OVO40 is a genuine person. Kanye has the most ghostcreators in music HISTORY!!! - James Fauntleroy

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Kanye is looked at more as a musical genius than an elite mc.

More goal post moving. The fact that he is viewed as an elite MC at all in spite of the writing speaks volumes, which is where the Drake backlash comes from: a so called MC with writers bragging about being elite.
 

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There is a weird energy out here...

Like people dont want to see straight dark skinned Black men win.

They dont want to see us win a war.

People come out the woodworks talking about you going to far and please stop n all this p*ssy shyt.

But wont say a damn thing about legalized slavery in Amerikkka.

fukk James Fauntleroy scary ass. :camby:
 

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More goal post moving. The fact that he is viewed as an elite MC at all in spite of the writing speaks volumes, which is where the Drake backlash comes from: a so called MC with writers bragging about being elite.

If drake took the Kanye route most would not have issue with him. But drake does Kanye shyt but wants to get Jay-Z respect.
 

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You know judaism is a matrilineal ethno-religion and people can be from Lebanon, the Maghreb, Palestine, Egypt, Europe, Ethiopia, and even Jordan itself....but still be Jewish?
Who gives a fux about any of that. He's an alleged Isitreally\Jacobite....so what.

And There is no such religion as Judaism. thats a tribal identity.
 

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If drake took the Kanye route most would not have issue with him. But drake does Kanye shyt but wants to get Jay-Z respect.

There were people that wanted Drake out of Hip Hop before he was outed. And Kanye also wants the respect of a Jay Z or a Nas, while doing something that Dre and others did for years.
 

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lol nah boy

Search for his 2002 MTV interview on youYouT.

It comes out his own mouth that he is a rapper that wants to bring something different to the table,lol. Says beats put him on...but he's a rapper.

Kanye will tell you he helped Jay with hooks and lines too.
 
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Search for his 2002 MTV interview on youYouT.

It comes out his own mouth that he is a rapper that wants to bring something different to the table,lol. Says beats put him on...but he's a rapper.

Kanye will tell you he helped Jay with hooks and lines too.
he's not and the general perception wasn't. Funny thing is, he has an "off the top" freestyle and everything drake doesn't...he is fully capable but switched gears long ago. Dude brought an MPC on stage...no "rappers" do that.
 

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There were people that wanted Drake out of Hip Hop before he was outed. And Kanye also wants the respect of a Jay Z or a Nas, while doing something that Dre and others did for years.


It's Kanye concepts even on his publicly written ish from others. Even Dre sticks to his concepts/persona.

Drake takes others concepts/visions. Drake wasn't laying out his vision like a boss....he running with the ghost styles too often these days. What happened to Drake's authentic voice? Real name no gimmicks, right?
 

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James Fauntleroy is one of the most sought after writers in the game and co-wrote or wrote a lion's share of some of the biggest albums and songs this decade.
Right he's dope, but he's talking all kinds of reckless and no one asked him... Clearly struck a nerve with dude. You think he'll still be working big time after this?
 

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It's Kanye concepts even on his publicly written ish from others. Even Dre sticks to his concepts/persona.

Drake takes others concepts/visions. Drake wasn't laying out his vision like a boss....he running with the ghost styles too often these days. What happened to Drake's authentic voice? Real name no gimmicks, right?

Kanye has used concepts and visions from others as well. One of the most notable situations is the "Diamonds From Sierra Leone" remix and even the video. The concept/vision came from Q Tip. Much of 808's is Kid Cudi,
 

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Breh, there's quotes from Kanye saying "Top 5 MC's you gotta rewind me", one of his verses is "the greatest rap verse of all time".

How does being a producer excuse him saying he's a Top 5 MC or him saying he's the greatest rap verse of all time?

The point is, if your gripe is that a rapper who has writer is bragging about being a GOAT MC, there should be NO excuses.
Its very possible to rate Kanye high without his lyrics. Just because of again, his beats, visuals, and overall contribution to the culture.

Drake is only a rapper, an average one at that who’s writing is questionable, who actually steals from the culture.

Its no real comparison.
 

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he's not and the general perception wasn't. Funny thing is, he has an "off the top" freestyle and everything drake doesn't...he is fully capable but switched gears long ago. Dude brought an MPC on stage...no "rappers" do that.



That's fair. But the horse mouth is what I'm going with over perception.

I thought he was a producer just rapping. I wasn't feeling through the wire when it dropped.

But All falls down brought me in and I saw potential and the subject matter was refreshing after listening to the album.
 

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Daamn there is a lot of revisionist history happening in here.

Kanye wasn't being checked for being a rapper now??

Ppl knew from day one that Kanye was using Ghostwriters??


c'mon now, y'all must not have been around at that time cuz if you were then you know damn well that ain't the truth.

NOBODY was talkin about Kanye and Ghost writers and ghost producers during that early run...
 
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