At least Ireland's out: Official 2014 Miami Dolphins Off-Season thread
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Taking my talents to South Beach
cant believe he was there 6 years, so many 2nd rounders wasted. so many dumb signings, good riddance
Ross will spend the loot, just have to do it wisely. first guy on a plane should be Browns S TJ Ward, id gladly give him 6 per. id give Jarius Byrd 8 but i dont think the Bills will let him go
Grimes is the first guy to worry about in-house, the market for a Pro Bowl corner is going to be outrageous. Dansby might be sour at the team but now that Ireland's gone maybe the new gm can convince him to come back on a short deal and dump Ellerbe
Ross will spend the loot, just have to do it wisely. first guy on a plane should be Browns S TJ Ward, id gladly give him 6 per. id give Jarius Byrd 8 but i dont think the Bills will let him go
Grimes is the first guy to worry about in-house, the market for a Pro Bowl corner is going to be outrageous. Dansby might be sour at the team but now that Ireland's gone maybe the new gm can convince him to come back on a short deal and dump Ellerbe
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Dolphins offensive coordinator candidates
January, 7, 2014
Jan 7
8:00
AM ET
By James Walker | ESPN.com
Mike Sherman is out as the Miami Dolphins’ offensive coordinator. But who is coming in?
The Dolphins will be going through an extensive interview process over the next several days. Here is an early list of candidates to keep an eye on:
1. Ben McAdoo, Green Bay Packers quarterbacks coach
Pros: McAdoo has been on Miami’s radar for quite some time. Dolphins head coach Joe Philbin, who worked in Green Bay, had interest in McAdoo joining his staff in Miami two years. But McAdoo stayed in Green Bay and was promoted internally from tight ends coach to quarterbacks coach. The Dolphins’ offensive coordinator position could lure McAdoo to Miami. McAdoo also comes from a West Coast offense in Green Bay, which is similar to Philbin’s philosophy. Keeping a West Coast scheme could make sense for continuity.
Cons: McAdoo has no experience as an offensive coordinator. He only has two seasons under his belt as a quarterbacks coach. The 2014 season could be a make-or-break year for Philbin and a lot of people in Miami. It would be risky putting the entire offense in the hands of a first-year coordinator.
2. Rob Chudzinski
Pros: Chudzinski, who was surprisingly fired by the Cleveland Browns after just one season as head coach, has done well as an offensive coordinator. Most think Chudzinski did a good job with the Carolina Panthers and could add punch to Miami’s offense. Chudzinski also has strong ties to South Florida. He coached various positions at the University of Miami from 1994-2003.
Cons: Chudzinski does not run a West Coast offense. That would require the Dolphins to learn an entirely new offensive scheme in an important year for both Philbin and second-year quarterback Ryan Tannehill.
3. Norv Turner
Pros: Turner was on the same staff in Cleveland under Chudzinski. He is a proven offensive coordinator and even had a stint at that position with the Dolphins from 2002-2003. Turner brings the experience needed to an otherwise inexperienced staff. Turner also had head-coach experience and could help Philbin along in a big third season.
Cons: Similar to Chudzinski, Turner does not run a West Coast offense. Turner runs a numbers system made famous by Don Coreyell. That would require Miami to learn a new offense in an important year. Turner also is under contract with Cleveland. Although that is expected to change, Miami may want to move fast to fill its position.
4. Hue Jackson, Cincinnati Bengals running backs coach
Pros: Jackson has been successful at every stop, with the exception of his stint as head coach of the Oakland Raiders. Jackson comes from a West Coast tree, which could factor in heavily. He’s an aggressive play caller who gets the most out of his players. Jackson also has a good track record with young quarterbacks, which is key for Tannehill.
Cons: Despite various positions, Jackson hasn’t been an offensive coordinator for more than one season at a time in the NFL. Jackson was an OC for three teams: Washington Redskins, Atlanta Falcons and Oakland Raiders. Each time, Jackson held the position for one year.
5. Gary Kubiak
Pros: Kubiak was very successful as a longtime coordinator with the Denver Broncos. His West Coast offense in Denver was among the top units for a long time. Eventually that got him a head-coaching job with the Houston Texans. He was fired after eight seasons.
Cons: Health could be an issue after Kubiak passed out last season during a November game against the Indianapolis Colts. He may take the year off to get healthier or hold out for better offers. Kubiak’s recent head-coaching experience also could provide a tense situation, considering Philbin is in a must-win year.
January, 7, 2014
Jan 7
8:00
AM ET
By James Walker | ESPN.com
Mike Sherman is out as the Miami Dolphins’ offensive coordinator. But who is coming in?
The Dolphins will be going through an extensive interview process over the next several days. Here is an early list of candidates to keep an eye on:
1. Ben McAdoo, Green Bay Packers quarterbacks coach
Pros: McAdoo has been on Miami’s radar for quite some time. Dolphins head coach Joe Philbin, who worked in Green Bay, had interest in McAdoo joining his staff in Miami two years. But McAdoo stayed in Green Bay and was promoted internally from tight ends coach to quarterbacks coach. The Dolphins’ offensive coordinator position could lure McAdoo to Miami. McAdoo also comes from a West Coast offense in Green Bay, which is similar to Philbin’s philosophy. Keeping a West Coast scheme could make sense for continuity.
Cons: McAdoo has no experience as an offensive coordinator. He only has two seasons under his belt as a quarterbacks coach. The 2014 season could be a make-or-break year for Philbin and a lot of people in Miami. It would be risky putting the entire offense in the hands of a first-year coordinator.
