This is why black fathers instilling pride in their sons is so important. Very cringe read.

[Samori Toure]

Are you serious about the bolded? I attended a SEC college when the SEC was dominating the bowls year after year. I can assure you, that if a footballer ended up with a non black girl, it’s because that’s what he wanted. It had nothing to do with rejection.

And btw, a lot of dudes got play. Athletes, frats, regular dudes too. Nothing is holding black men back from black women except their insecurity (I’m speaking in general before dudes catch feelings).

So would you date the fourth string walk on long snapper or were sistas only interested in the star running backs, quarterbacks, wide receivers and linebackers?

I went to school with a lot of sistas that were about status symbols. I saw much more insecurity in the women, because they didn't want people criticizing them for dating certain dudes. Just like in this thread where people are critical of the young lady, because she helped the man.

 

[theGoldmangod]

I keep bringing up this american black shyt because every reason a person gave as to why this woman is stupid is based on a black american perspective and outlook on life
You got brehs talking about black women on section 8 raising black men and risking losing it lmao (does africa even have section 8?)

Let me get this straight ...
A black man who is on his grind is a bum? I'm not talking about a breh who smokes weed all day and plays 2k in his 30s
I'm talking a breh genuinely down on his luck. Is it wrong for a woman to love him and help him back on his foot?
Is a man only valuable when he is doing good and prospering?
Should a woman bush a man if he has everything going for himself and hits a rough patch?

It seems to me that's what you are saying

Also to answer your question. If I love somebody and see potential in them I have no problem providing help. Isn't that what a relationship is about? You finding somebody that can help you and enjoy the fruits of life y'all build together?

When does a black man have value?

Idk about all that section 8 shyt.

What I do know is that this wasn't a nikka on his grind. He was jobless, homeless, degreeless, with no car, and no plan. There isn't a more classic case of a bum that I have seen. He's the exact type of nikka that if she got pregnant by him, or had years of her life wasted by him and he dipped, YOU would be first in line to say she chose bad and Black women are terrible mate selectors.

You trying to turn this into some poor Black man shyt is just weird to me. Its not like this nikka was disabled.

Honestly...why would a nikka like that even want to date at a time like that in his life? How are you as a man even comfortable enough being in that situation to be thinking about p*ssy ?

There's a lot of entitlement in your questions too. You asking what does he deserve if he's down and out, as if someone is doing something wrong to him by not helping him. Like he's entitled to it in the first place. When the last time you decided to get with a bytch who had no attractive qualities, and try to make her attractive? Exactly. Me neither.

The shyt just makes no sense to me, Idk breh. Then again, a lot of you nikkas are just...different these days. I don't think I'm meant to understand it.

 

[southern.girl]

So would you date the fourth string walk on long snapper or were sistas only interested in the star running backs, quarterbacks, wide receivers and linebackers?

I went to school with a lot of sistas that were about status symbols. I saw much more insecurity in the women, because they didn't want people criticizing them for dating certain dudes. Just like in this thread where people are critical of the young lady, because she helped the man.

In terms of athletes, I saw 3rd string/red shirt CB getting play BEFORE they made it to the starting line up a year or two after. Your whole scenario seems hella foreign to me.

 

[Ya?]

for the people advocating for him having pride... that nikka had pride because he stayed on his hustle and accepted help when he needed it...

for the people advocating for her leaving him...
she found a solid nikka who was in a bad situation and stuck with him...
you would rather her stick with a fukk nikka who has a good situation?

Ya ok, he had no options.

No man respects women who do alladat. The day that it doesn’t workout or he cheats she is going to throw all back to his face when she should have found a man who could carry his own weight.

 

[Amused Mastery]

So much bullshyt in your response. When you are a broke college nikka; you ain't getting much play from sistas.

I've never actually seen this play out in real life. Black college dudes with a good head on their shoulders don't have issues attracting black women at all. Plenty of black couples on college campuses.

 

[Matt504]

So much bullshyt in your response. When you are a broke college nikka; you ain't getting much play from sistas.

In terms of athletes, I saw 3rd string/red shirt CB getting play BEFORE they made it to the starting line up a year or two after. Your whole scenario seems hella foreign to me.

because he's fighting to find this weird ass edge case where Black women are not giving a college athlete play. Next iteration will involve the athlete being "into anime" and "talking white"

 

[Originalman]

That’s great that your inner circle all believe in & support marriage. However, based on statistics, that is largely not the case for our community....especially before 30.

And you keep on focusing on black men marrying black women as if that was my gripe. It was not. I was responding to a poster that stated declining marriage rates were not black men’s fault b/c they are getting married to white women. I didn’t mentioned the others first. I simply responded to it.

