OVO40 is a genuine person. Kanye has the most ghostcreators in music HISTORY!!! - James Fauntleroy

[Terrance Curtis Beasley]

hahahahahahha tick tick tick tick

 

[JustCKing]

word as a producer

but i never heard nobody hyping ye for his bars

that's what the focus is on

never heard nas or any other elite pen give ye shine for his bars

that's not his lane

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And again, you're mistaken:

Common listed his Top 5 DOA rappers:

Year: 2012

Picks: Kanye, Jay Z, Wayne, Common, Nas

"Ye killed on that Throne album."

Fat Joe also listed Kanye as Top 5 in the same article

Top 5 DOA: Your Favorite Rappers Share Their Favorite Rapper

 

[Monoblock]

If it aint a new Cocaine 80s album I don't care. Everyone know Ye uses ghost everything when making these albums and fashion designs. Their names are right in the credits of his music. Funny all these artist coming out to Drake defense but no one mentioning the blackface pics. All of em are just trying to get in good with one another and dont want to fukk up the money. These cats nowadays believe in nothing.

 

[Pimpdaddy]

Kanye actual put a REFERENCE BAR by NICKI MINAJ at the in end of "Violent Crimes" just to show he doesn't give a fukk.

 

[TheNig]

So where's the record at? Or are we putting out another statement?

 

[Ziggiy]

That no wonder the kids see ghost tweet is vulgar though

Yea that would actually make a decent diss

 

[JustCKing]

Lets dead this Kanye thing.

Kanye gets respect as an artist. He’s proven himself a great artist. He has at least 3 classic albums himself. And we KNEW from day 1 that he had co-writers. But we know he’s an authentic creator.

His work on the Roc we know we did himself. That’s what initially built his name. On Fade to Black there’s footage of him giving Jay the concept to Encore and the opening lyrics to Jay. And obviously the beats. We know he’s a creator. And he’s used those talents to create classic albums. In the studio we know he’s involved in beats and rhymes to some extent. And he’s never hidden it’s a collaborative thing. Even in the way he’s got co-producers he’s in control. He gets Havoc to do the drums. Chance will write something.

Drake. Doesn’t produce. His only job is to write and perform. If others are writing then what is he doing? What’s different from the way some of his songs are created an Rihanna? Other people do the beats and rhymes. He just performing them. He kept the writing very low-key. We never heard from Hush. We never heard from QM before the exposal. We’ve heard about the Kanye writing process from Cyhi, Nicki and Rhymefest.


That how Drake moves when he’s ashamed of something. He’s done the same with the kid. He’s not going to get Kanye West levels of respect as an artist. Sorry.

You're not being consistent. Kanye gets respect as a rapper. Yes, he's proven he's a great artist, but you know full well that isn't even the argument. The argument that people are trying to make is that Drake is out here claiming he's a GOAT level rapper, but knowingly had ghostwriters. If that is the case, then Kanye is just as guilty. THAT is the point:

Kanye West Claims His Second Verse In "New Slaves" Is "The Best Rap Verse Of All Time"

^^^ Breh legit said that this verse is the best rap verse ever and ya'll in here caping talking about Kanye never put himself in that position.

Making beats was Kanye's hustle to become what he is now: a rapper.

 

[RTF]

You're not being consistent. Kanye gets respect as a rapper. Yes, he's proven he's a great artist, but you know full well that isn't even the argument. The argument that people are trying to make is that Drake is out here claiming he's a GOAT level rapper, but knowingly had ghostwriters. If that is the case, then Kanye is just as guilty. THAT is the point:

Kanye West Claims His Second Verse In "New Slaves" Is "The Best Rap Verse Of All Time"

^^^ Breh legit said that this verse is the best rap verse ever and ya'll in here caping talking about Kanye never put himself in that position.

Making beats was Kanye's hustle to become what he is now: a rapper.

Kanye can say whatever he likes. I never said Kanye never put himself in that position, I’m saying we don’t.

As an MC he’s not seen in that light either. Even his biggest fans don’t think he’s some type of top tier MC. Nobody that knows anything about him, thinks of him as just a rapper. We don’t even think he’s that nice as a rapper anyway.

If Kanye was only billed as a writer, we would consider him a fraud.

If Drake had Kanyes production discography an continued to be involved in production. And we knew he had writers from day one. He wouldn’t be in this boat.

Some talk about Drake as REALLY getting busy with the pen. Joe Budden did on his podcast. That the esteem he can be held in. The ghostwriting thing damaged that rep.


Nobody bigged up Kanyes pen like that. Which is part of why it took him 3 classic albums in a row to fully get his props.

 

[JustCKing]

Kanye can say whatever he likes. I never said Kanye never put himself in that position, I’m saying we don’t.

