LaVar Ball Wants To Charge $200 For Lonzo Big Baller Brand Shoe

[Hacksaw Jim Thuggin]

Never head stories of Richard Williams demanding partnerships from shoe/athletic apparel companies. Richard Williams was just super confident about his children's athletic skills and abilities which totally understandable and proved him right in the long term.

Lavar Ball has gone beyond being confident about his children's athletic abilities and making it known to the entire world. He is asking for a partnership deal with a billion dollar corporations without any leverage. His son may turn out to be a great professional basketball player in the future but he is not even a PROFESSIONAL basketball player in May 2017 so exactly what warrants a partnership deal?

you must be young....

richard williams was said to be a distraction to his childrens potential back in the day...the cat held up signs at wimbledon breh....

whats wrong with asking for partnership deals with shoe companies? kids SIGN with these shoe companies with no leverage all the time based solely off potential....you know what the difference is now? a black man wants ownership....thats the problem...its cool as long as nike cuts a check and is done with it....and reaps ALL the profits...but now its a problem?

im shocked at some of the cats in here that are letting their dislike of ball blind them to whats really going on here....

 

[Supa]

His father was a 6'6 professional athlete.

Who he play for?

It's ALL about counting a 19 year old's money. The deals will still be available to Lonzo if this doesn't work out, provided he isn't trash. If he turns out to be trash, then we needn't cry for him.

THE MONEY IS THERE NOW. Nike, Adidas, and UA are not waiting for him, they've moved on.

Lavar is counting on Lonzo being a Laker and being an all time great; two things he has no control over. What if he ends up in a small market, suffers a serious injury, and never develops? With no apparel deal he won't have those guaranteed dollars to buffer the NBA contract.

Ben Simmons got $20 million guaranteed with a potential extra 20 million with incentives. He hasn't even played a game yet due to injury. If he never makes it onto the court he's straight. Lonzo won't get 20 but why would you turn down 5 to go with BBB which has no sales and may operate at a loss it ever even gets off the ground?

This is bad business.

Sign with a Big 3 brand, get your money, and use your fame to branch out later.

 

[Hov]

you must be young....

richard williams was said to be a distraction to his childrens potential back in the day...the cat held up signs at wimbledon breh....

whats wrong with asking for partnership deals with shoe companies? kids SIGN with these shoe companies with no leverage all the time based solely off potential....you know what the difference is now? a black man wants ownership....thats the problem...its cool as long as nike cuts a check and is done with it....and reaps ALL the profits...but now its a problem?

im shocked at some of the cats in here that are letting their dislike of ball blind them to whats really going on here....

You keep saying black man that and black man this but it seems like numerous black men are saying otherwise, both on and offline. Also, I feel like the only people supporting this haven't done any level of real business in his or her life.

Please tell me, since it's Nike against the "black man", do you think if was Larry Ball, the white man, and it was BBB, same logo same brand same sales, and he was going to shoe brands demanding partnership, they would give it to him because he is white?

I mean it makes no sense no matter what color of your skin. The only way you can demand equity or partnership is if you bring something to the table. Please address this because people keep skipping over it. What is he bringing to the table? Jordan brought being the greatest ever and billions of dollars and global fans on par with Michael Jackson and Elvis.

Please I beg you tell me why would anyone give money to LB to do his own thing? What does that help or make money for the people giving him money???

 

[Frangala]

you must be young....

richard williams was said to be a distraction to his childrens potential back in the day...the cat held up signs at wimbledon breh....

whats wrong with asking for partnership deals with shoe companies? kids SIGN with these shoe companies with no leverage all the time based solely off potential....you know what the difference is now? a black man wants ownership....thats the problem...its cool as long as nike cuts a check and is done with it....and reaps ALL the profits...but now its a problem?

im shocked at some of the cats in here that are letting their dislike of ball blind them to whats really going on here....

