Is the NFL fixed?

[USSInsiders]

nikka do you realize those are the people who ultimately play the game? How could the game be fixed without their knowledge? A fix involves everyone, from coaches to players. If everyone is in the business of winning, how can their be a fix?

Think

yeah you're right, not like there's referees or anything right?

 

[Maschine_Man]

Bruh.... You're talking semantics at this point.. The NFL is entertainment based, yes. Its in the business of making money. I know people who have been apart of the league, from players to assistant coaches. There is not one part of that league that is fixed, its just about turning as much profit as possible, and all the parties involved are in the business of winning. Nothing more, nothing less

you seem naive, but its OK, I was naive once...until I saw the light and now I'm

to say there is not one part of the league that is fixed is complete BS. Go do some research. players, coaches and other personnel around the league have already admitted that there has been fixing involved.


its obviously not in every game. but the overall league is fixed.

teams who win, schedules, who is gonna win the super bowl.
just all types of shenanigans.
Coaches and owners are all in on it.


I don't believe its at the player level. its higher than that.the league runs things, and the owners run them. and the NFL just has so much control over everything.

gambling, TV, profit sharing.
they even have hired investigators to ensure that they can silence any leaks.

They also consider themselves a single entity..not as 32 individual franchises.

the reason the owners don't care so much about if their team wins or not is because they are ALL still profiting so much from the tv revenues that are the majority of the money that comes in to the league.

the NFL doesn't care if ppl come to the stadiums, just as long as you tune in on TV. they want those ppl to watch tv and boost ratings so the networks are happy.

they NEED to make sure the games(storylines) sell because the networks have already paid upfront.

 

[Maschine_Man]

nikka do you realize those are the people who ultimately play the game? How could the game be fixed without their knowledge? A fix involves everyone, from coaches to players. If everyone is in the business of winning, how can their be a fix?

Think

because a great team that has poor coaching or poor playcalling along with a few mis calls by the refs can change the outcome of the game REGARDLESS of the players on the field.

they are NOT in the business of winning(at least in the NFL) they are in the business of PLAYING

 

[Don Dada F Poppa]

yeah you're right, not like there's referees or anything right?

Seems like you didn't read my post, let me quote it again for you.

All professional sports are entertainment, hence the reason why they get paid multi millions to play.
NFL is far from fixed, though games can be decided by biased refs/stupid playcalls by coaches/bonehead plays by players

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So because I don't believe your brand of conspiracy, I'm naive, alright breh
Imma exit this thread now, no need to argue against someone whose probably never played a game in his life, nor knows anyone who has played it at the professional level.

Peace.

 

[RhodyRum]

Seriously though, why does it even matter? The NBA has been proven, beyond the shadow of a doubt, to be as rigged a league as there is, yet it's by far the most favored league on this forum.

 

[Maschine_Man]

the fix isn't in at the player level. its at the higher levels.

ever wonder why so many coaches are recycled and used in the league?
ever wonder how even shytty coaches can get hired in new positions even though they were previously unsuccessful other places??

because they are "company" men. and just do as they are told and play their role.
they know when that when the NFL comes calling and they are told to do some shyt that they will do it.

and the refs are even worse.

I don't even NEED to bring up all the questionable calls we've seen with them.

EVERYONE has plenty of their OWN examples to show that.

 

[Bomberman]

This is a good read as well. The guy that started this site investigated the NFL being fixed for decades. He found some interesting things if you dig deep enough.

http://thefixisin.net/nfl.html

http://thefixisin.net/book.html

Was just about to post that main website.

Refs being inconsistent is a dead giveaway. How many times have you seen a team score on a critical down only to see a minimal holding or PI penalty, yet when there's a blatant penalty the other way the whistles are pocketed. Only good teams can overcome the refs and sometimes that's not even enough.

 

[Deaf2twothirds]

the fix isn't in at the player level. its at the higher levels.

ever wonder why so many coaches are recycled and used in the league?
ever wonder how even shytty coaches can get hired in new positions even though they were previously unsuccessful other places??

because they are "company" men. and just do as they are told and play their role.
they know when that when the NFL comes calling and they are told to do some shyt that they will do it.

and the refs are even worse.

I don't even NEED to bring up all the questionable calls we've seen with them.

EVERYONE has plenty of their OWN examples to show that.

The truth is stranger than fiction! But most players don't know about the fix. Its mainly the coaches. Notice how all the coaches and elite athletes become decent actors after their season/careers.

