Yvette Carnell: Donald Trump Is Right. Black People ARE Poor. Stop Lying to Yourselves.

[blalienz]

it's just like the woman in the video said, many Black people are completely delusional or dishonest about our collective situation on this planet.

Thats why I always say shyt needs to get worse to wake these negros up

 

[BelowTheMasonDixon]

I would saying middle-poor Black people is most Black folks. Poor Black folks are just as much as minority as those's 1%ers and the 10% of truly successful Blacks.

According to the US Census bureau

46.3% of African Americans live in a single parent households(mother) and those households medium income were under 26k. Ain't no minority anything, most black people are poor.

 

[Woman of god]

There's plenty to complain about. Things can always improve. And in reality the majority of white people are in this same boat. Remember it's the 10% at the top in America that gets to eat. Relative to them we are all "poor" it's not something exclusive to black people. Look at where he's giving these speeches at. All the people in the fukking crowd are white and "poor"

But you'd never hear a politician get up and tell white "you are poor" "your schools suck" "etc", and you'd damn sure never hear white people go " you know what he's right"

That's the propaganda. They get up and tell the white folks "those ******s are worse off than you" and "any problems you do have is "the others" fault"

They get up and tell black people "you generally ain't shyt"

Everybody believes them, and they laugh their way to the bank.


What reference group should be used?

Why is the only comparison "white people"?

In terms of practicality, population averages used should be used to as the standard of comparison. if you look at the average income levels for the typical american, and then you specifically look at income levels for black Americans, you'll notice that 1 number is significantly lower. the discrepancy is even more drastic when you look into wealth as opposed to income.

in terms of moral reasons, using a less well off group for comparison is an obvious hindrance to progress. why should we care about housing conditions in low income communities and the projects when there are people outside sleeping in a box? Why should we care about kids receiving sub par education in American schools when there are children in third world war torn countries who can't even get an education? Surely you can see how this slippery slope would lead to inaction and prolonged suffering.

the poverty levels of blacks in previous years and people in different geographic locations is quite frankly irrelevant, becasue those people exist in an entirely different context. it would be like comparing apples to oranges.

 

[#1 pick]

According to the US Census bureau

46.3% of African Americans live in a single parent households(mother) and those households medium income was under 26k. Ain't no minority anything, most black people are poor.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

According to the US Census bureau

46.3% of African Americans live in a single parent households(mother) and those households medium income were under 26k. Ain't no minority anything, most black people are poor.

50% of ALL Americans make less than 30k a year.

So why is it again that black people are "poor" and white people aren't?

 

[NoChillJones]

I would saying middle-poor Black people is most Black folks. Poor Black folks are just as much as minority as those's 1%ers and the 10% of truly successful Blacks.

Basically.....

 

[MeachTheMonster]

In terms of practicality, population averages used should be used to as the standard of comparison. if you look at the average income levels for the typical american, and then you specifically look at income levels for black Americans, you'll notice that 1 number is significantly lower. the discrepancy is even more drastic when you look into wealth as opposed to income.

I already explained this. 10% of Americans hold 90% of the wealth. That 10% is overwhelmingly white. Remove that 10% and that number becomes a lot closer.

in terms of moral reasons, using a less well off group for comparison is an obvious hindrance to progress. why should we care about housing conditions in low income communities and the projects when there are people outside sleeping in a box? Why should we care about kids receiving sub par education in American schools when there are children in third world war torn countries who can't even get an education? Surely you can see how this slippery slope would lead to inaction and prolonged suffering.

I never said we shouldn't care. I said there were plenty of improvements needed.

the poverty levels of blacks in previous years and people in different geographic locations is quite frankly irrelevant, becasue those people exist in an entirely different context. it would be like comparing apples to oranges.

No it is very relevant. In fact comparing black people to white people in America is the apples to oranges comparison. Nothing about our history is the same.

