The Coli Where we rank Kyle Lowry over Jason Kidd.. Scust @malta

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No doubt Lowry is better offensively/better shooter
It's painfully embarrassing that something so obvious is met with gasps and condemnation. If Kidd's prime was smack middle during the height of the New Media Age, everyone would be looking at him completely different. But since he came up during a time when online-SI was low, traditional values were still in rotation, and he played in a conference during arguably it's weakest period in the modern era, folks would rather remain blind.

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Martin was early in his career, averaging 15 and 17 points those seasons. Basically someone had to win the east those years. That was the time period where 50-32 would get you the top seed in the east. There’s been 14 teams to make the finals since 1980 that didn’t have a past, present, or future MVP. From 1999-2005 only one team to win the east had one on the team, just to give an idea how bad the east was back then. LeBron alone makes these cavaliers better than any eastern conference team from 1999-2000 through at least 2002-03. Kidd had ten postseasons shooting under 40% from the field and nine postseasons shooting below 33% from deep.
martin was trash and couldn’t dribble or shoot, only way him or Richard Jefferson scored was off Kidd’s Assist. Neither could dribble or shoot during that period, only shooters on the team was kittles and can Horne

Would those 00s Nets squads be able to beat the Cavs in the past 2-3 seasons?

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would kidd led these current raps at pg better than Lowry? I would bet my last dollar. Kidd would make every single player on the team including derozen better.

Being one of the best defensive perimeter players every and his court vision and would push this team to way higher limits

Yea kidd player in the weak east, when it was go time he was always ready, he was never gonna win a chip with those nets teams cause the west had all the big men and east had none really.


Add Lowry to that nets team and they barely make the offs man, he would be launching 3s and getting nobody buckets and they would loss so much
 

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Nothing to let go - Lowry had a better season last year than Kidd ever did.

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FORGET THE FACT THE KIDD IS JUST A WAY BETTER DISTRIBUTOR THAN LOWRY ON OFFENSE.... U DO REALIZE THAT OFFENSE IS ONLY 50% OF THE GAME, RIGHT? KIDD’S DEFENSE ALONE MAKES HIM BETTER THAN LOWRY- EVEN IF HE TURNED INTO SMUSH PARKER ON OFFENSE, STILL BETTER ON THE STRENGTH OF HIS DEFENSIVE PROWESS.
 

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It's painfully embarrassing that something so obvious is met with gasps and condemnation. If Kidd's prime was smack middle during the height of the New Media Age, everyone would be looking at him completely different. But since he came up during a time when online-SI was low, traditional values were still in rotation, and he played in a conference during arguably it's weakest period in the modern era, folks would rather remain blind.

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It's more than that. It's just hard to compare guys across eras. Kidd didn't choose his competition and the value of efficiency and shooting prowess wasnt recognized the way it is now. Whatever Kidd's faults, I think it's safe to say he got the most out of his skill set in leading two teams to the Finals. Lowry on the other hand...
 

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KIDD HAD MULTIPLE PLAYOFF GAMES WHERE HE DIDN'T SCORE IN THE 4TH QUARTER.

Kidd did 100x more on the court then him tho and he was there to be the scorer. He was getting his players option, calling plays, playing defense, being the master of the fast break.

I would take kidd on the mavs as a old man over Lowry. Dude is nothin special and product of this era and would be locked down and reduced to spot up shooter in that era. Plus he is a chick artist
 
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would kidd led these current raps at pg better than Lowry? I would bet my last dollar. Kidd would make every single player on the team including derozen better.

Being one of the best defensive perimeter players every and his court vision and would push this team to way higher limits

Yea kidd player in the weak east, when it was go time he was always ready, he was never gonna win a chip with those nets teams cause the west had all the big men and east had none really.


Add Lowry to that nets team and they barely make the offs man, he would be launching 3s and getting nobody buckets and they would loss so much
Kidd did 100x more on the court then him tho and he was there to be the scorer. He was getting his players option, calling plays, playing defense, being the master of the fast break.

I would take kidd on the mavs as a old man over Lowry. Dude is nothin special and product of this era and would be locked down and reduced to spot up shooter in that era. Plus he is a chick artist
I've addressed and debunked all these points more than you'd care to believe. You obviously aren't either a) familiar with Lowry's game b) unfamiliar/exaggerating Kidd's abilities, or a combination of both.

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Nothing to let go - Lowry had a better season last year than Kidd ever did.

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The only thing Lowry does better is score. And what good is that if he's shown a pattern of losing that advantage during big games?

(Rhetorical question, I ain't arguing this nonsense with you :heh:)
 
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It's more than that.
It's really not, because by that simple notion of him being a better offensive player (the side of the ball where the main ball-handler has the most impact), it shouldn't lead to everyone acting like it's an absurd take. I don't have an issue with folks disagreeing with me, I take issue with folks thinking that it's risible to suggest so.
Whatever Kidd's faults, I think it's safe to say he got the most out of his skill set in leading two teams to the Finals. Lowry on the other hand...
Question, do you think Kidd would've gone to the Finals if he came up against a top-3 player OAT, in his prime?
 
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