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The Hacksaw Jim Duggan hate is crazy

It's probably cause Jim Duggan's peak was during a time when a lot of people on here either weren't even born, or were very young. I first noticed Duggan in 93. He was pretty much washed athletically from 97 and on. Hell, WCW had him finding titles in the trash like he was Mideon and wearing a custodian outfit as ring attire in their latter years :mjlol:

And Konnan was a sloppy as shyt wrestler for a very long time who had charisma, that's pretty much it
 
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He didn't have "workrate". He put in zero effort and had zero skill. He was dangerous, reckless, selfish, and drew as much attention as possible to the fact that everything you're watching is fake, which is the worst thing a wrestler can do during a match. Then you had his promos, which were just stealing shyt from various rappers. Then you had his insanely stereotyped Mexican accent when this mother fukker was Cuban and grew up in Boston/Florida.

There's a reason no one can name a good Konnan match, and if they do, it's from Mexico and no one has actually watched it, they just repeated something Meltzer said 25 years ago. His highest rated match is Cien Caras vs. Jake Roberts vs. Konnan and anyone that has watched that knows it is an absolute shyt show. Barely even a match, more like a 15 minute angle. But that was his highest rated match because Meltzer has always had a hard on for overrating international wrestling because that shows how much smarter you are than the average fan. Konnan is, was, and will always be absolute garbage.
Its clear you just dont like the man, which is fine. But nothing about the way he worked seemed fugazi especially considering the SUPER FAKE LUCHADORES he was facing like that piece of garbage super calo, the botchmachine juve, silverking, etc

His matches with rey and psichosis were all dope, his you cite things like "selfish" and "zero skill" which simply are intangible and wrong and "reckless" when there isnt a reputation of him out there hurting guys. He just has a rep of getting blown up which IMO was a function of him working the speed of his no-selling luchadores.

If you dont like the man thats 100% fine but you are stating opinions as facts which is erroneous. Konnan was over as fukk with the crowd and he had a strong moveset that got people into matches. Theres a reason he has achieved everywhere but WWE who tried to make him fukking megaman.
 

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My middle-school self says :pacspit: to this Konnan slander. You ain't bowdy-bowdy OR rowdy-rowdy right now, @stro. :mjcry:

Though, this slander just made me realize something about Konnan. It was already a forgone conclusion, IMO, that X-Pac and Konnan essentially had the same role as the guys that held down the mid-card in the popular stable. What I didn't really pay too much attention to before now was they both had their runs with the European Title & TV title in the same 3-4 month span. Wonder if that was on purpose? :leostare:
 

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Five bimbos who were totally incapable of working a decent, solid match. They mocked true women's wrestlers like Trish Stratus, Bull Nakano and myself.


Damn didn't even think to mention divas but GODDAMN Ashley Massaro was fukkING GARBAGE WITH HER FAKE ASS CEMENT LOOKING t*ts they were all on that bytch man she was brutal.


5 divas who were change the channel status not attractive not good in ring just a big pile of nothing annoying and not worthy of getting TV time nothing memorable about them at all

Ashley
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Its clear you just dont like the man, which is fine. But nothing about the way he worked seemed fugazi especially considering the SUPER FAKE LUCHADORES he was facing like that piece of garbage super calo,
His matches with rey and psichosis were all dope, his you cite things like "selfish" and "zero skill" which simply are intangible and wrong and "reckless" when there isnt a reputation of him out there hurting guys. He just has a rep of getting blown up which IMO was a function of him working the speed of his no-selling luchadores.

If you dont like the man thats 100% fine but you are stating opinions as facts which is erroneous. Konnan was over as fukk with the crowd and he had a strong moveset that got people into matches. Theres a reason he has achieved everywhere but WWE who tried to make him fukking megaman.

Except he does have a reputation of hurting guys, specifically the luchadudes who he felt he could beat the shyt out of because he got them a job. Of course he didn't do that with bigger name guys, because those guys wouldn't let him do shyt them. Your whole idea is that Konnan being over and helping bring in luchadores means he wasn't shytty or an all time worst to me. Pretty objectively, he was not good in the ring. Very poor technique, zero selling, no flow or psychology at all. Yes, he was over. So were a lot of other guys that were terrible in the ring. Get off my dikk and on Konnan's and leave me the fukk alone with this shyt. You aren't convincing me that Konnan somehow wasn't 10000% dogshyt.
 

