Was Atlanta influenced by the West Coast in the early 1990's

[Apollo Creed]

I always felt that we were overlooked in this aspect

I disagree with his statement being that there were ATL artist like Kilo ali who mixed social commentary with party music.

 

[Poitier]

I disagree with his statement being that there were ATL artist like Kilo ali who mixed social commentary with party music.

my shyt

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Hip Hop consist of 4 element's one being started in the south.

Breh who really knows where rapping started?

 

[Apollo Creed]

Yup.

Zapp, Lakeside, Slave, etc etc.

Ohio gets left out these conversations way too often.

Hell the whole Minneapolis Funk scene is crazy. I wouldnt say the midwest is slept on as we acknowledge what came out the midwest but we dont credit their innovation to georgraphy like we do with the other regions.

 

[Poitier]

a female Snoop clone

Snoop is a Slick Rick clone

 

[Aphrodite]

West >

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Every region of America does, we all come from the south ultimately.

You mean mostly AAs

 

[Apollo Creed]

Breh who really knows where rapping started?

Rapping as we know it in its current form vs rapping in its raw pure form.

Lol the ancestors were doing call and response to drums in Africa, so that is the root (it its rawest purest form), and then that was built upon in the South with the various music forms and then id argue In the BX they blended the music forms one more time give us rap.

James Brown is from Augusta Ga and many would agree he is the pre cursor to Rap and Augusta is 2 hrs from ATL so we win again

 

[BrothaZay]

Am I the only one who feels like West coast has more in common with the midwest than the south?

Maybe its just a city by city basis, but outside of Texas, and maybe its surrounding states, south nikkas and west coast nikkas act nothing alike

 

[Poitier]

Yup.

Zapp, Lakeside, Slave, etc etc.

Ohio gets left out these conversations way too often.

Even the aesthetic which I never really thought about :

Funk is Midwestern, the whole Cali got it's sound from the Midwest.
Pigtails (dayton braids).
Dayton rims.
Wearing workers clothes.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Snoop is a Slick Rick clone

I see why you say that but he really wasn't. Rappers like Dana Dane and even Will Smith copied the hell outta Slick Rick. Only thing really similar about Snoop was the laid back conversational flow. Da Brat on the other hand was just like Snoop at first. Funkdafied was clearly biting off G Thang with her and Jermaine Dupri trying to sound like Dre and Snoop

 

[im_sleep]

I dont disagree. NYC had an established black society that looked at these other cats like country bumpkins. I’d argue this is what makes blacks in the other hotspots more “closer” to each other.

Most AAs born in the 50s to early 90s had a grandparent from the south, but in the NE you would probably see more cases of people whos grand and great grand parents were from those areas.

I think outer influences factor as well.

Take Chicago for example. Been having Black folks in heavy numbers since the 20’s just like NYC yet they still seem “country”. But it makes sense when you have decades of hyper segregation with a strictly Southern AA population, compared to NY where you have a Southern AA population mixing into a native Northern population, plus West Indians, Latinos, etc.

I see a kinda similar thing happening out west in the present. IMO there’s a big difference in the generation that was coming out the South or just a generation removed who grew up in majority Black neighborhoods compared to the younger generations who grow up in more mixed neighborhoods nowadays.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Im not well versed on Chicago but from my knowledge of history. NYC in particular Harlem, Detroit, and Chicago seemed to he the main hotspots where blacks were going.

Culturally from what I can see all three cities had their own thing going on but didnt seem too different from each other. Even listening to music I didnt notice distinct differences until the end of disco/ transitioning into the 80s. Maybe because the 80s we see a transition from live bands and technology becoming more prominent in making music?

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a little bit later/same time period in NY

 

[Apollo Creed]

Am I the only one who feels like West coast has more in common with the midwest than the south?

Maybe its just a city by city basis, but outside of Texas, and maybe its surrounding states, south nikkas and west coast nikkas act nothing alike

Bruh the midwest is country as hell lol. If we being real Norcal cats are way diff than Socal cats to even group the west coast together.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Rapping as we know it in its current form vs rapping in its raw pure form.

Lol the ancestors were doing call and response to drums in Africa, so that is the root (it its rawest purest form), and then that was built upon in the South with the various music forms and then id argue In the BX they blended the music forms one more time give us rap.

James Brown is from Augusta Ga and many would agree he is the pre cursor to Rap and Augusta is 2 hrs from ATL so we win again

Yea that's what Im saying. I don't think one region in particular can say rapping in itself started there. If we do that we gotta take it back to Africa