Childish Gambino - This is America (Official Video)

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Wouldn't that immediately remove all subtlety and subtext, though?

Spelling things out is when you don't have the skis or ability to relay your issue through imagery, lyrics, metaphors, etc.
Not really. There's a subtle way to imply things. Unless i missed it there's no implication of that anywhere in the video.
 

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Unfortunately people gonna think the video is about Black people killing Black people...but it's okay...



The video isn't about Black people killing Black people...

The trickster plays out the killing of Travyon Martin by killing his father...

And the church killing by Dylan Roof...by killing the church choir...most importantly killing the church choir while the choir is singing about getting money...

The video is about the inevitability of America killing Black people...

While Black people think that getting money and acquiring status is gonna help them...but eventually America is gonna kill you too...

It has nothing to do with Black on Black violence...

I mean It's obviously up to interpretation, but the video literally entails black people killing black people.

I can respect your interpretation, but you kinda gotta reach to make it there. Talk of possession or mischief gods which was seemingly never even mentioned or alluded to in the video. Not one white person causing harm or manipulating the situation to cause the black people in the video to behave that way.

Your interpretation seemingly adds too much, to make it into what you want it be.

See, thats my issue with the video. I think you are right @CharlieManson but people are very simple minded these days. Combine that with long standing biases and most folks are going to assume at a glace its about Black on Black violence and right it off.

I'm sure Donald knows this and I'm sure there will be people who read through the lines. This video is for them, but we know how this looks.

It does bang though.

Not really. There's a subtle way to imply things. Unless i missed it there's no implication of that anywhere in the video.

We know the school and church shooting was done by white folk but I dunno where people's heads are these days.

I still have people telling me to believe in the government still so I dunno :yeshrug:

But the video is definitely getting folks to talk so who knows.

Somewhere Kanye is pissed it wasn't him :wow:
 

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I honestly don't think the video is that deep. I'm seeing people losing their sh*t & hopping all over Gambino's dikk about the video, but it's eh, whatever.

That’s just where CG is in his career now. The same thing is happening with the show Atlanta. Some of the episodes that aren’t that great have people writing essays talking about hidden meanings. :mjlol:

I’m a fan but at least I keep it a buck and say “I’m not sure I get this one” :hubie:

People are talking about Donald is who Kanye wishes he was but aren’t realizing that by propping up Donald they’re doing the same thing that led to them being disappointed with Kanye in the first place. We gotta just enjoy the work. The genius talk is cool but it becomes a slippery slope when the person disappoints you.
 

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That’s just where CG is in his career now. The same thing is happening with the show Atlanta. Some of the episodes that aren’t that great have people writing essays talking about hidden meanings. :mjlol:

I’m a fan but at least I keep it a buck and say “I’m not sure I get this one” :hubie:

People are talking about Donald is who Kanye wishes he was but aren’t realizing that by propping up Donald they’re doing the same thing that led to them being disappointed with Kanye in the first place. We gotta just enjoy the work. The genius talk is cool but it becomes a slippery slope when the person disappoints you.
thats where we at in general with music.

this whole genius talk and hidden meanings, etc is shyt thats happening with artist with some "substance" now, just recently it happened with Cole and that trash album he put out

video is dope tho
 

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The trickster plays out the killing of Travyon Martin by killing his father...

It’s been confirmed that’s NOT Trayvon’s father by @Matt504

See that’s what frustrates me about analysis of abstract works that doesn’t come from the creator. I have no idea if everything else you said was what Donald intended. You COULD be right but the leap people are making with the Trayvon’s dad shyt makes me believe everyone is just making shyt up. :mjlol:
 

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Nikkas writing PhD dissertations on something that is super straight forward

America is an illusion. A pop culture dominated dystopian nightmare. A dangerous place for black people. The youth distract themselves by imitating their favorite rappers in song, dance and the worship of material things. Even though the content of their music is perpetuating the violence...the youth blindly worship.

It’s disturbing imagery and meant to make you feel uncomfortable. But it’s whats actually going on out there. Glover just juxtaposed it against each other in one place.
 

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True, the impulse to take something like this video and write instant think-pieces & essays on it 17 minutes after watching it is pretty damn dumb. Let things soak in and spin it a few times before you're ready to declare you've divined the meaning behind every frame.

That said, you have his last concept album which was framed as having "the talk" with his son about race and sex with the backdrop of funk music b/c that was Donald's father's music, but the majority of the people missed all that.

So, especially with Donald, the deeper dives are warranted.

I can't fault anyone wanting to explore everything this video is and the people saying "it ain't that deep" have a point too, because the minimalist nature of the video makes things pretty straightforward. But that's the thing with good art; it invites discussion & debate.



Also, I'm glad I saw the video version first. I don't think I'd be as accepting of the dichotomy in the song between the celebration and the trap sections without seeing it blatantly spelled out in the video. Possibly why they debuted the video before he performed it live last night.
 

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It’s been confirmed that’s NOT Trayvon’s father by @Matt504

See that’s what frustrates me about analysis of abstract works that doesn’t come from the creator. I have no idea if everything else you said was what Donald intended. You COULD be right but the leap people are making with the Trayvon’s dad shyt makes me believe everyone is just making shyt up. :mjlol:

I am pretty sure that by next week...

Someone on YouTube like NerdWriter is gonna have it figured it out by going through 50 years of African American folklore and I'll probably be on the nose...:yeshrug:

There's entire YouTube channels dedicated to this type of shyt...I should go make one...:francis:




The man could be playing guitar in the video because he looks like Trayvon's dad...:yeshrug:

Or he could be in the video simply because he knows Donald or the director...

Never know...
 

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This song is trash without the video :dead:
I don't really give a shyt about music video symbolism :manny:
 
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