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See, this was a reular conversation, but this is why nobody likes you here, wrestling forum, reddit, and why (despite my compliment) nobody fukks with your website. they disagree and its fukk you time. Grow up.

You have 3 posts arguing with me over why I'm wrong about thinking a wrestler sucks for reasons that have nothing to do with his wrestling. This isn't a debate thread. It's a thread for shytting on wrestlers you don't like. So, respectfully, go tell someone else how wrong they are for not liking some shytty dude.
 

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Men:
Sheamus-Irish Jeff Jarrett. He should have never been anything other than mid-card enhancement talent.
Great Khali-No redeeming qualities as a performer.None. Just a big goofy looking fukk.
Grado-What do people see in him exactly?
Ken Kennedy-shyt wrestler. Fooled people into thinking he had charisma due to his corny catchphrase.
Early Miz: Obnoxious. shyt wrestler. Came across as a kid in his backyard trying to play a wrestler.(He's gotten better I admit)

Women:
AJ: Tremendously overrated. Never had a match as good as any of the four horsewomen have had. Weirdo fanbase.
Velvet Sky:10+ years in the game but still painfully awkward and clumsy in the ring.
Rhaka Chan: shyt. Got booked on TNA strictly because she was Kurt Angle's side p*ssy.
Sable: Trash. Never cared for wrestling. Got over due to being in the right place and the right time and era.
Ashley Massaro: Brought nothing to the table. Worst diva search winner.

Honorable Mention:
Early-Mid 2000's Triple H-Pushed like he was Rock,Austin,and Hogan rolled into one but had none of the drawing power. That run pretty much exposed the fact he is not someone you can build around. Jim Cornette said it best that he isn't the money guy but the guy who works with the money guy.

And fukk him forever for WrestleMania XIX
 

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Women:
AJ: Tremendously overrated. Never had a match as good as any of the four horsewomen have had. Weirdo fanbase.
Velvet Sky:10+ years in the game but still painfully awkward and clumsy in the ring.
Rhaka Chan: shyt. Got booked on TNA strictly because she was Kurt Angle's side p*ssy.
Sable: Trash. Never cared for wrestling. Got over due to being in the right place and the right time and era.
Ashley Massaro: Brought nothing to the table. Worst diva search winner.

Honorable Mention:
Early-Mid 2000's Triple H-Pushed like he was Rock,Austin,and Hogan rolled into one but had none of the drawing power. That run pretty much exposed the fact he is not someone you can build around. Jim Cornette said it best that he isn't the money guy but the guy who works with the money guy.

And fukk him forever for WrestleMania XIX

Man Rhaka Khan was terrible, and not even all that cute :russ:

Ashley....Jesus Christ...girl moved like she was stuck in quicksand, and through punches that would even make Ambrose laugh
 

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Damn didn't even think to mention divas but GODDAMN Ashley Massaro was fukkING GARBAGE WITH HER FAKE ASS CEMENT LOOKING t*ts they were all on that bytch man she was brutal.


5 divas who were change the channel status not attractive not good in ring just a big pile of nothing annoying and not worthy of getting TV time nothing memorable about them at all

Ashley
Jillian Hall
Kelly Kelly
Rosa Mendes
Cameron

Totally forgot about Divas. I'm going to have to add Kelly Kelly to my list as well. There are obviously worse wrestlers and it's blatant, but she was annoying as hell to watch. I hate woman wrestlers who feel the need to scream ALL the time. The most annoying thing about her, though....

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She always come across (to me) as a goofy young surfer chick that got warped from the 80's into the 2000's and stumbled her way into becoming a wrestler, finding ways to win accidentally.
 

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the @Konnan hate is just :mindblown:

dude has charisma and very innovative in ring. he was one of the most over guys during the hottest period in wcw
and he's not a bad poster :ehh:
 
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