Uganda is worried about the number of Chinese men marrying their women

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Slavery in China - Wikipedia

In case you don't trust links: "Indian, Malay, and Black African slaves were also sold to the Chinese." this was during the Tang dynasty aforementioned and continued into the Song.

WHKMLA : Slavery in Imperial China

"(6). By the ninth century the Arabs had established a sizable community in Guanzhou, and local residents would have been able to see African slaves in Arab households and on trading ships. Some of the wealthy Chinese owned African slaves themselves, whom they kept as doormen. The term for such black people was kunlun (
kunlun.GIF
). This mysterious and poorly understood word first applied to dark-skinned Chinese and then expanded over time to encompass multiple meanings, all connoting dark skin (7). The Kunlun is mentioned in many fictional works during the Tang dynasty. Some of them describe the Kunlun as having supernatural powers, while others view them similarly to any other slave. A famous romance novel in China is "The Kunlun Slave", written in 880 CE by Pei Xing, which stars a faithful Kunlun who uses his supernatural powers to save his master's lover from the harem of a court official (8). The following is the plot of the novel"

http://library.uoregon.edu/ec/e-asia/read/tangslave-3.pdf

Pretty sure they were there before Ming. :|
So basically you're talkinga bout the Zanj period. Arab slave trade - Wikipedia

Those were c00n somalis selling bantu slaves to arabs, those arabs then made them soliders and slaves, they gave a handful of slave as gifts to the chinese emperor. That is not the same as China conducting slavery. China did not reach Africa under the accord of their own govt until Ming. Europe knew about slaves and came to get some for themselves, the chinese preferred trade. They barely enslaved the people around them, their were scores of brown asians they could have taken as slaves, instead they built a wall. China did not practice slavery with the exception of some korean women being taken. Majority of their time was spent fighting off barbarians trying to enter the country, such as the Mongols. Literally a history that is polar opposite of Europe.
 

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So basically you're talkinga bout the Zanj period. Arab slave trade - Wikipedia

Those were c00n somalis selling bantu slaves to arabs, those arabs then made them soliders and slaves, they gave a handful of slave as gifts to the chinese emperor. That is not the same as China conducting slavery. China did not reach Africa under the accord of their own govt until Ming. Europe knew about slaves and came to get some for themselves, the chinese preferred trade. They barely enslaved the people around them, their were scores of brown asians they could have taken as slaves, instead they built a wall. China did not practice slavery with the exception of some korean women being taken. Majority of their time was spent fighting off barbarians trying to enter the country, such as the Mongols. Literally a history that is polar opposite of Europe.

I must be slow because I'm not understanding your issue. I never said that the MING dynasty did not play a role BUT to act as if the Chinese were ignorant to the enslavement of Africans is a fallacy. The post I made, clearly stated that ARABS were the ones that handled dealings with African slaves BUT because the Tang and Song dynasties were pretty huge as far as trade is concerned, they did interact with Arabs THUS there were Black African Slaves in parts of China. So, did you read the links or nah? They clearly state the presence of Black African Slaves in China and the introduction from the Arabs....all of which I stated in my initial post. I never denied what you're posting...simply the time period and the prevalence. But alright...
 

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Also the Chinese don't have to take over Uganda, they'd happy to be the market dominant minority

They have been doing this all over the globe..even in other Southeast Asian countries like Malaysia,Vietnam, Thailand and Myanmar
Matter of fact y'all should read up on how Chinese were able to take over Myanmar in less than a decade
Thousands of new Chinese immigrants were buying papers of deceased Burmese people for the low low to become citizens

:heh:



Coming into Africa and buying the fukking newspaper of South Africa is an act of imperialism...

Why China is making a big play to control Africa's media
When one of South Africa’s biggest newspaper chains was sold last month, an odd name was buried in the list of new owners: China International Television Corp.

A major stake in a South African newspaper group might seem an unusual acquisition for Chinese state television, but it was no mystery to anyone who has watched the rapid expansion of China’s media empire across Africa.

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I am starting to Africans are just used to be colonized and ran by other people....

Interesting
 

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I must be slow because I'm not understanding your issue. I never said that the MING dynasty did not play a role BUT to act as if the Chinese were ignorant to the enslavement of Africans is a fallacy. The post I made, clearly stated that ARABS were the ones that handled dealings with African slaves BUT because the Tang and Song dynasties were pretty huge as far as trade is concerned, they did interact with Arabs THUS there were Black African Slaves in parts of China. So, did you read the links or nah? They clearly state the presence of Black African Slaves in China and the introduction from the Arabs....all of which I stated in my initial post. I never denied what you're posting...simply the time period and the prevalence. But alright...
It's ok. I can just rewind what you said.