It has nothing to do with dislike. If these kids could get the maximum amount of benefit from these shoe companies including ownership/partnership. I am all for it but these companies did not become multi-billion dollar businesses by letting themselves bear all the risks and they are not doing that right now.

Now so knowing that Adidas or Nike are not going to give ownership as a 19-year old unproven rookie, then it's up to you to be strategic and find alternative ways to get what you want. You can lose the battle but still win the war. Taking an initial rookie deal MULTI-MILLION dollar deal can allow you startup capital to do your own thing in the future and is not somehow a barrier to doing your own thing in the future. Why don't we have that type of mentality and always take criticism as being a "hater".

 

[Ohene]

Lonzo's Rookie Contract

 

[Hov]

you must be young....

richard williams was said to be a distraction to his childrens potential back in the day...the cat held up signs at wimbledon breh....

whats wrong with asking for partnership deals with shoe companies? kids SIGN with these shoe companies with no leverage all the time based solely off potential....you know what the difference is now? a black man wants ownership....thats the problem...its cool as long as nike cuts a check and is done with it....and reaps ALL the profits...but now its a problem?

im shocked at some of the cats in here that are letting their dislike of ball blind them to whats really going on here....

And one more thing - how is it a problem that Nike reaps the profits when they are the damn company?

You do know they reap the profits because they are a 40 year old company that has global sales, thousands of employees, hundreds of manufacturing locations across the planet earth,distribution networks across the planet, their own in house advertising agency and the top shoe designers in the world. The fukk are they in business for, to not make money lol?

 

[tremonthustler1]

you must be young....

richard williams was said to be a distraction to his childrens potential back in the day...the cat held up signs at wimbledon breh....

whats wrong with asking for partnership deals with shoe companies? kids SIGN with these shoe companies with no leverage all the time based solely off potential....you know what the difference is now? a black man wants ownership....thats the problem...its cool as long as nike cuts a check and is done with it....and reaps ALL the profits...but now its a problem?

im shocked at some of the cats in here that are letting their dislike of ball blind them to whats really going on here....

Lavar has as much of a right or demand to ask for a partnership from a shoe company as you or I do.

 

[I.V.]

richard williams was said to be a distraction to his childrens potential back in the day...the cat held up signs at wimbledon breh....

I can tell you are young, because the Richard Williams / Lavar Ball comparison doesn't match up.

 

[Floyd Pinkerton]

200 out the gate

I'll keep rocking my $15 Starburys, thanks very much

 

[DropTopDoc]

His father was a 6'6 professional athlete. He began training his sons to play basketball when Lonzo was like 9. But once a company offers Lonzo a check, then all of a sudden all of his success is independent of Lavar.
That's an absolutely ridiculous way to look at things, regardless of how successful you think BBB will turn out to be. He arguably owes his father EVERYTHING. It's not like he went to med school and got a PHD or something, he's doing EXACTLY what his father bred him to do.
Again if this doesn't work out, he can still get a deal with a big athletic wear company, provided he isn't trash.

If you looking for a pay day after you raise your kid, you in it for the wrong reasons, and there in lies the issue with lavar ball, this dude is obsessed with fulfilling a dream he never achieved and cement a place in NBA/business annuls, he has the bright idea that he has leverage and he has none, he's a shytty business man, and lacks vision. if he was smart you should set up a deal to get more money on the back end, with more creative freedom and marketing freedom, then branch out after the first contract like Patrick Ewing

 

[DropTopDoc]

200 dollars for the air slauson swap meet specials

 

[dh86]

you must be young....

richard williams was said to be a distraction to his childrens potential back in the day...the cat held up signs at wimbledon breh....

whats wrong with asking for partnership deals with shoe companies? kids SIGN with these shoe companies with no leverage all the time based solely off potential....you know what the difference is now? a black man wants ownership....thats the problem...its cool as long as nike cuts a check and is done with it....and reaps ALL the profits...but now its a problem?

im shocked at some of the cats in here that are letting their dislike of ball blind them to whats really going on here....