As an MC he’s not seen in that light either. Even his biggest fans don’t think he’s some type of top tier MC. Nobody that knows anything about him, thinks of him as just a rapper. We don’t even think he’s that nice as a rapper anyway.

If Kanye was only billed as a writer, we would consider him a fraud.

If Drake had Kanyes production discography an continued to be involved in production. And we knew he had writers from day one. He wouldn’t be in this boat.

Some talk about Drake as REALLY getting busy with the pen. Joe Budden did on his podcast. That the esteem he can be held in. The ghostwriting thing damaged that rep.


Nobody bigged up Kanyes pen like that. Which is part of why it took him 3 classic albums in a row to fully get his props.

More copping pleas.

There's proof in this thread of greats like Common putting Kanye in his top 5. You have Fat Joe who has worked with nearly every great to some capacity putting Kanye in a Top 5. And here we are moving goal posts and putting spins on proof because posters refuse to admit Kanye is not only as fraudulent as Drake, but is being given a pass to do so. So when people question why artists like Drake can skate by even though he doesn't write his own rhymes, we look no further than Kanye. He's a guy that's being propped as a great amongst greats (even in the MC sense) in spite of having rappers and we got posters co-signing it because they refuse to be consistent because

1) They dislike Drake

2) They love Kanye

Kanye >>>> Drake, but a spade is a spade.

And to the point of "we don't put Kanye in GOAT conversation", that's a double standard. Many didn't look at Drake in that light either, but because Drake claimed he was the greatest and he had other respected MC's and producers seeing him in that light, it's a crime because he has writers.

 

[010101]

And again, you're mistaken:

Common listed his Top 5 DOA rappers:

Year: 2012

Picks: Kanye, Jay Z, Wayne, Common, Nas

"Ye killed on that Throne album."

Fat Joe also listed Kanye as Top 5 in the same article

Top 5 DOA: Your Favorite Rappers Share Their Favorite Rapper

that's a stretch bro

you can take a vote if you want

ye ain't come in the door on no mc tip

& anybody who ever put his name in that convo was reaching just to be different

we knew from the door ye works by collaboration

chill out

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[JustCKing]

that's a stretch bro

you can take a vote if you want

ye ain't come in the door on no mc tip

& anybody who ever put his name in that convo was reaching just to be different

we knew from the door ye works by collaboration

chill out

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How is that a stretch? These artists listed their Top 5's. This isn't just something I pulled out of thin air.

Kanye came in as a producer (his Trojan Horse into the game) and ended up being a rapper. Dude was featuring on records he didn't produce. Jay put Kanye on "The Bounce" (produced by Timbaland) and let him rhyme. That was the beginning of Kanye being a rapper over being a producer. That isn't a stretch. You got Kanye pretty much flexing on the end of College Dropout ("Last Call") about how he was proving himself as a rapper. He reached the point where people take him serious enough to where respected MC's like Common have him in a Top 5 and saying he killed Watch The Throne (which he shares the same space as an MC who is widely considered the GOAT) and ya'll in here copping more pleas than Premo when Drake got outed for having writers.

 

[Tetris v2.0]

Not even trying to be disrespectful cause the dude is talented and penned records for others, but no one is checking for a James Fauntleroy anything, that's why dude left the game. So who cares really

 

[010101]

How is that a stretch? These artists listed their Top 5's. This isn't just something I pulled out of thin air.

Kanye came in as a producer (his Trojan Horse into the game) and ended up being a rapper. Dude was featuring on records he didn't produce. Jay put Kanye on "The Bounce" (produced by Timbaland) and let him rhyme. That was the beginning of Kanye being a rapper over being a producer. That isn't a stretch. You got Kanye pretty much flexing on the end of College Dropout ("Last Call") about how he was proving himself as a rapper. He reached the point where people take him serious enough to where respected MC's like Common have him in a Top 5 and saying he killed Watch The Throne (which he shares the same space as an MC who is widely considered the GOAT) and ya'll in here copping more pleas than Premo when Drake got outed for having writers.

you got two artist that on any given day may give you a different top5

at what point was ye considered an elite mc¿

that's not how 99.9% of folk perceive ye

you can't take that lil .1% that hype him like that's regular

you can keep your opinion that's cool

blessings

*

 

[Yaddam Yussein]

Ye was a ghost producer in the 90s....it's a wash.

Ye rolled in with his own beats for the blueprints, come home with me, beanies projects etc.

Kanye was always a rapper first though...he used his beats to get in the door. Plus making his own beats save money too.

Yea I know he got his come up ghost producing for D Dot.

That’s why I was surprised to hear people accuse him of having one himself, it wouldn’t make sense.

 

[julesocean]

Why are people mad at James? He's written for Beyonce, JT, and Drake for that matter.

Well he's been associated with Kanye too, and probably wrote for him also. So essentially he's shytting on one of the people who helped him to make money and have a career in this business, and that's not honorable.