So who is looking to sign up for "Obamacare" in about 2 weeks?

[Tony D'Amato]

The only one enjoying the suffering of millions is corporatists like this President. He deliberately left the public option and single payer system to the side.

No one who professes to care about the poor and working class would actually advocate giving more power and funds to some of the worst corporations on this planet.

It's like saying they care about the drug problem/addicts in America and then increasing the Drug War. It's not compatible with rationality.

I believe he did what was politically possible and unintentially may have helped the debate in the future.

The best part of this law is no politician will have the heart to take away that pre existing condition thing. The mandate is what people hate, but is what the insurance industry loves. You take away the mandate and keep pre existing conditions as law and we may be able to actually change the system in the future.

I still believe this law is good for the future. I just wish there was a united congresd working to better it

 

[DEAD7]

You're another one. Have fun enjoying the suffering of millions. You probably have a pool in your office picking the # of deaths of poor people with pre existing conditions and laughing at their situations. Pure evil right here people


And I believe Blame should be spread to
those that just sit and root for failure or in some cases obstructionist that are purposely making the law fail for political reasons.

There is more than one way to care for people.


and no one is turned away from hospital care as is.

 

[Type Username Here]

I believe he did what was politically possible and unintentially may have helped the debate in the future.

The best part of this law is no politician will have the heart to take away that pre existing condition thing. The mandate is what people hate, but is what the insurance industry loves. You take away the mandate and keep pre existing conditions as law and we may be able to actually change the system in the future.

I still believe this law is good for the future. I just wish there was a united congresd working to better it

Like I said, there were plenty of tidbits that were positive. I'm not denying that, but they all revolve around the corruption of the same insurance companies the system demands everyone to participate in. I don't believe the free market has anyone's interest in mind except owners, elites, shareholders and boardmembers. I think the individual mandate was actually a step back, not towards, universal health care in this country.

I hate these insurance companies. They are the scum of the earth.

 

[Type Username Here]

There is more than one way to care for people.

and no one is turned away from hospital care as is.

No one is turned away, but people go bankrupt just trying to stay healthy. That is immoral in my opinion. The last minute ER nonsense has actually proven to be a bigger waste of money. Now, the centrists, moderate Republicans and Corporatists think the answer is the free market and the same set of companies that put us there in the first place, but I don't.

 

[DEAD7]

No one is turned away, but people go bankrupt just trying to stay healthy. That is immoral in my opinion. The last minute ER nonsense has actually proven to be a bigger waste of money. Now, the centrists, moderate Republicans and Corporatists think the answer is the free market and the same set of companies that put us there in the first place, but I don't.

Sure, but to phrase it as if sick people are being killed or allowed to die is wrong.

everyone who needs care receives care.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

The only one enjoying the suffering of millions is corporatists like this President. He deliberately left the public option and single payer system to the side.

No one who professes to care about the poor and working class would actually advocate giving more power and funds to some of the worst corporations on this planet.

It's like saying they care about the drug problem/addicts in America and then increasing the Drug War. It's not compatible with rationality.

I usually don't agree with you, but your fukking spot on here. Obama went from supporting Universal single payer on the campaign trail to corporatist run insurance reform.

The lies and deceit by this president is beyond disgusting.

 

[Jello Biafra]

I believe he did what was politically possible

Well there is your problem right there...his entire run as President so far has been to just do what was considered politically possible. Obama didn't care what was in the bill as long as it was something that would get passed. He is too quick to capitulate and his political negotiating skills have been proven to be almost nil.
Instead of grabbing some old Repub policy and using that as his starting point, he should have started at Single Payer and then negotiated towards the middle. Instead he starts at the middle and ends up middle-right and still didn't get Repub support so he had to ram it through with only Dems supporting it anyway.

 

[Type Username Here]

Well there is your problem right there...his entire run as President so far has been to just do what was considered politically possible. Obama didn't care what was in the bill as long as it was something that would get passed. He is too quick to capitulate and his political negotiating skills have been proven to be almost nil.
Instead of grabbing some old Repub policy and using that as his starting point, he should have started at Single Payer and then negotiated towards the middle. Instead he starts at the middle and ends up middle-right and still didn't get Repub support so he had to ram it through with only Dems supporting it anyway.

In the beginning I thought it was about politics and him being a bad negotiator. I don't believe that now. This is about greed, Reaganomics and corporatism all the way. It feels like a charade and puppet theater.

 

[Type Username Here]

Will anyone be surprised if the bill gets gutted in order to do away with the business mandates, restrictions on insuring people with pre-existing conditions, and the slight increase in medicare expansion?

Will it surprise anyone if in a couple of years the only thing that stands from this bill is the individual mandate?

Wouldn't surprise me at all.

If you read the Roberts decision it sets a path to do just that.

 

[Tony D'Amato]

Will anyone be surprised if the bill gets gutted in order to do away with the business mandates, restrictions on insuring people with pre-existing conditions, and the slight increase in medicare expansion?

