Fitzmagic or Fitztragic?The Best Chance To Win. The Official 2016 New York Jets Season Thread

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Fournette is gonna dominate

I'm not taking any RB top 5, especially one that might need surgery on his ankle. God bless Dallas, it worked out well for them but Elliott landed in literally the perfect position for him to do well. The Jets are probably bottom 5 teams in terms of talent on the 53 man roster.
 

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No team in their right mind is taking Watson top 5. He might not even go in the first round.
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This league dikk rides QB's now like no era before it. He might not be top 5, but he's definitely going in the first. Why the hell don't we just trade down and acquire more picks. And co-sign whoever said trading either Marsh or Deck. I like them both, but they were both going heavy for Fitz when truth is, they should be for whoever the coach decides. I won't go as far as to call them poison, but neither of them individually are worth the headache if they're going to be pitching fits when we let Fitzpatrick walk.
 

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This league dikk rides QB's now like no era before it. He might not be top 5, but he's definitely going in the first.

We went through this a few pages back. It really depends on combine and workouts, but a guy who is 6'2 200lbs(if that), doesn't play in a pro offense and hasn't shown accuracy throwing the ball down field is not getting picked high in the draft.
 

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Cmon man :mjlol:

I'm not saying you don't have other pressing needs but I don't think there is a QB worth pickin at 5. At least I'm not sure another Carson Wentz will be in this draft..
Fournette is gonna dominate

Rbs even great ones rarely "dominate" in today's NFL. Elliot walked into rb heaven behind that oline the Jets nor any other team has that luxury

Jets draft Fournette and he's gonna be in the same position Gurleys in
 

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We went through this a few pages back. It really depends on combine and workouts, but a guy who is 6'2 200lbs(if that), doesn't play in a pro offense and hasn't shown accuracy throwing the ball down field is not getting picked high in the draft.
I'm not saying I'd take him, but I think he'll go highly. I really want to trade down and stock picks though. An extra 2 or 3 could go a long way if we get lucky and hit pay dirt.
 

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Rbs even great ones rarely "dominate" in today's NFL. Elliot walked into rb heaven behind that oline the Jets nor any other team has that luxury

Jets draft Fournette and he's gonna be in the same position Gurleys in

You're wrong. They aren't that many special ones that's the problem.. Zeke can do everything and would be doin what he is doin on alot of teams..

And Fournette is better then Todd Gurley..
 

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Whatever..

Just please stop with the regurgitation of this tired old tired shyt.. Jets have other pressing needs but please stop with this

Let me educate you for a second since you don't understand. Who are the top 10 running backs in yards in 2016? I'll tell you.

Elliott, Gordon, McCoy, Forte, Murray, Johnson, Miller, Ajayi, Howard, Blount

Where were they drafted? 2 in the first round, 2 in the second, 2 in the third, 1 in the 4th, 2 in the 5th and Blount wasn't drafted at all.

YOU CAN FIND A GOOD RUNNING BACK ANYWHERE IN THE DRAFT YOU DON'T SPEND HIGH DRAFT PICKS ON THEM

How hard is this to understand?
 

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You're wrong. They aren't that many special ones that's the problem.. Zeke can do everything and would be doin what he is doin on alot of teams..

And Fournette is better then Todd Gurley..

Zeke would not be doing what he's doing on another teams. He's very good but the cowboy oline is the most dominating unit in the sport

You can get good serviceable backs in the later rounds. I'm not wasting a high pick on a rb
 

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Zeke would not be doing what he's doing on another teams. He's very good but the cowboy oline is the most dominating unit in the sport

You can get good serviceable backs in the later rounds. I'm not wasting a high pick on a rb

I'm not gonna go back and forth with you. The Jets have other more important needs then RB. I agree with you. But you're wrong about the RB position. You are under the impression that it's the offensive line that makes a special RB and that's just flat out wrong..

A special RB that can get yards on his own, can get skinny when needed, has lateral explosiveness and has the speed to take it the distance as well as the power to wear teams down in the 4th quarter is something that a "great offensive line" cannot replicate.
 
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Let me educate you for a second since you don't understand. Who are the top 10 running backs in yards in 2016? I'll tell you.

Elliott, Gordon, McCoy, Forte, Murray, Johnson, Miller, Ajayi, Howard, Blount

Where were they drafted? 2 in the first round, 2 in the second, 2 in the third, 1 in the 4th, 2 in the 5th and Blount wasn't drafted at all.

YOU CAN FIND A GOOD RUNNING BACK ANYWHERE IN THE DRAFT YOU DON'T SPEND HIGH DRAFT PICKS ON THEM

How hard is this to understand?
Everyone knows that :heh:

You can great players in all rounds so what are you saying :what:

You are just regurgitating the same shyt that these TV people been sayin for the last few years which has been lazy analysis you aren't droppin any science here

And if that RB is truly special you take him in the 1st round.
 

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Everyone knows that :heh:

You can great players in all rounds so what are you saying :what:

I was saying that you can fill RB adequately anywhere in the draft. Not so with other positions. There's a reason why Top 10 picks are usually QBs, guys that rush QBs, guys that protect QBs blindside. In addition there's a cap savings to be realized there. How much is the franchise number for a RB? How much is one for a QB? How much is one for a really good rush OLB? Which one would you rather pay for in the free market. I thought that was kinda obvious but I guess not.

You are just regurgitating the same shyt that these TV people been sayin for the last few years which has been lazy analysis you aren't droppin any science here

And if that RB is truly special you take him in the 1st round.

You clearly have some sort of hard on for Fournette which is fine, he'll be a nice RB for someone. It would be nice if he could keep himself healthy, he hasn't been doing that at the college level.

That being said, the Jets drafting Fournette would be like buying $10K rims for a 1997 Honda Accord with 250K miles on it and a bad alternator. There's no part of this team other than the DL that couldn't use improvement. What would Fournette do when he's seeing 8-9 man fronts because the QB is shyt? What would he do when he has no hole to run through because the OL is a complete fukking disaster?

The Jets needs are: QB, OT, CB, LB, G..... maybe after that you can get to RB. But the Jets are run by complete idiots so they might draft Fournette.
 

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Zeke would not be doing what he's doing on another teams. He's very good but the cowboy oline is the most dominating unit in the sport

You can get good serviceable backs in the later rounds. I'm not wasting a high pick on a rb
Agreed. Other than when he jumps over defenders and his decision making, there isn't anything unique about Zeke that I don't see other backs as capable of doing.
 

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Agreed. Other than when he jumps over defenders and his decision making, there isn't anything unique about Zeke that I don't see other backs as capable of doing.

Yep he walked into the perfect situation. We do not have the luxury of the Cowboys oline

If their isn't an olineman worth a high pick then go secondary

I was hearing about Peppers all year but I really don't think he has a true position in the pros
 
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