2. Rob Chudzinski
Pros: Chudzinski, who was surprisingly fired by the Cleveland Browns after just one season as head coach, has done well as an offensive coordinator. Most think Chudzinski did a good job with the Carolina Panthers and could add punch to Miami’s offense. Chudzinski also has strong ties to South Florida. He coached various positions at the University of Miami from 1994-2003.
Cons: Chudzinski does not run a West Coast offense. That would require the Dolphins to learn an entirely new offensive scheme in an important year for both Philbin and second-year quarterback Ryan Tannehill.
3. Norv Turner
Pros: Turner was on the same staff in Cleveland under Chudzinski. He is a proven offensive coordinator and even had a stint at that position with the Dolphins from 2002-2003. Turner brings the experience needed to an otherwise inexperienced staff. Turner also had head-coach experience and could help Philbin along in a big third season.
Cons: Similar to Chudzinski, Turner does not run a West Coast offense. Turner runs a numbers system made famous by Don Coreyell. That would require Miami to learn a new offense in an important year. Turner also is under contract with Cleveland. Although that is expected to change, Miami may want to move fast to fill its position.
4. Hue Jackson, Cincinnati Bengals running backs coach
Pros: Jackson has been successful at every stop, with the exception of his stint as head coach of the Oakland Raiders. Jackson comes from a West Coast tree, which could factor in heavily. He’s an aggressive play caller who gets the most out of his players. Jackson also has a good track record with young quarterbacks, which is key for Tannehill.
Cons: Despite various positions, Jackson hasn’t been an offensive coordinator for more than one season at a time in the NFL. Jackson was an OC for three teams: Washington Redskins, Atlanta Falcons and Oakland Raiders. Each time, Jackson held the position for one year.
5. Gary Kubiak
Pros: Kubiak was very successful as a longtime coordinator with the Denver Broncos. His West Coast offense in Denver was among the top units for a long time. Eventually that got him a head-coaching job with the Houston Texans. He was fired after eight seasons.
Cons: Health could be an issue after Kubiak passed out last season during a November game against the Indianapolis Colts. He may take the year off to get healthier or hold out for better offers. Kubiak’s recent head-coaching experience also could provide a tense situation, considering Philbin is in a must-win year.
You Ain't Got Da Answers Joe!!!
McCarthy calls the plays in GB, this would be like hiring Philbin Jr. Rodgers was already good when McAdoo got there so whats he really done? a promoted TE coach FOH
Hue Jackson or Chud would be fine, changing systems isnt a bad thing im sure a hybrid can be ran. Philbin should not be allowed to bring in another good ol boy this has to be the GM and Ross' call not his
Kubiak is easily the best candidate, but you'd think he takes a year off for health. if not he should be the front runner by miles
Hue Jackson or Chud would be fine, changing systems isnt a bad thing im sure a hybrid can be ran. Philbin should not be allowed to bring in another good ol boy this has to be the GM and Ross' call not his
Kubiak is easily the best candidate, but you'd think he takes a year off for health. if not he should be the front runner by miles
I disagree
He knows he's on a short leash so i doubt he'd put his own head on a platter by bringing one of his boys if said boy is incompetent.
Trust me when I've been in management positions and under pressure to produce results before and I tell my boys to eat a dikk with the loyalty crap and hired the most qualified person.
I would think Philbin would do the same since he may NOT get another chance at being Head Coach. If you're gonna handcuff a HC like that we might as well fire him.
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that's why he is most likely gonna get the job so Joe can control it all....i think that's what hes gonna pitch to ross
Kubiak!!
ABOUT IRELAND
Despite my passionate hatred for the man I must say this so as he leaves let me give him his props for one thing i thought he did well: TRADES
Outside of throwing away Brandon Marshall he pulled off some impressive trades during his tenure. When you think about what was proposed for Vontae and what he ended up getting. When you think of what it took for him to move up to 3rd in last year's draft.
I liked Marshall and was happy when we got him. But when Philbin came in I understood Marshall's problems (Dude was a major head case) would be too much of adistraction for a young team and a rookie coach.
The problem was what he would do with those assets (picks) once he got them. I think we have thrown away more 2nd round picks than i can remember. Dude also overpaid on some awful free agent signings and typically couldn't convince the better FAs to come here. The few that he did was by overpaying for them.I'll also give him props for not taking the bait on FA busts (Matt Flynn, tho i thought that was more Philbin)
As we move on from tat slime ball we should be thankful that our cap situation isn't a complete disaster though he left us with a couple of awful contracts (Ellerbe)
Despite my passionate hatred for the man I must say this so as he leaves let me give him his props for one thing i thought he did well: TRADES
Outside of throwing away Brandon Marshall he pulled off some impressive trades during his tenure. When you think about what was proposed for Vontae and what he ended up getting. When you think of what it took for him to move up to 3rd in last year's draft.
I liked Marshall and was happy when we got him. But when Philbin came in I understood Marshall's problems (Dude was a major head case) would be too much of adistraction for a young team and a rookie coach.
The problem was what he would do with those assets (picks) once he got them. I think we have thrown away more 2nd round picks than i can remember. Dude also overpaid on some awful free agent signings and typically couldn't convince the better FAs to come here. The few that he did was by overpaying for them.I'll also give him props for not taking the bait on FA busts (Matt Flynn, tho i thought that was more Philbin)
As we move on from tat slime ball we should be thankful that our cap situation isn't a complete disaster though he left us with a couple of awful contracts (Ellerbe)
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