It's like if we have a horse race, one gets a 400 year head start and wins the race, then we all sit back and wonder why the second horse was so far behind

 

[MeachTheMonster]

You missed her point. White people are poor, but their chances of climbing out of that barbell is significantly higher then ours, as far as blacks, will just remain poor, that's what she's saying.

Not really.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/01/05/us/harder-for-americans-to-rise-from-lower-rungs.html

Wealth inequality, and stagnation has been occurring for most of this country for years. Obviously black get it worse, but to paint this picture of black people in destitute poverty while white people are just fine is far from reality.

The top 30% don't represent the entire population of US whites, the averages consider all whites not just the ones with money.

If the top 30% hold 93% of the wealth and those people are overwhelmingly white, then it skews the averages.

The majority of the country is holding only 7% of the wealth, if black people are "poor" then so is the rest of the 70% at the bottom.

Trump follower are the representation of poor white america that use to be middle class, that's the reason for all the anger because they are now considered "poor" and blame immigrants, and political figures.

Exactly. And that's why he's standing up here telling them this stuff about black people.

"They are worse off than you"

 

[NoChillJones]

Athletes are in the 1%
Rapper are in the 4% most rapper will go bankrupt 3 to 4 years after fame dies.
Most athletes will lose 70% of their earning 6 years after retirement see the the (30 for 30) special called "broke".

if america has 50mill black you can't pick the top 100 to represent the whole as far as wealth, the average of the whole is the correct figure.

Why not? They pick the top 1 percent to represent over 120 million when a majority of whites are broke as fukk too. But blacks are different right?

Federal funding determines school zones and funding

Employers decide that they will hire white ex cons over qualified black college graduates

And despite 85% of black Americans are high school graduates....college admissions are sky rocketing...black athletes are seeing 8 figure pay days...and 56% of our race are living well above the poverty line. .

 

[BelowTheMasonDixon]

50% of ALL Americans make less than 30k a year.

So why is it again that black people are "poor" and white people aren't?

Because the average Black American has a per capita income of 18k. 10 grand more is another bracket in comparison.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

I honestly would say their middle class represents them. That's what the common white man cares about the most.

For us, we do not have a strong middle class. A strong middle class has a solid net-worth and they make depending in which part of the country around 60-120k a year combine. Black people middle class is weak as fukk. Even if the income is good, we don't own shyt and our investments tend to be weak. That's facts, not just cacism which is the norm for cacs.

We gonna stop using our 10% as our face of our community which is usually the Boule, professionals, etc because most of us ain't them.

Again 50% of ALL Americans make less than 30K a year.

AMERICA doesn't have a strong middle class

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Why not? They pick the top 1 percent to represent over 120 million when a majority of whites are broke as fukk too. But blacks are different right?

Federal funding determines school zones and funding

Employers decide that they will hire white ex cons over qualified black college graduates

And despite 85% of black Americans are high school graduates....college admissions are sky rocketing...black athletes are seeing 8 figure pay days...and 56% of our race are living well above the poverty line. .

That's what I been trying to say.

 

[NoChillJones]

Because the average Black American has a per capita income of 18k. 10 grand more is another bracket in comparison.

What he is saying is saying is struggle is not excatly synonymous with race breh. The blacks on the spectrum are pooer but it doesnt mean that blacks are exclusive in the experience of poverty. Which we are not.....by far..

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Because the average Black American has a per capita income of 18k. 10 grand more is another bracket in comparison.

Realistically if 18k is "poor" then so is 30K

 

[BelowTheMasonDixon]

Why not? They pick the top 1 percent to represent over 120 million when a majority of whites are broke as fukk too. But blacks are different right?

Federal funding determines school zones and funding

Employers decide that they will hire white ex cons over qualified black college graduates

And despite 85% of black Americans are high school graduates....college admissions are sky rocketing...black athletes are seeing 8 figure pay days...and 56% of our race are living well above the poverty line. .

You have 27% of African Americans living under the poverty line vs.13% of all other races combined in America.