Let’s talk about Gentrification

[WaveCapsByOscorp™]

What so bad about having some social codes. The old way just didn’t work man.The United States will never tackle poverty. Poverty is a world wide plague. Name one big county who had the poverty shyt under control.

I understand your points and thanks for the long reply because I’m really trying to understand..

Name a solution then? If you on the bottom totem poll in society you gne be shytted on hard facts. America dnt care about the hood. Cube in BoysNthehood let us know

social codes are often derived from racist ideas...

 

[Creflo ½ Dollar]

They don't build new housing projects outside of places like New York.

Gentrification leads to the private ownership of public housing, shifting from projects to section 8, which shifts the responsibility for the upkeep of the property from the government to a person/contractor.

I have an idea though that you are starting to allude to inherent inferiority talking points though... because "why invest money into something people aint ready for" is Reagan/small govt/republicac talking points...

I'm calling this. You are white. In your OP you said that race was a factor but not really. Yeah @BmoreGorilla this dude exposing himself

Naw fam I ain’t white. I’m just a black man asking questions.

They are building new housing projects where I’m from and they are getting people section 8 to move in regular neighborhoods.

I’m just being honest. If you es an investor why spruce up the hood for people who ain’t taking care of what they got. Black landlords think the same way. It’s all about the plus and minuses.

How is race a factor? Yea it probably plays apart but it’s not strictly a racial thing. They ain’t moving nikkas out because they nikkas. They doing it because they see dollar signs and make their city better.

 

[Creflo ½ Dollar]

Y’all asking the same white folks who “holding you down” to build up your community

The same white folks to look out for the poor brown and poor black folks when thinking about developing the urban sections of the city


That’s bullshyt logic.

Ain’t nobody coming to save the poor folks in America better yet ain’t nobody coming to save the poor folks in the world. Either adapt or die.

fukk what y’all talking about nikka I like safe neighborhoods

 

[NoMoreWhiteWoman2020]

Naw fam I ain’t white. I’m just a black man asking questions.

They are building new housing projects where I’m from and they are getting people section 8 to move in regular neighborhoods.

I’m just being honest. If you es an investor why spruce up the hood for people who ain’t taking care of what they got. Black landlords think the same way. It’s all about the plus and minuses.

How is race a factor? Yea it probably plays apart but it’s not strictly a racial thing. They ain’t moving nikkas out because they nikkas. They doing it because they see dollar signs and make their city better.

Where you from

 

[Babymama Magnet]

We’re experiencing a lot of gentrification over here in London with many of the working class areas being gentrified for the middle class to come settle in.

I understand why it happens and that area gets improved massively but can’t help have that bitter feeling in my stomach when I see the culture in that area being ripped apart and replaced with culture less hipsters.

I also hate seeing black people being run out but that’s on us. We need to be smarter and aware as to how gentrification works and how to use it to benefit us.

 

[intruder]

So is gentrification really that bad?

Yea poor people get forced out of their homes and whatnot and it seems to have some racial undertones but not really. It really just got to do with the haves and havenots.

I know y’all tired of seeing old broken down crime filled hoods in major cities. It seem to do more good than harm

It's bad in a way but I dont see why the black people that can afford to dont take advantage of it

I was recently told that i'm a gentrifier myself even tho i'm black. I bought a house in an old black neighborhood that was being gentrified quickly. I saw an opportunity to be in an upcoming area that I have no ties to and I jumped on it because I knew the property value would rise quickly.
And it has.
As of last October I received a lowball offer 160% of what I paid for the house just 2 years ago. That's 60% increase in value in 2 years. I'm sure it'll double if i just wait another year and a half to 3.
So yeah i've been labeled a gentrifier and i say "So fukking what?" I dont see why i need "ties" to a neighborhood/community to purchase property in it. Isn't that how the world works? You have something to sell. I have the money to buy it and we exchange.

Are the people who RENT there gonna eventually be pushed out due to rise in cost? Sure. But i'm sorry the term "OWNER" has to have its advantages if not why would you want the responsibility of owning anything and having to maintain it?

 

[WaveCapsByOscorp™]

Y’all asking the same white folks who “holding you down” to build up your community

The same white folks to look out for the poor brown and poor black folks when thinking about developing the urban sections of the city


That’s bullshyt logic.

Ain’t nobody coming to save the poor folks in America better yet ain’t nobody coming to save the poor folks in the world. Either adapt or die.

fukk what y’all talking about nikka I like safe neighborhoods

no one is asking. you asked why gentrification is bad and it's because its a situation derived from exploitative laws and practices. the idea of taking/exploiting inherently unhealthy. even worse if you lack empathy and concern for your environment around you. its a matter of balance, which none is struck. that's why you always have strife in these situations.

there are thousands of homebuilding projects worldwide that do the same thing, in essence, these gentrification projects do except the difference between the is the amount and origin of the capital for said project, and the actual mission and vision of said organizations committing their resources to the project (which plays THE biggest part)

really it's american values that poison the power of such an economically revitalizing movement like gentrification.

values that no one realizes they place over other things.

