LeBron James' MVP case grows each game he misses

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the kid said:
If you cant see me outlining who the shooters are on his squad and how players molded their games to suit Brons, I dont know what to tell you.





Of course you wouldnt get other lead ball handlers to play with Lebron. But thats the point. If your offense is built on Bron spoon feeding everyone, then when he is not on the floor for extended time, the team will suffer. Obviously a great GM puts pieces around his stars to maximize their potential. The point in my posts is that the players that maximize Brons potential are not also players who are built to stand on their own and have success.
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They're not standing on their own, they're standing with Kyrie and Love. Two previous first option all-stars, one who was ROY and one who was MIP with 3 All Stars For each of them.
 
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Joe Sixpack said:
I can't remember an NBA player that has the burden LeBron carries :what:

I don't think there has ever been a player that is required to do everything in order for his team to win..

Unbelievable
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It's tough to recall. His first two playoff runs in Miami he regularly played what felt like the entire second half while being the top option on both ends of the floor. Most teams don't even consider that.

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:dwillhuh:

Lebron won a ring with a crippled Chris Bosh, an injured playmaker in Dwayne Wade, and Udonis Haslem/Joel Anthony getting started minutes in the hardest series of the playoffs.

How is that surrounding him with shooters?
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1st ring. Allen wasn't on the team. Bosh was injured against the Pacers and missed most of the hardest series while also only shooting less than one three a game during the playoffs. James Jones was rarely on the floor in the playoffs (Had less minutes than Ronny Turiaf).

So your idea of Lebron winning with shooters is since these are the highest MPG users during that first playoff ring.

Mario Chalmers
Dwayne Wade (Dealing with injuries)
Battier
Lebron
Haslem/Joel Anthony

That's what you call being surrounded by shooters to need success?
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:childplease: you should know better than to bring facts and data that your research can prove to a lebron debate. It's all about what the narrative says and the eye test :troll:. Even the footage that is catalogued is probably just a bunch of propaganda designed to deceive you :skip:
 
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Most/all star players need shooters in any case. :manny:

Duncan, Hakeem, Shaq, Jordan, Kobe, Dirk...
That second three-peat bulls team had the personnel to put out a small-ball ish lineup before small-ball was even dubbed a thing: Kerr, Jordan, Pippen, Kukoc, Rodman.

And we already know the contributions Paxson, Cassel, Kenny, Mario, Horry, Fisher, Shaw, Ginobli, Patty Mills, Danny Green etc have played in championship runs. You need role players that can hit outside shots.
 
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Primetime said:
Most/all star players need shooters in any case. :manny:

Duncan, Hakeem, Shaq, Jordan, Kobe, Dirk...
That second three-peat bulls team had the personnel to put out a small-ball ish lineup before small-ball was even dubbed a thing: Kerr, Jordan, Pippen, Kukoc, Rodman.

And we already know the contributions Paxson, Cassel, Kenny, Mario, Horry, Fisher, Shaw, Ginobli, Patty Mills, Danny Green etc have played in championship runs. You need role players that can hit outside shots.
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:heh:THIS nikkaS WHOLE TEAM IS SHOOTERS
OUTSIDE OF TRISTIAN THOMPSON

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Primetime said:
Most/all star players need shooters in any case. :manny:

Duncan, Hakeem, Shaq, Jordan, Kobe, Dirk...
That second three-peat bulls team had the personnel to put out a small-ball ish lineup before small-ball was even dubbed a thing: Kerr, Jordan, Pippen, Kukoc, Rodman.

And we already know the contributions Paxson, Cassel, Kenny, Mario, Horry, Fisher, Shaw, Ginobli, Patty Mills, Danny Green etc have played in championship runs. You need role players that can hit outside shots.
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Thank you and also that first three peat bulls teams had Paxson, Hodges, Tucker and BJ Armstrong.

If you have a dominant big man or even a dominate wing you almost always have knock down shooters so to space out the defense and prevent the double team and collapsing of the defense.

Even when there were true post up big men in the league the PF was a knock down shooter from 15 to 18 feet. This was to prevent the double team on the center.

AC Green, Otis Thorpe, Oakley and Lambeer (he could also shoot threes) were all knock down shooters up to 18 feet for their center on the kick out.

Even a kat like Horace grant was known for that 18 foot jumper to space the floor in the triangle and give pip and MJ room to drive.
 
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Noah said:
From a .750 team to a .180 team without, Jesus Christ :why:

But yeah, they shouldn't center their offense around their best player :troll:
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People can't process logic and talk LeBron at he same time usually. I once heard I think eye cue say the Heat fukked up by jettisoning a ball movement offense for isolation heavy offense after losing the 2011 finals :snoop:
 
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