have read the story. As the woman says, sleeping around and collecting a 'hit list' did not enrich her life, make her happier or fulfill her in anyway. In fact, she makes the assertion, that it didn't seem her body even belonged to her or that she had any responsibility over it. There is nothing wrong with female sexuality but this over the top bravado is simply masking other issues.

This isn't about promiscuous males. Why is that always the go to deflection in these type of arguments? that is a whole different argument that isn't really related to what we are discussing. You can make a thread and ill meet u in there. Stay on point. I brought you first hand accounts from women because rihanna is a woman and her lyrics are clearly directed toward promiscious women. Why are you bringing up men when the lyrics are not aimed toward them?



You stopped reading after the bolded but the bit about deep seated issues is after that? Why you lying bro?
 

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:what: Theres no winning sounds of straight up bitterness to me :camby: hoes mad cause a nikka finessed they're dumb ass out their panties and now they want to try and "run game" on a nikka back or have that mentality :ld: it's not going to work on a nikka who knows how to run game only a simp. But let these dumb broads think that way and have you on their "hit list" just smash and move on to the next how it's always been :troll:


Also women aren't capable of doing what men do to them, they're too emotional. So It's all just bull shyt talk amongst each other, women empowerment yall :troll:
they still get dogged out :lolbron:
 
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nikkas really think chicks aren't trying to get fukked? :mjlol:

nikkas think it's coincidence that girls are being more sexually open and expressive as women start making more money? :mjlol:

nikkas think that girls didn't have rosters of dudes that she cycles through depending on her mood (The p*ssy eating enthusiast, the roughneck, the bunker buster, etc) :mjlol:

Some of you nikkas must be broke and ugly. :mjlol:
 

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Can you please link me to some of these proud hoes? I prefer for them to be individuals like the ones I cited who have lived long full lives, at least 50 years of age, well adjusted and exhibit no feelings of regret. Rihanna is in her 20s. She hasnt even hit 30. Do you think she will operate with the same mentality when she is in her 50s? Do you think she will teach her daughter to conduct herself in such a manner? Very likely not. From most first hand accounts and anecdotal evidence women who live by the lyrics of this song are filled with regret. You should have read the story. As the woman says, sleeping around and collecting a 'hit list' did not enrich her life, make her happier or fulfill her in anyway. In fact, she makes the assertion, that it didn't seem her body even belonged to her or that she had any responsibility over it. There is nothing wrong with female sexuality but this over the top bravado is simply masking other issues.

This isn't about promiscuous males. Why is that always the go to deflection in these type of arguments? that is a whole different argument that isn't really related to what we are discussing. You can make a thread and ill meet u in there. Stay on point. I brought you first hand accounts from women because rihanna is a woman and her lyrics are clearly directed toward promiscious women. Why are you bringing up men when the lyrics are not aimed toward them?



You stopped reading after the bolded but the bit about deep seated issues is after that? Why you lying bro?


Lots of people tell their kids to enjoy their 20's. Go out have fun, experiment, find yourself and be safe. Safe meaning use condoms and don't do anything too crazy. People grow through stages in life. That doesn't mean that they regret what they did especially if it was fun/enjoyable at the time. You are in your little dream land. That is not what it is in 2016.

It's clear that you feel it's ok for males to do which is why you didn't want to answer it. I can't take opinions from people like that seriously so, I think I'm done here :queen:
 

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Did Rihanna diss Meek ?
Not that I know of, but I did see something about chris brown saying something about the song. I'm about to go read it and see what's happening. I'll probably make a thread too.
 

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nikkas really think chicks aren't trying to get fukked? :mjlol:

nikkas think it's coincidence that girls are being more sexually open and expressive as women start making more money? :mjlol:

nikkas think that girls didn't have rosters of dudes that she cycles through depending on her mood (The p*ssy eating enthusiast, the roughneck, the bunker buster, etc) :mjlol:

Some of you nikkas must be broke and ugly. :mjlol:

Idk why it's so difficult for them to understand/accept.
 

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Although I disagree with the guys saying that no man can be hurt by a woman pumping and dumping, pretty much every guy would take beign pumped and dumped, over nothing at all.

Really, the guys that would be hurt, would probably not be bothered at all if they were told the deal ahead of time. It's only when some guys think they got a bad chick that they are going to be knocking down for an extended period of time, and then come to realize it was a 3 and out, is when some dudes are disappointed.

Point is, women can't do to men, what men can do to women. It's not the same. Yeah, you can have a dude sprung after putting it on him, but it's just because he wanted to have more sex with you, not because he's fallen for you as a person. He would take that scenario any day tho. The little bit of disappointment doesn't come near to the value of his success with her.
 

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Lots of people tell their kids to enjoy their 20's. Go out have fun, experiment, find yourself and be safe. Safe meaning use condoms and don't do anything too crazy. People grow through stages in life. That doesn't mean that they regret what they did especially if it was fun/enjoyable at the time. You are in your little dream land. That is not what it is in 2016.

It's clear that you feel it's ok for males to do which is why you didn't want to answer it. I can't take opinions from people like that seriously so, I think I'm done here :queen:


Smh. You haven't address anything I've said since the beginning of our exchange. I asked you to link me to some 'proud hoes' with the criteria I set forward. Where are they? I asked you whether or not rihanna will teach her daughter to live her life by the standards set forth in her lyrics. I linked you to a woman who lived by the lyrics in rihannas song. She collected a hit list throughout her younger years. As an older woman she regrets her behavior and hopes her daughters enjoy their sexuality, as they should, but cautions against the detriment behavior like that brings about. As she stated, during the course of her life when she lived rihannas lyrics she seemingly exhibited little personal responsibilty and confirmed she was not personally fulfilled. Theres a fine line between enjoying your 20s and collecting a 'hit list.' Celebrity women who collected hit lists and were extremely open with their sexuality all seem to be complete wrecks. Pam Anderson, superhead, janice dikkinson the list goes on. These women have substance abuse issues, body image issues, and health issues--among other issues. I will say it again, there is nothing wrong with female sexuality. However, anecdotal evidence suggests that the over the top bravado expressed in rihannas lyrics are nothing more than cloaking agent masking deeper issues connected to self esteem and self worth. Again, can you explain to me why you continually refer to men when we are discussing female sexuality? I haven't said it's okay for anyone to do anything. I just wont be drawn into a completely different argument because your argument has been destroyed. This has prompted you to move goals posts and deflect. Likely also the reason you're quitting on this exchange. Stay on topic.
 

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i fukks w this song :wow:

she sounds mad sexy at the end when she's humming :banderas::banderas:
 

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Tryna fix your inner issues with a bad btch.
she didnt even write this its just drakes brilliant ghostwriting
sounds awfully similar like his verse on "take care" that features her:ufdup:


I know you’ve been hurt by someone else
I can tell by the way you carry yourself
If you let me, here’s what I’ll do
I’ll take care of you
I’ve loved and I’ve lost

I’ve asked about you and they told me things
But my mind didn’t change
And I still feel the same


this veres is so real:banderas:

look how he tip toes around her promiscuity to get in her pants

check out the duality of the next song


So I'm going through her phone if she go to the bathroom
And her purse right there, I don't trust these hoes at all
But that's just the result of me paying attention

To all these women that think like men with the same intentions
Talking strippers and models that try to gain attention
Even a couple pornstars that I'm ashamed to mention


 
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