Artificial Intelligence
Not Allen Iverson
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YouTube and the Let's Play copyright fiasco
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I think he'll win. Like I've been saying your interaction with a piece of software is not owned by the company that makes the software. If you film yourself interacting with software and upload it to the video to the internet you've done nothing wrong. it just so happens the place these people upload these videos to pays them to upload videos. the company that made the software isn't entitled to a dime of that just like they aren't entitled to the money you make selling a used game. these companies don't own you and they don't own what you do. if you pay their license fee to use their software that's all they can ask of you.good luck with that
people are going down a slippery slope here. is the company that created the keyboard used to type the award winning script of a movie entitled to a cut of the movie profits because their keyboard was used to type it? if you used something a company made that you legally purchased to create something else and profit off your creation no way in hell should the company that was only in the business of selling you what they sold you be entitled to anything.
This ain't the King of New York where some guy wants in if a nickle bag gets sold in a park and nothing goes down unless he's involved.
It's strange but what's good for the goose isn't good for the gander meaning it's not the same for other content like music. You uploaded videos of you playing beatles songs on piano and got 15million hits you wouldn't get sued by Apple records (yet). Also if you have a record and do scratches and create a remix you won't get sued (yet) but your videos can now and lots have get taken down for playing a song in the background while someone dances....
For the most part recording footage of a game is completely different for each player the only thing in common is going to be the game itself. I can see how kind of how the game or game makers should get compensation...they pay people to professionally review and rate their games and some people have notoriety by playing these games for free.
I call youtube corporate tube, they used to have so much shyt, so many songs and shyt but then artists got signed and have official content from artist and such
For the most part recording footage of a game is completely different for each player the only thing in common is going to be the game itself. I can see how kind of how the game or game makers should get compensation...they pay people to professionally review and rate their games and some people have notoriety by playing these games for free.
I call youtube corporate tube, they used to have so much shyt, so many songs and shyt but then artists got signed and have official content from artist and such
how should the game developer get compensation for a derivative work that is legally created just because that derivative work used something they made to create it?
if you draw a picture should the company that made the paper and pencils get compensation beyond your purchase of their products because you can sell the resulting artwork and profit off it?
these guys are buying this software that's the developer's compensation.
the thing is if you uploaded a motion picture movie to Youtube and you just added your commentary to it it would be illegal whether or not you monetize it the movie companies own the movie and sell the broadcasting rights which they also own and you can't fair use the entire movie because the sole value of a movie is watching it. a video game is not a movie. its a piece of interactive software.
its absurd for a company like Nintendo to say yeah you an make these movies playing games and upload them but we don't want you making money off them and if you do we're taking that. if the videos are legal monetizing them through what amounts to an Youtube exploit is none of the game developer's concern. hell Microsoft and Sony just baked in game recording and streaming capabilities into their consoles. clearly they don't see a problem with recording your play through of a video game.
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a lot of publishers have been embracing this stuff too. I think Ubisoft flew JackFrags and some other youtubers to E3. and once there, he was given lots of access to BF4 as well. it seems any publisher with half a brain would realize these dudes are out there promoting their games
Audible101
Rookie
Yes Nintendo, Sega and Square are intentionally flagging and taking them down. A lot of the stuff im reading is that like fake companies that have no right to the content are flagging it and this youtube bot is taking them down no questions asked.
What is even more fukked up though is that 100% off the money goes to them.
What kind of backwards ass logic is this?? i use 20 seconds of your clip in my 10 minute video and you get 100% of it?? This is complete bullshyt.
in all honesty i don't watch lets plays. i do watch fighting game footage, call of duty footage and other multi-player games.
if i want to play a game i want to experience it for the first time on my playthrough not watching someone else play it. to me it would ruin the playing of the game to have watched someone else play it first. i think i speak for most gamers when i say nobody with any real interest in buying a game watches a whole playthrough of a game. the people sitting around watching 100 parts of gamer x's playthrough either already bought the game or never plan on buying it.
most of those lets-players don't get popular because they just play through games. they're usually semi-funny or at least interesting. and playthroughs of linear SP games aren't particularly popular. most of the more popular Let's Plays are gonna be for games like Minecraft or GTA5 Online
I'm sure people watching someone else play instead of buying the game is a concern for some of these companies. that's probably why the ps4 twitch app won't stream cutscenes and certain parts of games. but if people would rather watch a youtube video then play the actual games, I think that at least says something about the quality of the gameplay, or at least that some people just want to see the story. kinda like people that play through games on 'easy'
but that's all a strawman here, since reviews, interviews, and everything in between apparently has been getting flagged
Clapsteel O'Neal
put a red dot on your head like a hindu
Just watch angry joes videos on the issue.nice points
I'd be on your side of the issue usually, but I've watched a ton of these videos and this is some straight fucc sh1t.
It's all about money. I dont agree with any of it. There's a fine line between utilization and endorsement. It's all about money. You better believe people are looking for more ways to get money it'll never stop
T-K-G
Veteran
how would this affect people who stream competitive shyt? 
i need TeamSp00ky for my daily dose of Street Fighter 4 and MvC3 salt
i need TeamSp00ky for my daily dose of Street Fighter 4 and MvC3 salt