We definitely have though. The Chinese (and a lot of other Eastern Asian countries...you don't hear about them as much because China has pretty much ruled Eastern Asians countries) have a pretty sordid history concerning the enslavement of Africans. During the Tang and Song dynasties, Africans were being shipped back and forth...primarily from areas like Madagascar and Morocco. A lot of it was indirect trade with Arabs as well. It's tricky because this was during the A.D periods and like a lot of Asian countries, even the western ones, free Africans were treated with "respect". Still not on the level of the Chinese but definitely better than enslaved Africans. I think people tend to forget this because this type of slavery pretty much occurred throughout history...kingdoms/leaders trade people for monetary gain. The Chinese didn't really need Africans to keep their economy strong...it was more of a "we get them because we can and it's free labor" but make NO mistake that they still played a huge role in the East African Slave trade right along with Arabs.

BUT you feel the way you feel. I just think we should be clear about were we lie with certain communities. Don't get comfortable with stuff like this.
False narrative. They didn't play a huge role in shyt. That is inaccurate. They were given a dozen gifts and it states right there in Zhangs journal, and thats about as much as it extended. There was no back and forth of anything, goods were transferred via the Arabs/East Africans, but nothing on a large scale, humans weren't migrating that damn fast in 800s. Trade was still slow up until sea navigation was mastered and that was around 1300-1400 and even then, no slaves obtained by the chinese nor sold to them directly.

China also didn't control most of east asia. they traded with most of it, but they didn't conquer it, the hans were a sprawled out tribe and they unified and solidified their territory around Song. They had some skirmishes with Koreans and Vietnamese but nothing like a Napolean. You probably think it was a conquest but it was a unification.
 

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It's ok. I can just rewind what you said.


False narrative. They didn't play a huge role in shyt. That is inaccurate. They were given a dozen gifts and it states right there in Zhangs journal, and thats about as much as it extended. There was no back and forth of anything, goods were transferred via the Arabs/East Africans, but nothing on a large scale, humans weren't migrating that damn fast in 800s. Trade was still slow up until sea navigation was mastered and that was around 1300-1400 and even then, no slaves obtained by the chinese nor sold to them directly.

China also didn't control most of east asia. they traded with most of it, but they didn't conquer it, the hans were a sprawled out tribe and they unified and solidified their territory around Song. They had some skirmishes with Koreans and Vietnamese but nothing like a Napolean. You probably think it was a conquest but it was a unification.

Once again, you aren't explaining how I was inaccurate. It only a question of prevalence. From my standpoint, I consider trade a HUGE deal. I never said it was a matter of harshness or subjugating the entire Black race- just that Chinese had a big presence, imo with East Africa, Arabs are parts of the the slave trade. I'm still not understanding the issue here.
 

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Once again, you aren't explaining how I was inaccurate. It only a question of prevalence. From my standpoint, I consider trade a HUGE deal. I never said it was a matter of harshness or subjugating the entire Black race- just that Chinese had a big presence, imo with East Africa, Arabs are parts of the the slave trade. I'm still not understanding the issue here.
Ok, now we're just going in circles.

1. They had no presence. No trade. We have established that they were given a dozen or so slave gifts by the arabs...once. Song never came to Africa.

2. Even during Ming, no big presence, they went on a voyage, traded twice, and that was that.

3. Great Zimbabwe did some trading with them, no slaves, all goods.

sigh.
 

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Algeria deports hundreds of West African migrants to Niger


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Algerian authorities have deported hundreds of West African migrants to Niger this week, trucking them thousands of miles across the desert in one of the biggest roundups seen this year
, according to officials and human rights groups.

Algeria has often sent migrants back to Niger since 2014 as the number of people taking the dangerous route to Europe from West Africa has swelled. But the latest group is different because it involves people from across the region, not just Niger, officials said, suggesting a more determined effort to remove immigrants.

Over the last two days, at least 1,000 migrants came in a convoy of about 50 trucks to Agadez in central Niger, a desert town where migrants from all over West Africa pay smugglers to take them on the treacherous journey north through the Sahara, according to officials in Agadez, the International Organization for Migration (IOM) and Human Rights Watch.

"They are about 1,000, 271 from Niger, the rest from West African countries, mainly Mali and Guinea Conakry," said Giuseppe Loprete, the head of IOM's mission in Niger.
Algerian and Nigerien authorities were not immediately available for comment.