And once again I adressed the reason for that. Also statistics show that for black people marriage has moved to a more common union between educated and economically mobile while less educated and poor are overwhelmingly not getting married. But that is an issue creeping into society for the rest of the country. Folks fill like marriage is for well to do folks. Where in the past it was looked as a union to raise a family first of all and live with the opposite sex (as a way to have sex without the social stigma). Now the social stigma has been removed with having kids out of wedlock and living together.

I didn't see your post before talking about marriage rates. You quoted me mentioning brothas and GMB. Naturally if we talking about black males getting married we talking about black men marrying sistas cause statistically thats who black men marry the most when they get married.

Also getting married and believing in marriage is not just my inner circle that is the inner circle of many educated black well to do black folks.

 

[Samori Toure]

In terms of athletes, I saw 3rd string/red shirt CB getting play BEFORE they made it to the starting line up a year or two after. Your whole scenario seems hella foreign to me.

Then maybe you are a unicorn, because I know a lot of regular dudes that got turned down regularly.

 

[southern.girl]

The first answer is that you can not lead when a person on your team does not want to follow. Much like in your football example, that is why star wide receivers (Black women) are traded all the time, but the quarterbacks are kept. If the quarterback is going to take the blame then he needs weapons that will work with him. The wide receiver that is all about "I" worrying about her stats, but not about whether the "team" wins is not accepting her responsibility to help the team become winners is almost always traded (dumped).

Black American women priced themselves out of the market way back when they started talking that "on their level shyt." They basically reduced Black American men down to the value of a commodity. That is some sick crap on some kind European slave standard, which reduces the price of humanity down to some kind of fugged up monetary value. The thing that pisses Black women off is when Black men do the same thing to them and reduce them down from a woman to a bytch or a hoe; because hoes have value too and they even tell you what it costs.

It sounds like you are describing a man that needs permission to lead. For the record, it’s easier to find women that will follow your lead when you have a track record.

And I still don’t understand why it’s so horrible for black women to desire a mate with the same experiences & lifestyle that she’s would like to live...especially if she said woman is expected to submit. A lot of black women aren’t even requiring the dude to bring more to the proverbial table...just match what she provides. I don’t fault people (men or women) for holding on to standards that they also provide as an individual.

 

[Savvir]

Ya ok, he had no options.

No man respects women who do alladat. The day that it doesn’t workout or he cheats she is going to throw all back to his face when she should have found a man who could carry his own weight.

If i was going through ahrd time and a chick had my back i would respect her....
you're telling me you don't respect people you date if they are willing to help you?

jesus... what is a relationship for then if not for helping each other grow and become better?

I guess if a nikkas money aint looking right he should break up with his girl and vice versa?

 

[Ya?]

I can’t believe some of the responses from so called grown men in this thread

Son was a bum and needed a woman to raise him. He just listed shyt she did for him, not shyt he likes about her.

That’s what I find very common with these types of black men they only list things that you do for them never any character traits or even what they offer.

This marriage won’t last and that list is exactly why. No woman should spend her life raising a man, support is not taking the pants in the relationship.

 

[southern.girl]

Shhhhh we'll just see how it all plays out.
But these dudes expect chicks to finance their entire lives, support them, pay all the bills, do everything, expect nothing in return and all they bring to the table is dikk and promises at the end of the day...and wanna run shyt.



"Nah story short as fukk, this nikka ain't paid a bill in 6 months!"


Edit: That nikka had a 8pm curfew!!!!!!!

This is a got damn mess. These dudes are straight up delusional but think that they are equipped to lead a whole family. Like breh, you can't even lead your own life.

 

[Ya?]

If i was going through ahrd time and a chick had my back i would respect her....
you're telling me you don't respect people you date if they are willing to help you?

jesus... what is a relationship for then if not for helping each other grow and become better?

I guess if a nikkas money aint looking right he should break up with his girl and vice versa?

Nah he should bring himself up to a standard that his respectable as a man. He ain’t sick, or disabled, that’s pathetic and disgusting.

 

[semicko82]

Women are a trip, they want the dude they find attractive to simp on them and have his shyt together knowing damn well he has plenty of options. You can’t have it both ways. This lady is attractive enough to have plenty of lames to simp on her a$$ but she chose the dusty bum. That’s what women want , the right to choose who they want to screw. What’s the point of criticizing her, this is what she wanted.

 

[Samori Toure]

I've never actually seen this play out in real life. Black college dudes with a good head on their shoulders don't have issues attracting black women at all. Plenty of black couples on college campuses.

I saw it all the time especially for dudes that didn't have money.