So who is looking to sign up for "Obamacare" in about 2 weeks?

[CapitalOne]

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100925732

 

[newworldafro]

I'm ashamed to call myself a democrat after watching this speech:


@DEAD7 pick your brain apart with this one when you get the chance...

you late as shiit.... and I ain't in no means stanning Republicans ... one in the same at this point ...... shiit will make your political outlook schizo, cause there some things one party says that makes sense, but then some things the other party says that makes sense, and then both will say or promote some shiit that is sheer disgusting .... .... what's worse is posters, but more importantly the public falling on on side of the other when there is so much craziness throughout ... its just like ........ I don't stan politicians or parties, I support ideas that's it ...

 

[JT-Money]

Are they really at $600 million down the drain with the website? Not counting the new contractors they have brought in

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Anyone familiar with Federal IT contracting knew this website would crash and burn. I doubt it cost that insane amount of money just for the website. But those Federal contracting companies are still raping the government for billions each year.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...ght-be-glitchy-but-it-didnt-cost-634-million/

 

[Shogun]

Ima be honest, I've given up paying attention to this shyt

whats up with cnn telling me 34 democrats voted for some republican backed "fix" to the bill? whats the story there?

 

[CACtain Planet]

Ima be honest, I've given up paying attention to this shyt

whats up with cnn telling me 34 democrats voted for some republican backed "fix" to the bill? whats the story there?

Democrips decaying before our very eyes brehs

House passes Republican health bill with 39 Democratic votes

(Reuters) - In the most significant legislative rebuke to President Barack Obama's healthcare overhaul, 39 members of his Democratic Party voted for a Republican bill in the House of Representatives on Friday aimed at undermining his signature domestic policy.

The measure, which would allow insurance companies to renew and sell inexpensive, limited-coverage policies that have been canceled because they don't meet the standards of the new healthcare law that took effect on October 1, passed 261-157.

The 39 Democrats who supported the bill - nearly one-fifth of the party's caucus - reflected the alarm that spread within Obama's party this week over the political damage from the botched rollout of the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare.

Republicans have vowed to make Democratic support for the troubled law the top issue in the 2014 elections. Twenty-nine of the 39 Democrats who voted for the Republican bill are running for re-election in competitive races, according to rankings by the nonpartisan Cook Political Report.

Obama's approval ratings have plunged during the past six weeks, as the rollout of the healthcare program that is his top domestic achievement has been beset by technical glitches with the federal online insurance website designed to allow consumers to shop for policies.

In recent days, HealthCare.gov's problems have been overshadowed by reports that insurance companies were canceling the policies of millions of Americans whose policies did not meet the new law's requirements that policies cover emergency treatment, hospital stays and prescription drugs, among other things.

For years, Obama had promised that Americans would be able to keep their policies if they liked them.

But the wave of cancellations has fueled the biggest political crisis of Obama's presidency and led to an extraordinary scene at the White House on Thursday, as a contrite Obama took the blame for the healthcare program's dismal start.

He said he believed that he had to win back the confidence of the American people, and offered an administrative "fix" that would allow some people to retain their non-conforming insurance policies for at least a year.

Obama's plan dismayed some of his supporters who say that the cheap, limited-coverage plans that the new law aims to phase out often give consumers a false sense of having meaningful health coverage.

It also created concern in the insurance industry - which for years had planned the health insurance exchanges created by Obamacare - and among state insurance commissioners.

Industry advocates warned that Obama effectively was tinkering with the delicate and complex funding behind the healthcare law, and that premiums could begin soaring in 2015 if millions of consumers who were projected to be in Obamacare's health exchanges continued to hold limited-coverage policies instead.

Obama met with health insurance chief executives at the White House on Friday to discuss his proposal's potential impact on the insurance market.

"What we're going to be doing is brainstorming on how do we make sure that everybody understands what their options are," Obama told reporters in a brief photo opportunity as the meeting began. "We're going to be soliciting ideas from them."

