Yvette Carnell vs Boyce Watkins. Yvette sets it on Boyce

[Dzali OG]

"The money we pay in taxes should be directed to address the needs of our communities" -Yvette



How is she incorrect? or misguided?

She's not incorrect...if this government and country was meant for black people or even treated us equally.

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

so they gave him a 100% ownership of his content for 100,000 shares. lil boycety in that 360 deal

That does seem a bit off

 

[marcuz]

now that i've listened to like 6 videos of their back and forth, i can sorta gather whats fueling the beef. like a lot of faux black business owners, they devalue their workers service and want to subcontract instead of actually employing you. yvette probably thought she was "building" with boyce, when he actually didn't need her. he probably felt like he was doing charity for her, while she felt like she was charity for him.

so boyce gets up here and tells everyone you're basically inferior for working for whites, and you should be out here doing what he's doing. meanwhile, people who have worked under him are basically still struggling to survive. i also assume 0% of those shares will go to his contributors who have helped build his site. furthermore, boyce shyt made no sense. no company is going to give you money to join their site, while you maintain 100% ownership. that whole "im doing it cus facebook is censoring me" is bullshyt. also, i liked how he tried to tapdance around the fact its non-black owned.


boyce videos trip me out man. all he does is gloat about his own achievements. don't tell me about how you went to school for 15 yrs, yet can't explain "buying power"

 

[David_TheMan]

White liberals are sick.
If Boyce and her disagree in the execution but at the end want to see the same results, why attack Boyce.
Why take time to attack another black man working for black empowerment in another mean, instead of just seperate, do your own thing and keep it moving.
this is some W.E.B Dubois attack Garvey and Booker T Washington shyt.

What I can't respect either, is how these black liberals base their whole stance on white acceptance of them. If you want to talk legal egalitarianism I'm down for that all day everyday, but expecting a government that hates you and enables and promotes systematic racism, to expect that government to threat you well, to want that government to teach your kids, its the definition of insanity for me. I don't understand it.

That said if you want to voice your disagreements do it behind closed doors, but you don't fued publiclly like this, for what? All it does is make the white power structure laugh and pick one party to support over the other

 

[marcuz]

White liberals are sick.
If Boyce and her disagree in the execution but at the end want to see the same results, why attack Boyce.
Why take time to attack another black man working for black empowerment in another mean, instead of just seperate, do your own thing and keep it moving.
this is some W.E.B Dubois attack Garvey and Booker T Washington shyt.

she explained why thoroughly, she feels like boyce is offering right wing, dangerous advice. which to a degree, he is.

 

[David_TheMan]

she explained why thoroughly, she feels like boyce is offering right wing, dangerous advice. which to a degree, he is.

He feels she is offering financially and economically disproven left wing collectivist advice and that is more dangerous. But you don't see him starting off attacking her. He just promotes what he believes in
This pathetic justification of turning on other blacks is the main issue I have with left wing black activists.
They can't accept people disagree and are capitalists or non-socialists. They are entirely too prone to demonization of other blacks, and too often they attack these blacks for the sole benefit of the white support they crave. imho

 

[marcuz]

fukk boyce

 

[marcuz]

boyce hid half my comments along with people cosigning me

 

[marcuz]

He feels she is offering financially and economically disproven left wing collectivist advice and that is more dangerous

how so don't start any strawman argument by saying "she wants to beg whites"



and there's nothing more dangerous than telling black people to pull themselves up by the bootstraps they don't even have. question, would you rather work for boyce, or work for your current employer?

 

[David_TheMan]

how so don't start any strawman argument by saying "she wants to beg whites"



and there's nothing more dangerous than telling black people to pull themselves up by the bootstraps they don't even have. question, would you rather work for boyce, or work for your current employer?

Appealing to the US government, the very government that has put black americans in the position they are now is what she advocates from my listening to her. That is begging to whites for acknowledgement if I ever seen it. That is her philosophy. That is dangerous and counter-productive.

There is nothing dangerous at all telling blacks, that we are fukked up situation with the white power structure, we have have to build our own seperate avenues and infrastructure and embrace capitalism to generate income and store wealth, with this wealth we can invest in our own businesses and provide atleast and alternative to the white only way that is present today. There is nothing wrong with that, and if you want to read some thoroughly researched books stating this try reading Race and Economics by Walter Williams another book that isn't directly focused on ecnoomics but does have plenty of research on black american economic achievement is Black Rednecks and White Liberals by Thomas Sowell. If you want this book let me know I'll post some links so you can download.

 

[marcuz]

Appealing to the US government, the very government that has put black americans in the position they are now is what she advocates from my listening to her. That is begging to whites for acknowledgement if I ever seen it. That is her philosophy. That is dangerous and counter-productive.

there needs to be government intervention. if blacks did everything perfect for centuries, we would STILL be an underclass. you guys keep talking about building but keep neglecting to admit we don't have any of the fundamental tools. boyce HIMSELF is telling you his business wasnt above water and he was underpaying his staff.

there is nothing wrong with admitting and acknowledging black people need real help. whites have tried to shame us into believing it's begging for handouts. when EVERYONE else has gotten theirs already.

 

[Apollo Creed]

there needs to be government intervention. if blacks did everything perfect for centuries, we would STILL be an underclass. you guys keep talking about building but keep neglecting to admit we don't have any of the fundamental tools. boyce HIMSELF is telling you his business wasnt above water and he was underpaying his staff.

there is nothing wrong with admitting and acknowledging black people need real help. whites have tried to shame us into believing it's begging for handouts. when EVERYONE else has gotten theirs already.

Blacks will never get help from the government. So now what are you going to do as a Black Man in America?

 

[KingSlime]

Appealing to the US government, the very government that has put black americans in the position they are now is what she advocates from my listening to her. That is begging to whites for acknowledgement if I ever seen it. That is her philosophy. That is dangerous and counter-pproductive

She ain't asking y'all to appeal for shyt. Shes asking of you to make demands and fight, possibly die if you have to to get what is due to you, your ancestors, and your community. But it's much easier to hope that maybe one day one of us might make it and we can live vicariously through their sucess and pretend like our entire community isn't hurting and in need of a solution that will elevate all of us. Fact is ALL black people in this country are struggling, we're ALL facing the same problems, and if it's not directly affecting us, it's someone in our circle that is facing them. Individual instances of economic success cannnot and has never led to community uplift. Only policy makers can do that. You can be stubborn about it all you want but that's just the reality. Even with an economic base without the administrative support there to back it up then they'll just take it away see: black wall street. You're either at the table or on the menu

 

[Apollo Creed]

She ain't asking y'all to appeal for shyt. Shes asking of you to make demands and fight, possibly die if you have to to get what is due to you, your ancestors, and your community. But it's much easier to hope that maybe one day one of us might make it and we can live vicariously through their sucess and pretend like our entire community isn't hurting and in need of a solution that will elevate all of us. Fact is ALL black people in this country are struggling, we're ALL facing the same problems, and if it's not directly affecting us, it's someone in our circle that is facing them. Individual instances of economic success cannnot and has never led to community uplift. Only policy makers can do that. You can be stubborn about it all you want but that's just the reality. Even with an economic base without the administrative support there to back it up then they'll just take it away see: black wall street. You're either at the table or on the menu

Can you timestamp a video where she states "we must fight"??

 

[marcuz]

Blacks will never get help from the government.

I do not want to hear any of this scared nikka shyt until blacks actually put forth a realistic effort for reparations. problem is they have you dudes too shook to even admit you, your parents, your grandparents are owed. in fact, even boyce himself said he's going to be apart of a conference for black reparations.