 

[Creflo ½ Dollar]

Where you from

I’m from a medium size town I’m Ga. We actually going thru it now with the colleges in my town spreading out and developers trying to tap into that. Honestly it made my town a lot better. It moved some poor people out and the ones who owned homes came up and sold some previously unsellable property. It seem like soon as the gentrification started more business started rolling in.

They actually plan to demolish one housing project and build more student houses in its spot. The plan is to build a new one more on the outskirts.

 

[WaveCapsByOscorp™]

It's bad in a way but I dont see why the black people that can afford to dont take advantage of it

I was recently told that i'm a gentrifier myself even tho i'm black. I bought a house in an old black neighborhood that was being gentrified quickly. I saw an opportunity to be in an upcoming area that I have no ties to and I jumped on it because I knew the property value would rise quickly.
And it has.
As of last October I received a lowball offer 160% of what I paid for the house just 2 years ago. That's 60% increase in value in 2 years. I'm sure it'll double if i just wait another year and a half to 3.

So yeah i've been labeled a gentrifier and i say "So fukking what?" I dotn see why i need "ties" to a neighborhood/community to purchase property in it. Isn't that how the world works? You have something to sell. I have the money to buy it and we exchange.
Are the people who RENT there gonna eventually be pushed out due to rise in cost? Sure.
But i'm sorry the term "OWNER" has to have its advantages if not why would you want the responsibility of owning anything and having to maintain it?

you're not a gentrifier because of that. the term gentrification is originally related to "gentry" class or land owning, wealthy whites. it's specifically something that whites are participants of, not blacks. you buying a house in that neighborhood is a smart purchase, not gentrification...

 

[Creflo ½ Dollar]

It's bad in a way but I dont see why the black people that can afford to dont take advantage of it

I was recently told that i'm a gentrifier myself even tho i'm black. I bought a house in an old black neighborhood that was being gentrified quickly. I saw an opportunity to be in an upcoming area that I have no ties to and I jumped on it because I knew the property value would rise quickly.
And it has.
As of last October I received a lowball offer 160% of what I paid for the house just 2 years ago. That's 60% increase in value in 2 years. I'm sure it'll double if i just wait another year and a half to 3.

So yeah i've been labeled a gentrifier and i say "So fukking what?" I dotn see why i need "ties" to a neighborhood/community to purchase property in it. Isn't that how the world works? You have something to sell. I have the money to buy it and we exchange.
Are the people who RENT there gonna eventually be pushed out due to rise in cost? Sure.
But i'm sorry the term "OWNER" has to have its advantages if not why would you want the responsibility of owning anything and having to maintain it?

Exactly I had an Nigerian American Uber driver telling me he did the same thing in Atlanta. You can see it coming so why not invest back into the community yourself. This is America and thats how you play the game. You can’t win the game if you dnt play.

 

[AuntAnniesPretzels]

Begging white daddy to come save us is and also always will be pathetic to me, call me cac or c00n, tag BMoreGorilla idc

What can be given can easily be taken away

Beg your enemies to save you brehs

I’ll get it on my own out the mud and wouldn’t have it any other way

 

[Creflo ½ Dollar]

you're not a gentrifier because of that. the term gentrification is originally related to "gentry" class or land owning, wealthy whites. it's specifically something that whites are participants of, not blacks. you buying a house in that neighborhood is a smart purchase, not gentrification...

That dnt make sense tho. He is essentially doing the same thing as the white folks( no offense to intruderV3) so just cause he black it ain’t an issue. So is the white man not making a smart purchase I’m pretty sure he is going to sell to the highest bidder no matter the color and he should without a doubt.

I’m just trying to understand what u mean by saying only whites can participate?

 

[intruder]

you're not a gentrifier because of that. the term gentrification is originally related to "gentry" class or land owning, wealthy whites. it's specifically something that whites are participants of, not blacks. you buying a house in that neighborhood is a smart purchase, not gentrification...

Exactly I had an Nigerian American Uber driver telling me he did the same thing in Atlanta. You can see it coming so why not invest back into the community yourself. This is America and thats how you play the game. You can’t win the game if you dnt play.

Basically they are saying that people like me with higher income moving into the neighborhood is what's forcing the poor or renters that have lived there all their lives out of the area because our higher income is raising the median income in the area and thus i am "gentrifying".

Again, renting has its advantages and owning has its advantages. I've been a renter too. Just because I decided to move on an opportunity that was presented to me doesnt mean i'm evil

 

[UncleTomFord15]

The fact that just about any race can come to your community no matter where its located in the country and within less than a decade take it over both economically and socially says far more about you than it does about them.

 

[WaveCapsByOscorp™]

That dnt make sense tho. He is essentially doing the same thing as the white folks( no offense to intruderV3) so just cause he black it ain’t an issue. So is the white man not making a smart purchase I’m pretty sure he is going to sell to the highest bidder no matter the color and he should without a doubt.

I’m just trying to understand what u mean by saying only whites can participate?

did you read ANYTHING i posted BEFORE commenting on a comment directed to someone else? it's funny how you'll ignore responding to some things but when you see something you don't like, you feel the need to engage. and considering i outlined a few factors. it makes me think you just made this thread to refute people instead of learn...