'FRUSTRATED AND ANGERED'

Friday's bill, introduced by Republican Representative Fred Upton of Michigan, represented the latest in a series of legislative attacks on the healthcare law by the chamber, which has held more than 40 votes to limit or curtail Obamacare.

In touting his bill, Upton said that Obama "personally promised that if people liked their current health care plan, they could keep it ‘no matter what.' But cancellation notices are now arriving in millions of mailboxes across the country. It's cancellation today, sticker shock tomorrow."

It is unlikely to pass the Democrat-controlled Senate, and the White House has said Obama would veto the legislation if it reached his desk.

The House bill would allow people whose low-cost coverage was canceled to keep those policies, and also would allow insurers to continue selling policies that do not cover basic services and offer little financial help for catastrophic health events.

Critics said the House bill would undermine Obamacare's attempt to improve the healthcare system.

House Democratic opponents cast the vote as another Republican effort to sabotage the healthcare law.

Republicans "are perfectly satisfied with 40 million Americans having no health insurance at all," said Representative James McGovern, a Massachusetts Democrat. "If you want to go back to a system where the insurance companies can turn people away because they are sick, by all means vote for this bill."

But Representative Ron Barber, a Democrat from Arizona, summarized why he and 38 other Democrats voted for the Republican bill.

"I am frustrated and angered by the continuing problems with the healthcare website and I know Southern Arizonans are frustrated and angry, too," Barber said.

"Today I voted to give people the option to keep their current plan until these and other issues are resolved. That's only fair."

House Democrats were blocked in an effort to offer a scaled-down version of Upton's bill.

(Additional reporting by Roberta Rampton and Caren Bohan; Editing by Doina Chiacu, Ross Colvin and Grant McCool)

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/15/us-usa-healthcare-idUSBRE9AE0RY20131115

 

[newworldafro]

 

[Family Man]

So the Republicans were right about Obamacare all along?

 

[newworldafro]

So the Republicans were right about Obamacare all along?

Not only were they right (no Republican stan, b/se the concept ultimately came from the Heritage Foundation and was instituted by Mitt Romney in Massachusetts more or less), but yeah all the talk about Repubs and Tea Party are racists (some may be) during those crazy town hall meetings was folks throwing up the race mantra and not looking at the information itself. Think about it, how can we forget that Pelosi said "we have to pass the law to know what's in it" ????

And here is the Heritage Foundation's document right here from 1989 .... the alternative media sphere has talked about this several times .....enjoy .... http://americablog.com/2013/10/orig...on-created-obamacares-individual-mandate.html

And now they got Democrats jumping ship and hopping on the bandwagon ......

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/15/house-votes-let-americans-keep-health-plans-39-dem/

House votes to let Americans keep health plans; 39 Dems defy Obama

By Tom Howell Jr. The Washington Times Friday, November 15, 2013

Nearly 40 House Democrats defied President Obama and helped the Republican majority pass a bill Friday that lets Americans keep, for one year, health plans that do not comply with Obamacare.
The defections from 39 members of Mr. Obama’s party highlighted the pressure on Congress to help people who lost coverage because of the president’s signature law, as balky websites keep a veil over alternative plans and pressure mounts on the Democrat-led Senate to forge a remedy.

