So who is looking to sign up for "Obamacare" in about 2 weeks?

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Your mom doesn't have health insurance? Your mom doesn't have medicare?

My mother had to cancel her insurance because the insurance companies jacked up her rates. She is a sole proprietor and runs her own business, so she is forced to buy her own insurance. She isn't old enough for medicare. She has been trying to get quotes on the Obamacare website, but to no avail. Hopefully with this tech surge, this issue will be rectified.

From the get go, i was all for a PUBLIC OPTION, that would be available to those between 45-65 because it is the older americans that tend to get the worst deal on the private market. They are the main ones that really need help imho.
 

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My mother had to cancel her insurance because the insurance companies jacked up her rates. She is a sole proprietor and runs her own business, so she is forced to buy her own insurance. She isn't old enough for medicare. She has been trying to get quotes on the Obamacare website, but to no avail. Hopefully with this tech surge, this issue will be rectified.

From the get go, i was all for a PUBLIC OPTION, that would be available to those between 45-65 because it is the older americans that tend to get the worst deal on the private market. They are the main ones that really need help imho.

Maybe it would of passed if some of your republican buddies actually participated and signaled willingness to vote for a public option. They all were to chicken shyt scared to be called rino's to do that though. Real leaders in the republican party.:rudy:
 

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Maybe it would of passed if some of your republican buddies actually participated and signaled willingness to vote for a public option. They all were to chicken shyt scared to be called rino's to do that though. Real leaders in the republican party.:rudy:

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FLASHBACK: Obama Repeatedly Touted Public Option Before Refusing To Push For It In The Final Hours
BY ZAID JILANI ON DECEMBER 22, 2009 AT 4:00 PM


"FLASHBACK: Obama Repeatedly Touted Public Option Before Refusing To Push For It In The Final Hours"


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In recent days, there has been an uproar in the progressive community over the Senate’s decision to drop the public option from its health care bill in order to reach the crucial 60 votes needed to break a filibuster. Given that many liberals backed a single-payer, Medicare-for-all system, the public option was seen as a political compromise.

“I didn’t campaign on the public option,” President Obama told the Washington Post. But he touted the public option on his campaign website and spoke frequently in support of it during the first year of his presidency, citing its essential value in holding the private insurance industry accountable and providing competition:

– In the 2008 Obama-Biden health care plan on the campaign’s website, candidate Obama promised that “any American will have the opportunity to enroll in [a] new public plan.” [2008]

– During a speech at the American Medical Association, President Obama told thousands of doctors that one of the plans included in the new health insurance exchanges “needs to be a public option that will give people a broader range of choices and inject competition into the health care market.” [6/15/09]

– While speaking to the nation during his weekly address, the President said that “any plan” he signs “must include…a public option.” [7/17/09]

– During a conference call with progressive bloggers, the President said he continues “to believe that a robust public option would be the best way to go.” [7/20/09]

– Obama told NBC’s David Gregory that a public option “should be a part of this [health care bill],” while rebuking claims that the plan was “dead.” [9/20/09]

Despite all this overt advocacy for the public option, it appears that Obama was reticent to apply the political pressure necessary to get the plan in the final hours of congressional negotiation. Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) — who threatened to filibuster the creation of any new public plan or expansion of Medicare — told the Huffington Post that he “didn’t really have direct input from the White House” on the public option and was never specifically asked to support it.

Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI), one of the most ardent backers of public insurance, blamed the demise of the public option on a “lack of support from the administration.” Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-NY) — perhaps the most visible defender of the public option in the entire health care debate — went even further, saying that Obama’s lack of support for congressional progressives amounted to him being “half-pregnant” with the health insurance and drug industries.

UPDATE


“All I’ll say, I was surprised to hear this because I had assumed all along that the White House was pushing strongly for the public option,” Sen. Tom Harkin (D-IA) said. “I just assumed that.”


UPDATE

In response to a questionnaire from the Washington Post, then-candidate Obama said, “My plan builds on and improves our current insurance system, which most Americans continue to rely upon, and creates a new public health plan for those currently without coverage.”


UPDATE

,DailyKos diarist slinkerwink notes Obama talking about the public option in 2007.

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2009/12/22/74682/obama-repeatedly-touted-public/
 

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Not that I know what's going on @CACtain Planet, but Obama did give up on pushing for the public option, just like many Senate Democrats. They were all gung-ho for it until they realized it was actually possible and that they didn't need 60 then they fell back (those blue dogs). The insurance lobby got at them. Obama acquiesced trying to keep that coalition together (his biggest flaw as president---the just get something done mantra). With that said, I personally was never bothered as much as others that the bill did not automatically fund a public option. I am a numbers person and just usurping and existing system without any idea of what will happen is something I do cautiously, regardless of my intentions. I always approved of the proposed 10 year pilot program where you would basically extend medicare and medicaid to the second costliest group of individuals outside of the elderly and then monitor how it worked before pushing for a more universal system. As e see right now in Vermont, it's not as easy to implement a single-payer plan as we'd like to believe and it's proving to be costlier than they expected. That's not to say that I don't think a government option isn't the ultimate goal....I'm just more cautious in the absence of data.

