Ill admit I'm little jealous of IT guys

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What's wrong about what I said? Are you even the industry? What kind of work have you done? Companies worked for?

I actually do recruiting for my firm and we largely target universities for entry level jobs. As a matter of fact, that's all we target for entry level.
 

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What's wrong about what I said? Are you even the industry? What kind of work have you done? Companies worked for?

I actually do recruiting for my firm and we largely target universities for entry level jobs. As a matter of fact, that's all we target for entry level.
 

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shyt aint easy :francis: sat here on a saturday afternoon with several books laid out tryna take it to the next level.
Lord knows I aint in the mood to do this shyt right now :francis:

After some years though :blessed:

@Xtraz2

Not a single receipt, why you pretending?

:mjlol::mjlol::mjlol:
 

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Cats from the 90s and earlier didn't need a degree because their xp spoke for themselves. Degrees are really something HR departments use to screen out potential candidates in post-Recssion era America.

The vets at my past jobs told me in the 80s that IBM had paid training centers and they were desperate for trainees because no one knew about the computer's potential. They worked graveyard shift doing tape backups, but now they easily command 6 figures easy or run independent consultant firms.
 

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I've been in IT for the past 13 years. I've worked at some of the top consulting firms. Deloitte, IBM etc.

I can tell you if you are going to work for a top tier firm like that, you most likely need a degree.

But like also said, if you are just going to be a code monkey or a network guy, you can probably get in without a degree and make good money.

But it's harder to get on somewhere without a degree.
Negative. I work for a 110 billion dollar company and have no degree. I have friends in IT who work for major companies and have no degree. The only place where not having a degree MIGHT hurt you is higher up in management or at C-level.
 

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No they don't, most require a degree OR comparable experience...

I only have some college (didn't finish) and no certs and banking right now.

Experience > Everything

An employer wants a guy who can actually fix the problem when things are down over some guy with a bunch of paper certs with no real world experience.

Too many people in here giving "advice" that don't know what they are talking about.

Cosign. I'm still laughing my ass off cause @Xtraz2 posted jobs paying 90k with an A+ :mjlol:
 

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im not sure about "looking down on everybody else", but i decided IT was the way to go for me because im not about that stressful life. i prefer to sit on my ass on day and get paid for it. and if i really have the need to stretch my legs, i'll go for a damn walk.

but that's just me. ive heard some people say they cant stand staring at a computer screen all day and that they need to be up and about. and for those people, i give them the :scust: face. i dont understand it. back breaking labor aint the business.

Teach me the way sensei, fukk the hard labor life
 

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I've been in IT for the past 13 years. I've worked at some of the top consulting firms. Deloitte, IBM etc.

I can tell you if you are going to work for a top tier firm like that, you most likely need a degree.

But like also said, if you are just going to be a code monkey or a network guy, you can probably get in without a degree and make good money.

But it's harder to get on somewhere without a degree.

Deloitte and E&Y pays shyt IMO. I get hit up for security jobs from them and they're always 30-40k cheaper than similar roles from that come across my inbox.
 

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What's wrong about what I said? Are you even the industry? What kind of work have you done? Companies worked for?

I actually do recruiting for my firm and we largely target universities for entry level jobs. As a matter of fact, that's all we target for entry level.

I've worked for Home Depot and AT&T and no degree required. Been contacted by recruiters from Microsoft, Cisco, and Progressive Insurance for various roles. Once again, no degree required.

I have an email in my inbox right now for a job at T-Mobile. Pays $95/hr, no degree required.
 

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Negative. I work for a 110 billion dollar company and have no degree. I have friends in IT who work for major companies and have no degree. The only place where not having a degree MIGHT hurt you is higher up in management or at C-level.
Yup, but even once you get the gm/vp/c level a degree is irrelevant....


What you know is 100% relevant
 

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As I am in IT as a Sys Admin, jeezus it is stressful working for an enterprise-level entity. No Google bs, when a network is down, or the primary company app is on the fritz, they aren't calling the main help line, they are calling you directly, anytime. College, boot camp, etc. will not prepare you for IT unless you do IT, just like watching boxing doesn't allow you the ability to scrap with Cotto.

I don't think it's fun or easy trying to convince managers to spend 30k for a new generator for their unshielded data center which will cost them a minimum 100k a day in revenue once lightning hit kills their 15 year old router.

It isn't fun managing an environment where previous admins quit or were fired due to poor design or cheap business cacs skimping out on cost in care of quality.

It isn't fun when your Jr. Sys admins deploy an update that breaks critical bus apps that worked in the sandbox weeks before. Guess who has to fix it Sunday night?

It goes:
IT Director
Systems
Help Desk/Desktop
Call Center

Guess who is the glue? Sys admins, so we in IT are always putting out first, developing/patching, or maintaining systems....

Success breeds envy...Medical IT is the wave of our immediate future as private docs and hospitals are updating and installing technology centers to squeeze the max amount of money from customer, err patients ahem. Sorry to convert their paper records to EMR (electronic medical records). Can you IT haters figure out what could cause EMR to crash sporadically in one office, but not the other? Or why hundreds users at various patient center lose SQL DB connection, but still have network connection?

Breh, why are you still a sys admin? I'm not sure what you work on but you need to specialize. Way less work and way more pay. It's why I dove head first in to Security (IAM and authentication).

When I was a sys admin, I'd get pages all the time because servers would crash or backups weren't working correctly. Now I rarely get paged.
 

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What's wrong about what I said? Are you even the industry? What kind of work have you done? Companies worked for?

I actually do recruiting for my firm and we largely target universities for entry level jobs. As a matter of fact, that's all we target for entry level.
be a recruiter in IT and think you know anything about the industry brehs
 

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What's wrong about what I said? Are you even the industry? What kind of work have you done? Companies worked for?

I actually do recruiting for my firm and we largely target universities for entry level jobs. As a matter of fact, that's all we target for entry level.

I'm trying to get a job sir I can start monday
 
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