"Why DR. DRE gave 35 MILLION to "white" USC as opposed to an HBCU?-Dr. Boyce Watkins

[spliz]

nobody said that black kids were excluded from going there. the bottom line is that THEYRE NOT THERE!!!!

im not even stressin the hbcu chit. im saying, with all the money he has, hes better off starting his own center. instead, hes just handing his money over to . but hey, its his money. im just saying, don't get mad when someone states the obvious.

@ the bolded: I don't see the correlation. please explain how black people complaining about MJ, keeps black folks at the bottom of the barrel.

Because BLACK people always counting each others money...instead of living they life and letting other people live theirs...thats how the MJ thing correlates..and who the fukk told u that black people don't go to USC?..and the reason he didnt start a center is cause HE DIDNT WANT TO...who fukkin cares man?..let him live...bottom line it's not a white school...it's a diverse school...plenty of black people go there and get opportunities...

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

no. I was referring to you going hard all up-n-down this thread before I even said anything. this isn't your issue.

and I never claimed to be an expert on California. but I know that theres tons of stories that we hear that aint going on nowhere else like that, yet yall in here claiming to live in racial harmony. that's the point dikkhead.

I didn't go all up and down anything, you got angry I got dapped up. You said it yourself.

No one said it was racial harmony cuz there is no such thing. This isn't Disney land its a small world but as far as 'stories' you are reading on the Internet they are isolated, few and far between, and involve gang members fighting over the same money/drugs/turf. It aint no fukking race war or 'the worst race relations in the country' like you claimed, remember you are reading shyt on the Internet. You don't know 'anything' except what you've read on the Internet.

and I don't even know what this cold crush drivel is about. I guess its just you being a weirdo as usual.

and im gonna say this one last time: hip-hop is not no f*ckin American culture. its anti-American culture. its black culture. go find your own chit to leech off of. I cant stand people like you. on some real chit. f*ckin leeches. you like hip-hop? fine. enjoy it. have fun. but stop trying to steal chit on the slick.

Hip Hop isn't American culture? lol okay. I am trying to 'steal it' because I said it was something that was started in America, in an American city? LOL. I'd point out it can be Black culture and American culture at the same time but it seems too much for you to handle. I wouldn't want to push out any of the wikipedia knowledge you got from the 80s so you can battle witts on a message board. Or any of your top 48 "illest uses of hi hats" type threads.

You know exactly what Im talking about with the way you fake being a first hand 80s Hip Hop head when you weren't even old enough to witness 'chit' Stop playing yourself and stop trying to be an expert of Southern California if you don't even live in the area.

 

[Wacky D]

I didn't go all up and down anything, you got angry I got dapped up. You said it yourself.

No one said it was racial harmony cuz there is no such thing. This isn't Disney land its a small world but as far as 'stories' you are reading on the Internet they are isolated, few and far between, and involve gang members fighting over the same money/drugs/turf. It aint no fukking race war or 'the worst race relations in the country' like you claimed, remember you are reading shyt on the Internet. You don't know 'anything' except what you've read on the Internet.

Hip Hop isn't American culture? lol okay. I am trying to 'steal it' because I said it was something that was started in America, in an American city? LOL. I'd point out it can be Black culture and American culture at the same time but it seems too much for you to handle. I wouldn't want to push out any of the wikipedia knowledge you got from the 80s so you can battle witts on a message board. Or any of your top 48 "illest uses of hi hats" type threads.

You know exactly what Im talking about with the way you fake being a first hand 80s Hip Hop head when you weren't even old enough to witness 'chit' Stop playing yourself and stop trying to be an expert of Southern California if you don't even live in the area.

why are you rambling off about '80s hip-hop and all this other chit? what does this have to do with anything? this is what im saying. youre out of place in this thread man. yet, youre one of the main people arguing for some reason.

and for the record, I never claimed to be some sort of '80s guru. that's you always talking out your @$$ and saying that bullchit. YOU are the one that thinks im an '80s guru. not me. otherwise you wouldn't constantly say it and you wouldn't randomly mention it out the blue, like youre doing right now.

its like youre holding a grudge and I don't know why. don't be mad at me because you grew up hearing bon jovi in your household and didn't discover hip-hop until high school. that's what this weird agenda you have against me is all about.

and dudes already checked you about that "American culture" bullchit. don't come crying to me when you talk that chit to the wrong person offline and they smack the chit out of you.

now, to get somewhat back on topic, Asian gangs & Mexican gangs that emulate black people, yet hate them are not isolated incidents.

and I don't care about you getting daps. I usually don't even pay you any attention. my problem is that I was disappointed with a couple specific people being in agreement with what you were saying. its not about you. youre a non-factor.