“Let’s face it, millions of people right now have a cancelled policy,” Rep. Ron Barber, Arizona Democrat, said before voting for the Keep Your Health Plan Act.
The House passed the bill, 261 to 157, despite a veto threat from Mr. Obama and objections from Democrats who said the legislation was an insidious attempt to rot the Affordable Care Act from the inside out.
Four Republicans voted against the bill, perhaps because it could be viewed as an attempt to smooth over Mr. Obama’s controversial reforms.
Rep. Fred Upton, Michigan Republican, offered the bill at the height of furor over Mr. Obama’s oft-repeated promise that people who liked their health plans could keep them. Millions of Americans received cancellation notices because their plans did not meet the health care law’s coverage requirements, forcing the president to apologize as vulnerable Democrats scrambled to find a legislative solution.
Rampant glitches on the HealthCare.gov website — a federal portal that connects 36 states with plans under Obamcare — have intensified the problem, because people losing their policies cannot explore their options.
Mr. Barber said some Arizonans are “beside themselves.”
“Because by December 31 they don’t have health coverage, and they can’t get on the exchange to find out what’s available,” he told reporters.
Mr. Obama announced an administrative remedy on Thursday that permits insurers to offer a one-year renewal to people who hold noncompliant plans, and Senate Democrats are pushing legislation that would let existing enrollees hold onto their plans indefinitely.
The Republican-led bill goes further, allowing new enrollees to gain current health plans that do not comply with Obamacare.
Democratic opponents of the bill said the GOP offered a hocus-pocus fix that amounts to yet another attempt to repeal Mr. Obama’s signature law.
“It basically allows them to sell low-quality 2013 plans all through 2014, nothing else,” Rep. Frank Pallone, New Jersey Democrat, said.
Rep. Jim McGovern, Massachusetts Democrat, deemed it a “colossal waste of time.”
The White House said Mr. Obama would veto the House bill because it would likely increase the number of people with barebones plans, undermining Obamacare’s attempts to offer better protections through state-based insurance markets.

 

[Tony D'Amato]

My issue is Obama is really getting too much blame. How exactly can this law do its purpose when Repubs are determined to see it fail? The law is dependent on state legislators a lil too nuch for 1. Then from the feds standpoint, you need both parties invested in making the law work. The only thing I blameObama for is the website. That just looks bad.

Then he should be proposing a medicare expansion or something for people who will lose their insurance. Or some kind of Federal exchange for
them.

This law was never going to fix all of our issues. Our main issue being a for profit health system. I still can appreciate Obama and co at least trying to get coverage to those that have been forgotten. Somewhere that fact seems to be ignored. I appreciate the fact that the insurance companies cant discriminate against people with pre existing health conditions. The few good it does is completely ignored.

I just find it kinda disgusting to see people laugh and enjoy this thing failing. I have zero hope for our future as a society

 

[Family Man]

My issue is Obama is really getting too much blame. How exactly can this law do its purpose when Repubs are determined to see it fail? The law is dependent on state legislators a lil too nuch for 1. Then from the feds standpoint, you need both parties invested in making the law work. The only thing I blameObama for is the website. That just looks bad.

Then he should be proposing a medicare expansion or something for people who will lose their insurance. Or some kind of Federal exchange for
them.

This law was never going to fix all of our issues. Our main issue being a for profit health system. I still can appreciate Obama and co at least trying to get coverage to those that have been forgotten. Somewhere that fact seems to be ignored. I appreciate the fact that the insurance companies cant discriminate against people with pre existing health conditions. The few good it does is completely ignored.

I just find it kinda disgusting to see people laugh and enjoy this thing failing. I have zero hope for our future as a society

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

Ted Cruz looking like a saint right now.

 

[Tony D'Amato]

Sees reply, sees daps, recocognizes a couple of demonic souls enjoying this law's failure. Weeps for the future.

 

[DEAD7]

My issue is Obama is really getting too much blame.

 

[Tony D'Amato]

You're another one. Have fun enjoying the suffering of millions. You probably have a pool in your office picking the # of deaths of poor people with pre existing conditions and laughing at their situations. Pure evil right here people


And I believe Blame should be spread to
those that just sit and root for failure or in some cases obstructionist that are purposely making the law fail for political reasons.

 

[Type Username Here]

You're another one. Have fun enjoying the suffering of millions. You probably have a pool in your office picking the # of deaths of poor people with pre existing conditions and laughing at their situations. Pure evil right here people


And I believe Blame should be spread to
those that just sit and root for failure or in some cases obstructionist that are purposely making the law fail for political reasons.

The only one enjoying the suffering of millions is corporatists like this President. He deliberately left the public option and single payer system to the side.

No one who professes to care about the poor and working class would actually advocate giving more power and funds to some of the worst corporations on this planet.

It's like saying they care about the drug problem/addicts in America and then increasing the Drug War. It's not compatible with rationality.