Prodeje of SOUTH CENTRAL CARTEL on beef with Prodigy and Havoc of Mobb Deep over having the same name.

[shopthatwrecks]

I doubt SCC was ringing in the east like that for them to be bitten by Mob Deep imo.

it was more of a coincidence if anything...

dr dre - dr dre

big boi- big boy


souljah boy- soulja boy

skaface- scarface

thugga( slim thug and young thug)

 

[shopthatwrecks]

Mobb were known before the Pac incident. And they were definitely national at the time of Hit Em Up. They came in the game around the same time, and their videos were on the same shows...at definitely the underground shows in the Northeast, so I would assume y'all watched Rap City and were familiar with them.

And Spice 1, Eiht and Ice would've known who Mobb were then, as well. They spent hella time in New York.

like i said we can go tit for tat.. i kno alot of us didnt hear that shyt on the southwest..

we watch rap city.. changed the channel when some bullshyt came on

stuck in our ways jus like the east were...

we didnt give a fukk really about nas..until the beef

didnt give a shyt bout j until the beef..

we fukked with biggie.. n bad boy...

then like u said spice eiht n ice

russell simmons would have known it was some east coast nikkas when he came to the west for the scc

dj premier and guru was both there...it was said what happen when they was about to get into it... it was unbias..

the squashed it that day ... smoked out n went on

 

[Ol’Otis]

SCC was shook, according to Prodigy who never lied or exaggerated about anything.

 

[theflyest]

At what point would you say they were more than a C level west coast group?

SCC was actually a popular group in the early 90s. I don’t think people on here realize how popular they were in the streets, and they had national exposure years before Mobb Deep, specifically if you had the Box. I realize region comes in to play here. If you lived in a region that bumped west coast music, SCC definitely got play. I just can’t let you play them like these nyggas are trash c-list nyggas when they worked with Spice 1, Treach, Ice T, 2pac, etc.

I‘m not accusing Mobb Deep of stealing their names. However, I DO believe it’s clear that SCC had those names first. SCC is comprised of several members. If you check any SCC interview, they all say the group formed in 87-88. Them nyggas are older then Mobb Deep.

In Addition, there are TWO Havoc’s and TWO Prodigy’s in SCC lol. You got Havocc tha Mouthpiece, Havikk the Rhime Son, Big Prodeje, and Young Prodeje.

Big Prodeje released the Prodigal Son in 1990.



I’m definitely more of a Mobb Deep fan, but trying to diminish SCC as just some c list nobodies over some name shyt is just lame.

 

[shopthatwrecks]

SCC was actually a popular group in the early 90s. I don’t think people on here realize how popular they were in the streets, and they had national exposure years before Mobb Deep, specifically if you had the Box. I realize region comes in to play here. If you lived in a region that bumped west coast music, SCC definitely got play. I just can’t let you play them like these nyggas are trash c-list nyggas when they worked with Spice 1, Treach, Ice T, 2pac, etc.

I‘m not accusing Mobb Deep of stealing their names. However, I DO believe it’s clear that SCC had those names first. SCC is comprised of several members. If you check any SCC interview, they all say the group formed in 87-88. Them nyggas are older then Mobb Deep.

In Addition, there are TWO Havoc’s and TWO Prodigy’s in SCC lol. You got Havocc tha Mouthpiece, Havikk the Rhime Son, Big Prodeje, and Young Prodeje.

Big Prodeje released the Prodigal Son in 1990.



I’m definitely more of a Mobb Deep fan, but trying to diminish SCC as just some c list nobodies over some name shyt is just lame.

i was just about to post that it was 2 sets of both names lol

n too think they would let some lil young nikkas run up on them havin em shook... ..

guru and premier was needed to clear that shyt up.. because let prodigy tell it he was slappin plaits lol

 

[theflyest]

I doubt SCC was ringing in the east like that for them to be bitten by Mob Deep imo.

You’re looking at this from a fan perspective. The rap community is small, especially in the 1990s.

If you’re going to bite, and pass it off as your own, it’s obviously going to be something that isn’t well known on the east, right ?

Again I’m not saying Mobb Deep bit their names , just pointing out how flaw your logic is. Rappers have bitten shyt from unknown artists since forever and passed shyt off as their own.

 

[Metal Face]

I guess Biggie bit this cac too

 

[mobbinfms]

mobb deep wasnt gettin play with the prophet poetic shyt in cali or texas..nikkas didnt know what the fukk nikkas or who them nikkas were until pac named dropped em...

same shyt u can argue about scc i can go at u with it ..

They never released anything as the Poetical Prophets. By the time they dropped Juvenile Hell in early 93 they were Mobb Deep.
TX was definitely fukking with Mobb Deep heavy because UGK made a whole song off a Prodigy line from Shook Ones


CA was fukking with Mobb heavy going back to 93. Ras Kass’ favorite song of all time was Hit It From The Back off Juvenile Hell

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[mobbinfms]

n scc got play in the south that murda squad tape replay value.. n gatz we trust got play

why because both albums feature southern artist..big mike n 3-2 ...n other artist we already was familiar with spice pac boss ice t eiht

Ok. But the issue here is whether they were making noise prior to 91 in NY to the extent that Mobb Deep would have known who they were to bite their names.
I haven’t seen any evidence yet to suggest that that’s plausible.

 

[mobbinfms]

it was more of a coincidence if anything...

dr dre - dr dre

big boi- big boy


souljah boy- soulja boy

skaface- scarface

thugga( slim thug and young thug)

Exactly. At the end of the day, Havoc and Prodigy are pretty generic names.

 

[3rdWorld]

Back when hip hop was actually hip hop..

 

[Deltron]

still one of the wildest coincidences out there

 

[Complexion]

still one of the wildest coincidences out there

The odds are astronomical though. On their own Havoc and Prodigy are what they are but for two (plus one) sets of artists in the same game at the same time to pick the names as they paired up on two coasts? C'mon son.

Like BIG dropping Ready to Die on Sept 13th and Pac fulfilling that prophecy. Some things are designed to make you think when the Game winks in your direction.

 

[mobbinfms]

The fact that the Source didn’t mention anything about SCC in the unsigned hype column for Mobb in July 91 proves unquestionably that super knowledgeable East Coast heads in early 91 had no idea who SCC was. Imagine what the Source would have said if the Poetical Prophets were named Eazy E and Ice Cube

 

[FreshAIG]

I guess Biggie bit this cac too

I know you're kidding, but "Biggie Smalls" is a character from the movie Let's Do It Again, so a lot of people had that name.