Was Atlanta influenced by the West Coast in the early 1990's

[West Coast Avenger]

Talking general, not hip hop. Most of that influence is in the past for obvious reasons. And if we wanna talk more recent, Southern car culture has spread its way out west for a minute now.

.....California car culture has never been influenced by the south...it's always been it's own thing....

 

[West Coast Avenger]

Lingo, dreads. I remember when cash money started running things in the late 90's and early 2000's, there was alot these clicks in high schools calling themselves headbussas, cash money ballers,. You can also mention lil jon influence on the modern cali sound like DJ Mustard, Sorry Jarnari and those guys.

There is alot of reaching with this post....

 

[Whogivesafuck]

james was aware of new orleans influenced drummers but he didn't get his sound from the meters. The Meters have that classic 2nd line sound...james brown was on some other revolutionizing shyt musically




also, dyke and the blazers were influenced by james brown

I'm well aware dyke was influence by James brown and Jr Walker. But for"Funky Broadway" to come out a year before Cold Sweat speaks volume. I look at him as more of a contemporary then a imitator as you are implying. As far as The meters influence on Brown it come from the downbeat groove. This is more noticeable in his post 67 music. JB took some elements and improved upon them.

 

[Whogivesafuck]

There is alot of reaching with this post....

 

[ignorethis]

Yes. Most of the south was but they'll deny it

Snoop got his style from hanging out with Big Mike and Mr. 3-2, historical fact.

Death Row Records was an idea J. Prince threw to Harry-O as a bone, fact.

 

[Premeditated]

I swear I had this thought lastnight while listening to ATLiens and Aquemini high as hell. They were basically rapping about the same subject matter that Too Short and other Bay rappers from earlier were talking about but with better rapping. I don't know if they were influenced but I got the same vibes

 

[Biscayne]

Right.

Idk about the braids or the clothing part, first time I’ve heard that, but that funk sound that everyone associates with the west was definitely Midwest derived.

The closest thing I’d say that the west had to an “original” sound was that 1950’s R&B sound(T-Bone Walker, Johnny “Guitar” Watson, Charles Brown, etc) which was basically an extension of the Blues coming out of East Texas and Louisiana.

Define "original sound" funk as a genre came from down south even though bootsy, ohio players, etc came from the midwest. Technically only The South had an "original" sound by that logic.

 

[Biscayne]

I moved to ATL in the 90s with my parents and the answer is yes. They were influenced especially by the Bay. Too Short was living here and had alot of Bay Area cats repping. When i was in middle school 93-94, cats was listening to Rappin 4tay and Spice One. nikkas in ATL was bumping Oakland music and booty shake from Miami like Jam Pony and Uncle Al. They had old school Impalas and Chevy's on vogues. On the fashion side, nikkas was wearing dikkie Suits, Kangols and chucks. ATL always been a weird mixture of Florida and Oakland up until recently.

Yeah, those dikkie suits were a Miami Original. I didn't realize how heavy Miami influenced Atlanta until a couple years ago.

 

[Biscayne]

Most of those Ohio funk bands were influenced by James because King records (his label) was based in Ohio. Bootsy , Fred Wesley and them were actually in James Brown band.

Exactly. Funk music came from down south, the Midwest elevated it and took it to new heights, and the westcoast elevated it even further(most of those midwest funk bands headed out west and joined an already established LA music scene).

 

[im_sleep]

.....California car culture has never been influenced by the south...it's always been it's own thing....

Where did I say it isn’t it’s own thing?


All I’m saying is a lot of folks out west been hooking there rides up like they do down south, especially since the early 2000’s. Both styles coexist.

 

[Oceanicpuppy]

Yes and no

Atlanta was and still is a transient city.

However Atlanta uniquely has decades worth of black history and culture that no city On the west coast can compete with.

If you really think about, the west coast ( I love the west coast and the people ) doesn't have enough black folks to really cultivate black culture that's exclusive.

If you credit the west coast for these things you ultimately have credits other ethnicities and cultures as well.


I say this with respect to both the west coast and Atlanta.

The correct answer is black people not a region. Lol

 

[Biscayne]

Lingo, dreads. I remember when cash money started running things in the late 90's and early 2000's, there was alot these clicks in high schools calling themselves headbussas, cash money ballers,. You can also mention lil jon influence on the modern cali sound like DJ Mustard, Sorry Jarnari and those guys.

DJ mustard was mostly influenced by The Bay. His beats sound like Mobb music from the 90's and a little bit like old school Mac Dre.

 

[Oceanicpuppy]

The South is the root so technically as far as American culture goes you can trace everything to somewhere in the south.

More reason ATL >

Lol there's a James Brown song where he is shading California specifically LA.
He says " What really I dig about it, everybody here is from down home" the band members state were they are from. He is cracking on where people are from.
All of them are from the south or Midwest.


Starts @ 7:00

LA shade starts at 7:57

 

[Biscayne]

Snoop got his style from hanging out with Big Mike and Mr. 3-2, historical fact.

Death Row Records was an idea J. Prince threw to. Harry-O as a bone, fact.

Never knew this. I didn't know J.Prince was the one who connected Suge to HarryO. So snoop and them were just chilling out in Houston early on in like '91? Just chillin with Big Mike and Mr.3-2?

 

[BigMan]

DJ mustard was mostly influenced by The Bay. His beats sound like Mobb music from the 90's and a little bit like old school Mac Dre.

there's definetely interviews of him saying he was influneced by lil jon too