Haven't heard Richard in the news in at least 15 years have u?

 

[dh86]

you must be young....

richard williams was said to be a distraction to his childrens potential back in the day...the cat held up signs at wimbledon breh....

whats wrong with asking for partnership deals with shoe companies? kids SIGN with these shoe companies with no leverage all the time based solely off potential....you know what the difference is now? a black man wants ownership....thats the problem...its cool as long as nike cuts a check and is done with it....and reaps ALL the profits...but now its a problem?

im shocked at some of the cats in here that are letting their dislike of ball blind them to whats really going on here....

Somebody else may end up doing what Lavar is doing in the future correctly and cash in spectacularly. Making Lonzo a martyr and a story for someone else to learn from. Basically Spencer Haywood. Spencer Haywood name won't be mentioned or brought up in reverence until he dies.

 

[philmonroe]

You keep saying black man that and black man this but it seems like numerous black men are saying otherwise, both on and offline. Also, I feel like the only people supporting this haven't done any level of real business in his or her life.

Please tell me, since it's Nike against the "black man", do you think if was Larry Ball, the white man, and it was BBB, same logo same brand same sales, and he was going to shoe brands demanding partnership, they would give it to him because he is white?

I mean it makes no sense no matter what color of your skin. The only way you can demand equity or partnership is if you bring something to the table. Please address this because people keep skipping over it. What is he bringing to the table? Jordan brought being the greatest ever and billions of dollars and global fans on par with Michael Jackson and Elvis.

Please I beg you tell me why would anyone give money to LB to do his own thing? What does that help or make money for the people giving him money???

Yeah this is something a lot of people do with regards to emotional arguments. They trying to sto the ______ insert race, gender, religion, etc there. When folks come with that I feel they have no actual basis for what they kicking just running off emotional fumes. When have we saw a white person do this and they get the deal in sneakers? If we have no instances of that happening in the same manner Ball trying to do it there is no point imo or even mentioning race unless you going for some heartstrings stuff. If you are against my argument you don't like ______. That's weak and on top of that these cats saying all this stuff if they were running these companies wouldn't do it themselves but mad at these brands for doing the same thing?

 

[bzb]

you must be young....

richard williams was said to be a distraction to his childrens potential back in the day...the cat held up signs at wimbledon breh....

whats wrong with asking for partnership deals with shoe companies? kids SIGN with these shoe companies with no leverage all the time based solely off potential....you know what the difference is now? a black man wants ownership....thats the problem...its cool as long as nike cuts a check and is done with it....and reaps ALL the profits...but now its a problem?

im shocked at some of the cats in here that are letting their dislike of ball blind them to whats really going on here....

holup...what richard did is significantly different than what dude is trying to do with bbb. richard was calling out the tennis establishment for not giving his daughters fair treatment, fair opportunities, and fair recognition. he was basically saying "give venus and serena a fair shot and they'll prove they can play with the best".

richard was not trying to get in the way of marketing, branding, and negotiating endorsements.

there's nothing wrong with wanting partnership and ownership. however anyone who knows anything about business is that companies are risk averse. giving an unproven quantity (lonzo and his pops) a significant branding deal is a risk not worth taking right now.

also lets be fair, yes the big brands reap most of the revenues, but they also make these athletes richer than they ever would have become under other avenues. and the athletes get grow their own name recognition using the companies marketing machine. just look at what it has helped athletes to do:
- mj is majority owner of a franchise employing more black people in executive positions than any other franchise in history.
- lebron and other athletes have reinvested their fortunes in their hometown communities.
- more and more athletes have the capital to become philanthropists and take strong positions that positively impact the black community.

i personally have no problem with the ball family's vision. the only issue i have is the father feeling entitled to something he hasn't earned. and he's jeopardizing garaunteed capital (endorsement cash) for a start up business venture. it's entirely to egotistical and not based in reality.