The IOM, which has a holding center in Agadez where migrants from across the region are housed and fed, is not directly involved in the latest deportation, as it was not contacted by Algerian or Nigerien authorities to help, Loprete said.

The migrants are instead being housed on the outskirts of town, said Isatou Abdou, who works for the U.N.'s human rights arm in Agadez. She could not immediately confirm the numbers.

According to a Human Rights Watch report released on Friday, over 1,400 migrants have been forcibly deported from Algeria this month. Many were rounded up in the capital Algiers and bused to Agadez, over 1,600 miles (2,600 km) south.

"A mass and summary deportation of migrants, including men and women who may have fled persecution or have worked for years in Algeria, would violate their rights," said Sarah Leah Whitson, Middle East and North Africa director at Human Rights Watch.

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Refugees and Migrants Spread AIDS and Other STDs: Algerian Official


On December 5, the president of Algeria’s human rights commission told “Essawt El Akher” that “the presence of migrants and refugees in various parts of the country can cause problems to Algerians,” adding that their presence “could risk the spread of AIDS and other sexually transmitted diseases.”

“That disease is widespread” within that community, he continues, saying African migrants should be deported “to stop this catastrophe that is imposed on us.”

The statement was incredibly controversial and was criticized in the nation and abroad, especially as there is no shortage of African refugees and migrants in Algeria.

According to the Human Rights Watch (HRW), the number of sub-Saharan migrants in Algeria ranges from 60,000 to 100,000.

On Friday, the HRW released a report demanding that Algerian authorities halt the mass deportations currently taking place.

“Algerian authorities since December 1, 2016,” says the report, “have rounded up more than 1,400 sub-Saharan migrants and reportedly deported at least several hundred across the border into Niger.”

According to the same source, migrants were rounded up “in and around Algiers, the capital, and bused […] 1,900 kilometers south to a camp in Tamanrasset, from which some were bused into Niger.”

In its efforts to remove refugees and other sub-Saharan migrants from Algerian territory, the country is going against both the 1951 Refugee Convention and the International Convention on the Protection of the Rights of All Migrant Workers and Members of their Families, both of which protect the rights of refugees and migrants.

Meanwhile, HRW Director of the MENA region Sarah Leah Whitson says, “The right of a country to control its borders is not a license for lawlessness.”

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Ok, now we're just going in circles.

1. They had no presence. No trade. We have established that they were given a dozen or so slave gifts by the arabs...once. Song never came to Africa.

2. Even during Ming, no big presence, they went on a voyage, traded twice, and that was that.

3. Great Zimbabwe did some trading with them, no slaves, all goods.

sigh.

Lol, okay. The only thing we've established is that we have a difference of opinion based on readings. That's fine. You have a good one.
 

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So I had a Ugandan friend look up some stats in his language on how popular this is, and from what he can see, there have only been about 12 cases documented, less than 12 biracial children.

and this is in comparison to the chinese who have over 2,000 african-chinese children in China.

But it's a take over, and they are taking over Ugandan women. Right. :mjlol:

When AAs attempt to speak on the continent, lolz are rest assured. :laff:

I agree, I am not trying to argue the Chinese should have a free hand in the motherland but people should know in Guangzhou there are about 100k African brehs (many illegally) with mad Blasian children (2,000 is an understatement, trust me I used to live in China). China has thus far not done mass expulsions due to the desire to keep a good face to Africa. These guys are learning the game in China and may be our best shot to be China at it's own game. But they will be kicked out if we kick out the Chinese. Not saying we shouldn't enforce border controls--Ghana did well kicking out the illegal Chinese gold miners--but everything ain't so damn simple. China has actually slowed its roll since the commodity price crash so Africa has breathing room.

I would be more worried about why Africa let the Chinese build the AFRICAN UNION headquarters or what kind of rights they have on the new railway in Kenya rather than giving a flip about who they are fukking. I mean, really.
 

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Call this a while ago

Annoyed during the briefing, Zhong Weidong, managing director of the company, told the panel,China assists African countries to develop. If you don’t like, it can stop; we can stop.”



:francis: they have the power now. .....while creating bluffer class/group with they mixed African -Asian kids that have money and legit power



Another L for the whole diaspora to look at

Which is exactly what happened in Latin America, the Chinese taking a page from the white man's playbook. Get 'em hooked on that dope, get engrained in their system, now Uganda's f*cked. 'Bout to be a bunch of Shaka Chin Lee's in their parliament :francis: Hope all them bribes was worth forever changing your country's DNA makeup :francis:
 
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