Will it surprise anyone if in a couple of years the only thing that stands from this bill is the individual mandate?

Wouldn't surprise me at all.

If you read the Roberts decision it sets a path to do just that.

I dont see that. The one thing that everyone hates survives? No way.

Some of you just arent rational. This whole single payer thing was not going to happen with that congress, this congress or the next congress. Or probably even the congress after the next congress.

I always saw promise in exchanges. I'm still interested in seeing what they will do. But in this country the problem is options. In Cali, Kaiser dominates the market. I'm tired of them. I see the issues people in my family have with them, I hate them. Most people that have them, hate them. I'd bet its like that everywhere with whatever provider dominates that region. The system needs more competition because the day will probably never come to just get rid ofhealth insurance companies.

 

[Yapdatfool]

Will anyone be surprised if the bill gets gutted in order to do away with the business mandates, restrictions on insuring people with pre-existing conditions, and the slight increase in medicare expansion?

Will it surprise anyone if in a couple of years the only thing that stands from this bill is the individual mandate?

Wouldn't surprise me at all.

If you read the Roberts decision it sets a path to do just that.

Me either. Probably increase the tax penalty for not having health insurance too year by year, what a joke.

 

[AV Dicey]

I dont see that. The one thing that everyone hates survives? No way.

Some of you just arent rational. This whole single payer thing was not going to happen with that congress, this congress or the next congress. Or probably even the congress after the next congress.

I always saw promise in exchanges. I'm still interested in seeing what they will do. But in this country the problem is options. In Cali, Kaiser dominates the market. I'm tired of them. I see the issues people in my family have with them, I hate them. Most people that have them, hate them. I'd bet its like that everywhere with whatever provider dominates that region. The system needs more competition because the day will probably never come to just get rid ofhealth insurance companies.

hey they wanted Obama to blow up a whole industry while in the midst of the great recession...those are the joys of not governing and sitting on the sidelines

 

[gho3st]

I'm about to enroll in Obamacare. Wish me luck

 

[IGSaint12]

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WASHINGTON — Despite the disastrous rollout of the federal government's healthcare website, enrollment is surging in many states as tens of thousands of consumers sign up for insurance plans made available by President Obama's health law.

A number of states that use their own systems, including California, are on track to hit enrollment targets for 2014 because of a sharp increase in November, according to state officials.

"What we are seeing is incredible momentum," said Peter Lee, director of Covered California, the nation's largest state insurance marketplace, which accounted for a third of all enrollments nationally in October. California — which enrolled about 31,000 people in health plans last month — nearly doubled that in the first two weeks of this month.

Several other states, including Connecticut and Kentucky, are outpacing their enrollment estimates, even as states that depend on the federal website lag far behind. In Minnesota, enrollment in the second half of October ran at triple the rate of the first half, officials said. Washington state is also on track to easily exceed its October enrollment figure, officials said.

 

[IGSaint12]

http://api.viglink.com/api/click?fo...ns-momentum/&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13850958916186

California’s Health Exchange Gains Momentum

While the federal health-insurance exchange continues to be bogged down by problems, California’s state health exchange is gaining momentum, according to new figures released by the state Thursday.

As of Nov. 19, nearly 80,000 Californians had selected a private health plan, as enrollments more than doubled since the beginning of the month. Enrollment rates rose to about 2,700 per day in the second week of November from 700 per day in the initial week after the Covered California exchange opened Oct. 1, the state said.

California is one of 14 states running its own exchange, while the federal HealthCare.gov site serves consumers in 36 states. The numbers are the latest sign that some states are seeing superior performance in their exchanges compared to the troubled federal site.

Even with the improved numbers, California still has a long way to go. The state has more than seven million people without health insurance, according to an estimate by the Kaiser Family Foundation. California said it was confident that the state would meet its target of enrolling 500,000 to 700,000 people eligible for subsidized private coverage by the March 31 end of enrollment. In addition, hundreds of thousands of Californians are likely to be newly eligible for Medicaid.

California’s online health exchange netted more private insurance enrollees in October than HealthCare.gov, according to numbers released on Nov. 13 by the Obama administration and California. The federal government said California enrolled 35,364 people though Nov. 2, compared with 26,794 for HealthCare.gov.

On Thursday, California also released demographic data for the first time showing that young people are applying for insurance in proportion to their share of the state’s population. Health officials have expressed concern that problems with HealthCare.gov and some state exchanges would mean the exchanges would mostly attract older people with a greater need for coverage and alienate young people from applying. That could jeopardize the success of President Barack Obama’s health overhaul.

Of the nearly 31,000 people who enrolled in California private plans in October, about 22.5% were between 18 and 34, a group that makes up about 21% of the state’s population.

California also said that the rate of people completing applications for health insurance has increased, reaching more than 10,000 a day. During the week of Nov. 10 to Nov. 16, nearly 72,000 applications were completed, up from about 40,000 during the week of Oct. 27 to Nov. 2, the state said. As of Nov. 19, more than 360,000 residents have completed a health insurance application.