Prodeje of SOUTH CENTRAL CARTEL on beef with Prodigy and Havoc of Mobb Deep over having the same name.

[mobbinfms]

You’re looking at this from a fan perspective. The rap community is small, especially in the 1990s.

If you’re going to bite, and pass it off as your own, it’s obviously going to be something that isn’t well known on the east, right ?

Again I’m not saying Mobb Deep bit their names , just pointing out how flaw your logic is. Rappers have bitten shyt from unknown artists since forever and passed shyt off as their own.

This is a good point. But the rap game was extremely regional in 1990 as well. There is no evidence I’ve seen to suggest that SCC was known nationwide or even being distributed nationwide in 1990 (when the biting would have had to happen).

 

[mobbinfms]

Yep, I still have their first cassette and both Havoc's give their shoutouts in the booklet

Here we go. When did you get it?

 

[mobbinfms]

Yeah buddy is on some Stan shyt now.. SCC was out first and Prodeje put out Prodigal Son in 1990 while Prodigy went by the name Golden Chyld on the Boyz in the hood Soundtrack

Was Prodigal Son getting radio play in NY in 1990 though? Was it even in stores? Is there any evidence Mobb Deep knew about SCC in 1990?

 

[mobbinfms]

Ras Kass was.

 

[mobbinfms]

That's the flyest cover I've seen in a minute...

Nice office chair.

 

[mobbinfms]

N Gatz We Trust is a top 10 90's West Coast album imo

Hot take.
What’s your top ten?

 

[theflyest]

This is a good point. But the rap game was extremely regional in 1990 as well. There is no evidence I’ve seen to suggest that SCC was known nationwide or even being distributed nationwide in 1990 (when the biting would have had to happen).

Yes it was extremely regional at the time, but the rappers tend to know who each other are despite that. That’s what I meant by the rap community is a small community.

Someone like Tech N9ne said he was rapping for Treach back in 92. This was well before he was known. Rappers can be familiar with each other way before the fans are. That’s why gauging whether rapper A knows who rapper B is by whether their music was played nationally is flawed.

 

[mobbinfms]

Yes it was extremely regional at the time, but the rappers tend to know who each other are despite that. That’s what I meant by the rap community is a small community.

Someone like Tech N9ne said he was rapping for Treach back in 92. This was well before he was known. Rappers can be familiar with each other way before the fans are. That’s why gauging whether rapper A knows who rapper B is by whether their music was played nationally is flawed.

I agree with this as well. I think that’s after you’re on and start touring though. Mobb definitely wasn’t on before unsigned hype and I think SCC was on locally/regionally. I could be wrong about all of this, but I just don’t see any evidence to suggest that Mobb would have come across any SCC music in 1990.

Treach probably met Tech N9ne because Tech opened for him in KC.

 

[FreshAIG]

Here we go. When did you get it?

Not sure when, years ago though. I bought years after it came out.

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

I don't know what to think of this because this would be one of the craziest coincidences in history....but at the same time SCC wasn't a well known group.

It would be like a west coast group having the same names as The Boogiemonsters. Weird yeah, but most people don't even know who the fukk Boogiemonsters are.

Fred.

Honeydips in Gotham.

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

Tragedy aka Khadafi named his crew after Outaw figures like headrush napoleon, noreaga, capone etc..

Hmmmm

 

[Juggalo Fred]

Murder Dog didn’t exist in 91.
Are you claiming that the people who worked at the Source in 91 weren’t representative of knowledgeable East Coast fans? Which is relevant to whether Mobb would have known about SCC at the time.

Have you heard N Gatz We Truss before?

 

[hex]

Biggie smalls was a common nick name. It's not like having multiple Havikk and Prodejes in the same group




The source was a super biased magazine, real educated rap fans got their info from Murder Dog magazine

Biggie Smalls is from "Let's Do It Again".

Let's Do It Again (1975 film) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Fred.

 

[mobbinfms]

Have you heard N Gatz We Truss before?

No. I don’t think I’ve ever heard any SCC song.

 

[New Jeruzalem Journalist]

I liked both of their albums even though they OD'ed on the conspiracy theory shyt on the 2nd one.

Fred.

2nd Boogiemonsters album is my personal pick for most disappointing album of a release I was highly anticipating. I was fiendin' for God Sound off the single they dropped. They went way too heavy on the 7th Day Adventist shyt they were on, coupled with some very soft production. I remember blacking out on a HS teacher that summer who was late paying me and my mans for landscaping work we had done for him cuz I needed to cop that album so bad, lol.

Shyt was so disappointing I forget it even dropped in '97, and I remember damn near everything that popped off that summer, especially underground singles and releases.