Also, being in close proximity to MA, I didn't think that their healthcare system was a bad deal for the country :manny:.
 

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Exactly. Obama is the snake that gave up on the public option, in exchange of large donations from big pharma I'm sure.

Accept the fact you worship a president that this a sellout. It's his fault and his alone. Lmao at insurance reform.



So you conservative posters are saying the GOP would of voted for a public option if obama had it in the bill? LOL :snoop: at these retards in here. Obama had to take out the public option because blue dog senators like joe lieberman were not going to vote for a public option. Democrats were barely able to pass ACA without the public option. Since they had NO REPUBLICAN VOTES for anything the democrats were coming up with it's quite hypocritical to be talking about obama taking out the public option. As I said multiple times if there were some liberal republicans that would of hinted that they would of voted for a public option we would have it right now.
 

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Lieberman Says He’ll Filibuster Health Care Reform If Public Option Remains


http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2009/10/27/66455/lieberman-filibuster-health-care/

Earlier this month, when blogger-activist Mike Stark asked Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) if his opposition to the public option meant that he would filibuster a health care reform bill that included one, Lieberman was non-committal, saying “we’ll see” while also warning that there’s a “danger in doing too much.”

In remarks to reporters today, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) moved closer to siding with Republicans and actively blocking reform. Lieberman gave a wishy-washy response, stating that while he was “inclined” to vote to allow health care reform legislation to be debated on the Senate floor, he would “vote against cloture” if “the bill stays as it is now.” TPMDC has Lieberman’s comments:

“I told Senator Reid that I’m strongly inclined — I haven’t totally decided, but I’m strongly inclined — to vote to proceed to the health care debate, even though I don’t support the bill that he’s bringing together because it’s important that we start the debate on health care reform because I want to vote for health care reform this year. But I also told him that if the bill remains what it is now, I will not be able to support a cloture motion before final passage. Therefore I will try to stop the passage of the bill.

Lieberman claims that he wants to “vote for health care reform this year” and that the public option is a sticking point for him. But he also opposed the Baucus bill, which did not contain a public option. Last week, he told NPR, “If I decide in the end the bill that is about to leave the Senate is gonna do more harm than good, then I won’t vote for cloture at that point.”

ThinkProgress previously produced a report titled “Joe Lieberman: The Progressive Who Lost His Way.” View it here.

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So you conservative posters are saying the GOP would of voted for a public option if obama had it in the bill? LOL :snoop: at these retards in here. Obama had to take out the public option because blue dog senators like joe lieberman were not going to vote for a public option. Democrats were barely able to pass ACA without the public option. Since they had NO REPUBLICAN VOTES for anything the democrats were coming up with it's quite hypocritical to be talking about obama taking out the public option. As I said multiple times if there were some liberal republicans that would of hinted that they would of voted for a public option we would have it right now.
Dude, stop lumping me in with conservatives to make yourself feel better. Not once have I claimed conservatives have all the answers. I just can't stand Obama, simply because he lied all throughout the 2008 election about what he would do, then proceeded to do none of them upon his election. He'll he was even pushing for universal health care reform at one point. This final Obamacare solution has fail written all over it.

Dude is just a disingenuous liar. Simple and plain.
 

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Dude, stop lumping me in with conservatives to make yourself feel better. Not once have I claimed conservatives have all the answers. I just can't stand Obama, simply because he lied all throughout the 2008 election about what he would do, then proceeded to do none of them upon his election. He'll he was even pushing for universal health care reform at one point. This final Obamacare solution has fail written all over it.

Dude is just a disingenuous liar. Simple and plain.

I point out the facts yet you sound like fox news channel. I didn't say obama was perfect either but I am bring up facts of the situation he was elected in. Republicans refused to work with him and he had to cave to blue dogs or not pass anything. Those are the facts. Sorry if I don't join your hate parade.
 

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I point out the facts yet you sound like fox news channel. I didn't say obama was perfect either but I am bring up facts of the situation he was elected in. Republicans refused to work with him and he had to cave to blue dogs or not pass anything. Those are the facts. Sorry if I don't join your hate parade.

Continue to worship Obama unwaveringly if it makes you feel better. Just realize you and the other Obamabots are looking more and more ridiculous as time passes.
 

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No wonder conservatives have idolised putin recently, they prefer to be ruled with an ironfist than have a real democracy.
 
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