 

[Maschine_Man]

Seriously though, why does it even matter? The NBA has been proven, beyond the shadow of a doubt, to be as rigged a league as there is, yet it's by far the most favored league on this forum.

because mosts dudes on here are only fans of PLAYERS and just dikkride whatever team is winning anyway

this doesn't affect them because at the end of the day they really don't have any allegiances to any one team

as long as kobe shoots and gets his touches, or Rose breaks ankles, or Bron gets a triple double they are happy.

 

[USSInsiders]

Seems like you didn't read my post, let me quote it again for you.





So because I don't believe your brand of conspiracy, I'm naive, alright breh
Imma exit this thread now, no need to argue against someone whose probably never played a game in his life, nor knows anyone who has played it at the professional level.

Peace.

I know you're gonna ignore this but think logically about you're saying instead of getting emotional.

What does you or me knowing or not anyone who plays professional sports have any bearing on what I'm saying? You're implying it takes players and coaches in order to fix a game. First off, there have been numerous games mostly in the 80s and 70s that have been fixed by players themselves because drug use and gambling was rampant in the NFL. Look it up, this dude who you would label a conspiracy theorist found sensitive information that even the FBI wanted to read up on.

The NFL has its own private security organization which snuffs out and silences any and all investigations, and they have a corps of loyal referees who would do whatever the commisioner/higher-ups tell them.

These players you know are nothing more than pawns. You really think the NFL, an organization that knowingly lets these dudes batter their brains into mush and become arthritic amnesiac cripples for the rest of their lives values them enough to trust with fixing games?

These dudes don't know what the fukk is going on. Do some reading, look into it if you care. WHo knows, maybe you'll find something interesting.

I'm not trying to play the " I'm smarter than you", or "you're dumb card", because in all honesty, it's not a matter of intelligence, but rather, it's a matter of knowledge. Unless you go out and seek this information, you're not going to be aware of it. In professional sports, there is a lot of money to be made, and from being a degenerate gambler who bets on NBA and NFL and college sports, I will let you know I have seen some fishy stuff.

If you don't gamble on sports a lot then you wouldn't understand. I'm not saying every game is fixed, either, but I am simply saying that the NFL has the ability to manipulate and outright predetermine games now, and it has actually done it before.

You don't even need players, all you need is a referee crew.

 

[USSInsiders]

Was just about to post that main website.

Refs being inconsistent is a dead giveaway. How many times have you seen a team score on a critical down only to see a minimal holding or PI penalty, yet when there's a blatant penalty the other way the whistles are pocketed. Only good teams can overcome the refs and sometimes that's not even enough.

I actually remember this play happening



If that Polamalu TD stood, the public would've covered.

That was a notoriously shady call.

 

[Bomberman]

I don't know how many times I've seen when a team is on a run, ESPN and other major sports news outlets start covering them. They get plenty of money thrown at them for the upcoming week from the less-knowledgeable betters trying to follow a hot trend. The refs are giving them plenty of trouble, however still win the game, but don't cover the spread. The general public doesn't care about money, but the story line. So since they won, there can still be coverage on said team throught he media outlets. The people who bet however ultimately end up losing due to the spread not covering. NFL gets to continue with the coverage to pique the general public's interest, and Vegas cashes out. Rinse and repeat.

It doesn't happen 100%, otherwise it'd be too easy to bet.​

 

[Bomberman]

I actually remember this play happening



If that Polamalu TD stood, the public would've covered.

That was a notoriously shady call.

I don't remember that, but that's exactly what I mean. Now matter what the players do, the refs still have the final say. If they could wipe that away, they can easily call a 50/50 penalty either way they want. Same with holding calls, there's holding on nearly every down, but when they call it or not is up to them.

 

[USSInsiders]

Yeah,

I don't remember that, but that's exactly what I mean. Now matter what the players do, the refs still have the final say.

It's funny, I rememberi t happening but this way, way before I ever started gambling on sports. When I did start betting on sports literally playing with pennies on centsports.com, even back then I began to realize how much bullshyt would go on whether it was the NBA or NFL.

Not every game is manipulated, but there are a few games where something absolutely crazy or shady happened. This was one of them.

 

[Bomberman]

Yeah,


It's funny, I rememberi t happening but this way, way before I ever started gambling on sports. When I did start betting on sports literally playing with pennies on centsports.com, even back then I began to realize how much bullshyt would go on whether it was the NBA or NFL.

Not every game is manipulated, but there are a few games where something absolutely crazy or shady happened. This was one of them.

Exactly, definitely not every game. But that's why I believe Vegas or any established gambling hotspot doesn't release where the money is going. If there's plenty of money lopsided on one team, there's a good chance (though not always) that game is on notice.