Kurt Angle Breaks Down Why Fans Hate Roman Reigns

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The injury didn't help either, fans got behind Dean when it came to Seth and HHH but we all knew they wanted Roman to be the guy.
 

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But let TSC tell it, it's all Daniel Bryan's fault. :martin:

Who the hell is blaming Bryan directly?

The Bryan situation comes from the fact that the fans were clamoring for a repeat of WM30 with Bryan on top, and it was around that time Vince started pushing Roman hard. Roman got caught between that storm and unlike the year before Vince wasn't going to change his WM plans again to please the fans. You can twist all you want but the rejection of Roman is directly tied to Bryan coming back around that time, even if Bryan himself could do little to change it (nor Roman for that matter).
 

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Whether he gets blamed directly or indirectly is irrelevant. Roman would have gotten booed with or without Bryan because of the Superman push that he wasn't ready for. And the fact that people are still bringing up Bryan two-three years later is just more proof that Roman isn't "the guy" because he should have long been able to get the crowd on his side by now.
 

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Who the hell is blaming Bryan directly?

The Bryan situation comes from the fact that the fans were clamoring for a repeat of WM30 with Bryan on top, and it was around that time Vince started pushing Roman hard. Roman got caught between that storm and unlike the year before Vince wasn't going to change his WM plans again to please the fans. You can twist all you want but the rejection of Roman is directly tied to Bryan coming back around that time, even if Bryan himself could do little to change it (nor Roman for that matter).


Yep. A lot of people here either fall heavy on one side of the the fence where it's either Bryan's fault or Roman just sucks and nobody was ever behind him.

The real answer is somewhere near the middle. It is not Bryan's fault at all but him coming back around when they were starting Roman's push didn't help Roman at all. As for Roman, he got too much of a push way too fast and it wound up blowing up in their (and more importantly his) face. He was the most over dude in the Shield for a minute and had the crowd behind him in the Rumble the year before he won. They just blew their load too fast and completely exposed him.
 
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He just doesnt entertain me. Outside of his good matches which lets face it, Styles and Bryan would have had great matches with anyone, im bored when he's out there. So no Kurt, continuing to force him down our throats wont work unless you change his character a bit. Kurt is wrong in this case.

Roman as-is is completely damaged goods. It's gonna take a complete character refresh and a bunch of time to avoid the Cena treatment (with none of the accolades) for the rest of his career.
 

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The key to both these cases is that they were heels doing all of this. The obvious push/quick rise to the top naturally draws resentment. Roman went from the cool big moves guy in the Shield to the obvious Chosen One in a matter of months.

The only time that worked was with Batista, and that came off the strength of Triple H’s powerful “Anybody But Him” heat, AND jumping on the wagon as soon as it got hot.

Man, SO many things are wrong with Roman's push, it's hard to think of what was right.
The reason Batista got so hot in less than a 4 month time period from Summerslam 2004 (no reaction) to December 2004 is because Blandy failed BIG TIME as face and was shytted on by Rumble 05 in California.
 

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Yep. A lot of people here either fall heavy on one side of the the fence where it's either Bryan's fault or Roman just sucks and nobody was ever behind him.

The real answer is somewhere near the middle. It is not Bryan's fault at all but him coming back around when they were starting Roman's push didn't help Roman at all. As for Roman, he got too much of a push way too fast and it would up blowing up in their (and more importantly his) face. He was the most over dude in the Shield for a minute and had the crowd behind him in the Rumble the year before he won. They just blew their load too fast and completely exposed him.
All thus doesn't matter. Roman just wasn't over enough for fans to respect him over Bryan. simple as that. Not hard to understand. DX was ultra over in 98 but once they went against Austin and Rock the next year? Fans turned on them ULTRA HARD.
 

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These are obvious facts. Look at Sheamus at that time. Dude went from feuding with Goldust and Shelton Benjamin to beating Cena in the most pussified way possible. Fans pooped on him until he got in somebody's doghouse.
Not sure I understand your comparison. Sheamus was pushed to the top pretty quick and didn't get anywhere near the heat roman gets.
 

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It's not romans fault it's Vince, he should have chilled out after the first Roman push didn't work but it's like he refuses to accept reality. Roman is not that strong for his size he's bad in the mic his move set is decent put his finisher is weak and his gimmick is lame. He's Kevin Nash with no charisma
 

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He got no reaction at all.
True but overtime sheamus grew on people and he fit into the main event I never remember anyone saying sheamus didn't belong in his position when he was champ. He had a good look and good move set more importantly he was a believable character, I know a lot of people dont fukk with sheamus but he's a solid worker that never looks out of place in the title picture. Roman on the other hand...
 

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True but overtime sheamus grew on people and he fit into the main event I never remember anyone saying sheamus didn't belong in his position when he was champ. He had a good look and good move set more importantly he was a believable character, I know a lot of people dont fukk with sheamus but he's a solid worker that never looks out of place in the title picture. Roman on the other hand...
No, no, no..Sheamus never fit in. He was over pushed then..over pushed today. He went from nothing going to a title in 4 months. From Goldust to the top title? Then they gave him like two more title Reigns to no reaction, no good feuds. The top image one can think of Sheamus with the WWE title was when he was running scared from the legitimately over Wade Barrett and Nexus in that infamous gif.
 

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He got no reaction at all.

This. When Cena tossed himself into the table, giving Sheamus the win, the crowd basically said "........ok.....". Even months afterward when he feuded with HHH, it took Sheamus attacking HHH backstage, 17 Brogue Kicks, and a steel pipe to garner a halfway reaction to get Sheamus over. It wasn't until Sheamus started from scratch that people began to actually care about him.
 

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It's not romans fault it's Vince, he should have chilled out after the first Roman push didn't work but it's like he refuses to accept reality. Roman is not that strong for his size he's bad in the mic his move set is decent put his finisher is weak and his gimmick is lame. He's Kevin Nash with no charisma

Vince should've fallen back after Roman got over again winning the title back from Sheamus on Raw. They immediately fukked him over again with that announcement that he had to defend the title in the Royal Rumble, meaning he was either going to win the Rumble again, or chase the title at WM to become a three time champ and fans weren't having either one of them. Seriously, look at the crowd reaction here:



How the fukk do you go from accomplishing this to fukking it all up again within two weeks time? :mindblown:
 
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