LaVar Ball Wants To Charge $200 For Lonzo Big Baller Brand Shoe

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It's not about counting a 19 year old's money. It's about common sense even if you have guided your child all his life, you have to let him/her become an adult and start to make decisions that's best for him or her it doesn't mean you stop being a parent. People aren't counting Lonzo's money especially if people want him to get the best deal possible as an UNPROVEN PROFESSIONAL basketball player.

Secondly, he brings the "co-branding" example of Jordan. Jordan had already a pedigree of being the best professional basketball player to become a partner with Nike. Lonzo or Lavar don't come with any leverage to the table intangible or tangible you even alluded "IF he balls out." Right now he ain't balling out because he is not in the league yet.

Does Lavar own a manufacturing plant? Does he have any distribution channel that allows him a market that Nike or the other shoe company aren't penetrating or aware of, does he have some type of patented technology for his son's shoe that will differentiate it from the other shoes in the market? Most importantly, Lonzo does not even have a BRAND (something that takes building) because he hasn't played PROFESSIONAL BASKETBALL YET.

A partnership requires that each one of the party brings something different to the table that each party doesn't have. What the hell does Lavar Ball bring to the table in May of 2017 that justifies a partnership with a corporation with Billions in revenues?

It's ALL about counting a 19 year old's money. The deals will still be available to Lonzo if this doesn't work out, provided he isn't trash. If he turns out to be trash, then we needn't cry for him.
 

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It's ALL about counting a 19 year old's money. The deals will still be available to Lonzo if this doesn't work out, provided he isn't trash. If he turns out to be trash, then we needn't cry for him.
If he's trash you should cry for him because his dad would have cost him his only shot at a shoe deal. That money wont be there again if he's a bust
 

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Those opportunities will always be there if he balls out.

He's guided this child since birth, and naturally must be a huge part of where this kid is at today.

But now people think his father is a problem. That's bugged out....

lol at him "intervening with his sons career", he's ALWAYS been there.

People who aren't really into sports are running in here to count a 19 year old's money, fascinating.

0% of the people on here would let their father turn down $10 million of free money instead to invest in HIS dream. I told my dad last week I would have fired him in a heartbeat if he did that
 

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It's ALL about counting a 19 year old's money. The deals will still be available to Lonzo if this doesn't work out, provided he isn't trash. If he turns out to be trash, then we needn't cry for him.

I disagree with your cost and benefit analysis. Right now the best thing he could have done is negotiated a deal with one of the major shoe companies before even playing a game. it makes the most sense because he has nothing to lose even if he turns out to be a bust at least he had that shoe deal money (i.e Sebastian Telfair). If he turns out to be a great player he can always renegotiate since the last time I checked these pre-draft endorsement deals were not lifetime binding. If you perform then you can always go back to the table.

If his father is burning bridges today and doesn't get what he wants prior to Lonzo stepping on the court, then God forbids his son turns out to be a bust then he loses all the way.

it's not that difficult of an analysis to make.

Again my question what does Lavar bring to the table that Nike does not have in May 2017 that warrants a partnership?
 
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What are you saying?:dahell:

No one cares about his father "guiding" him since birth. We're talking about business and qualifications and you're talking about love.

You said he's always been in his sons career. Correct me if I'm wrong but you get paid for a career. Lonzo didn't get paid in high school or college so he had no career. That starts now with endorsements and the NBA draft. He's been a good dad training his son and taking him to games but this is now the corporate world.

Lavar Ball is a personal trainer. That's what his profession is listed as. Answer these questions:

1. Would you hire a personal trainer to guide your business career as a pro athlete?
2. Would you hire a personal trainer to design your sneakers?

Nike, Adidas, and Under Armour won't break bread with you. You've left millions of dollars on the table. Chinese companies are unlikely to sign a rookie. You've failed to move any BBB merch thus far. UA had an informal dinner with Lavar and his wife and decided they wouldn't pursue any further contact. The man fukked up the money over dinner:mindblown:. He's burned bridges with pro athletes, shytted on Lonzo's UCLA teammates (who will share the court with LiAngelo next season), feuded with high school/AAU coaches, and now the big 3 apparel brands. Does this not point to his father being a problem?

Give us one example of a solid business move Lavar Ball has made to put money in Lonzo's pocket.

We're not counting Lonzo's money because there's nothing to count thanks to Lavar.

His father was a 6'6 professional athlete. He began training his sons to play basketball when Lonzo was like 9. But once a company offers Lonzo a check, then all of a sudden all of his success is independent of Lavar. :what:
That's an absolutely ridiculous way to look at things, regardless of how successful you think BBB will turn out to be. He arguably owes his father EVERYTHING. It's not like he went to med school and got a PHD or something, he's doing EXACTLY what his father bred him to do.
Again if this doesn't work out, he can still get a deal with a big athletic wear company, provided he isn't trash.
 

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I disagree with your cost and benefit analysis. Right now the best thing he could have done is negotiated a deal with one of the major shoe companies before even playing a game. it makes the most sense because he has nothing to lose even if he turns out to be a bust at least he had that shoe deal money (i.e Sebastian Telfair). If he turns out to be a great player he can always renegotiate since the last time I checked these pre-draft endorsement deals were not lifetime binding. If you perform then you can always go back to the table.

If his father is burning bridges today and doesn't get what he wants prior to stepping on the court, then God forbids his son turns out to be a bust then he loses all the way.

it's not that difficult of an analysis to make.

Kris Dunn signed a 4 year 1.5m per year deal after last years draft. Lonzo is a bigger star than him so that's an easy 8-10 million total for the duration of his rookie deal. If Lonzo is a star like Lavar thinks he will be, Nike will put that dude in commercials with Lebron. 'Ownership' and making deals with Li Ning & Anta will never do that for him.
 

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His father was a 6'6 professional athlete. He began training his sons to play basketball when Lonzo was like 9. But once a company offers Lonzo a check, then all of a sudden all of his success is independent of Lavar. :what:
That's an absolutely ridiculous way to look at things, regardless of how successful you think BBB will turn out to be. He arguably owes his father EVERYTHING. It's not like he went to med school and got a PHD or something, he's doing EXACTLY what his father bred him to do.
Again if this doesn't work out, he can still get a deal with a big athletic wear company, provided he isn't trash.

Lonzo is an adult. Lavar's job is finished.
 

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Kris Dunn signed a 4 year 1.5m per year deal after last years draft. Lonzo is a bigger star than him so that's an easy 8-10 million total for the duration of his rookie deal. If Lonzo is a star like Lavar thinks he will be, Nike will put that dude in commercials with Lebron. 'Ownership' and making deals with Li Ning & Anta will never do that for him.

Exactly. That goes to my initial point. Performance = Brand. If you don't have brand then you cannot leverage that against the larger companies you want to have a joint venture with. Lonzo has not stepped into a professional basketball court yet, so he nor his father have nothing to leverage other than POTENTIAL or the one year he had at UCLA so why not take the money right now and let your performance speak for itself and then leverage that performance to get whatever you initially set out to do.
 

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Damn Life so short:wow:
Fucc it, I got my babies on the court:obama:
Fucc it, got a budget for the apparel tho:youngsabo:
Fucc it, I'm on ESPN for the money:sas1:
I'm in the BBB1, paid 200 for it:mjgrin:
My little homie wearing Nike got me paranoid:lupe:
I'm getting money that's in any business category :DKKhaled:
Triple B I got G's out in California:blessed:




"Tell Lonzo I said fucc it, I'm tearing holes in my budget ":heh:

Repped:wow:
 
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