Because BLACK people always counting each others money...instead of living they life and letting other people live theirs...thats how the MJ thing correlates..and who the fukk told u that black people don't go to USC?..and the reason he didnt st[art a center is cause HE DIDNT WANT TO...who fukkin cares man?..let him live...bottom line it's not a white school...it's a diverse school...plenty of black people go there and get opportunities...

@ the bolded. I never said that. the bottom line is that black people are like the lowest minority theres. like I said, he basically handed 35 million dollars back to the white man. and you know this spliz.

counting other people's money isn't my thing but that has nothing to do with black people being at the bottom. its not stopping anybody's flow. but handing 8 figures over to white folks like its water.......yes that can be attributed to such.

and yes, like ive said about 15 times already. its his money. he can do what he wants. but don't get mad when people call out the obvious. my gripe is moreso with the people acting as if what that Watkins cat said was wrong.

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

"can't even date a nice latina girl without beef"


dudes really thinking that LA is like GTA San Andreas, or the Florencia episode of gangland.

 

[Dog Based Gremlin]

Dillard President Asks Dr. Dre Why He Gave $35 Million to USC and Not a Black College | AllHipHop.com



Dr. Dre is one of the most successful entertainers in history, earning hundreds of millions of dollars by making great music. Much of this music moves because he has been able to successfully package urban/black culture, selling it to audiences around the world. One of the questions some have about those who readily use their blackness for profit is the following: What are you giving back to those who gave you so much?

It’s hard to know exactly what Dr. Dre is doing for the black community, but we all know where he made his greatest gift. Dr. Dre and music producer Jimmy Lovine recently announced a whopping $70 million dollar donation to USC to create a new degree. The program is one that pulls together liberal arts, graphic arts, business, music and technology. Dr. Dre’s donation is the largest ever given by any African American in history, and oddly enough, the money is going into the hands of rich white people.

As I prepared to give the commencement address at Simmons College, a growing HBCU in Kentucky with a very rich history, I heard a story about a group of ex-slaves who pooled their money to buy four acres of land so they could educate future generations. Without sacrifices like these, the school would not be giving so much to the community today. The school’s extraordinary president, Dr. Kevin Cosby, has not taken a paycheck for his work for the last eight years and readily speaks of how the school is located in one of the poorest districts in America. He sees his contribution as a chance to lift up the community around him, rather than simply milk the community’s resources.

If I could transplant Dr. Cosby’s brain into Dr. Dre’s body, black America would be changed forever. Also, had those ex-slaves been naive enough to give all of their money to the big white university down the street, the impact of their contribution would be minimal at best. One of the reasons that black Americans struggle economically is because we’ve been locked out of economic opportunities, while massive institutions like USC hoard the wealth to protect their own (take a look at the very low percentage of African Americans they hire or admit as students). Simultaneously, when we do have access to the resources necessary to begin our building process, we don’t feel inclined to support those who look like us. That’s the difference between the black and the Jewish communities: They teach their children to generously target their resources to protect them against oppression.

Some may argue that Dr. Dre can do whatever he wants with his money, and this point is valid: No one has the right to tell any of us what to do – a child has no obligation to care about his mother, a husband has no real obligation to provide for his wife, the list goes on and on. But the truth is that if you choose not to care about your community, then don’t expect your community to care about you. Black people have always been incredibly loyal and supportive of Dr. Dre, particularly those who made him the defacto King of Compton and Long Beach. It would seem that his greatest economic gift should go to them instead.

Another person who had something to say about the gift is Dillard University president, Walter M. Kimbrough. Dr. Kimbrough was once the youngest president of any HBCU in the country and proudly considers himself to be a part of the hip-hop generation. In an op-ed in the LA Times, Kimbrough openly asks Dre why he chose to give so much money to USC, as opposed to one of the struggling HBCUs that really could have used those resources:


I understood their need to build a pool of skilled talent. But why at USC? Iovine’s daughter is an alum, sure. And he just gave its commencement address. Andre Young — before he was Dr. Dre — grew up in nearby Compton, where he rose to fame as part of the rap group N.W.A. The Beats headquarters are on L.A.’s Westside.



Still, what if Dre had given $35 million — his half of the USC gift and about 10% of his wealth, according to a Forbes estimate — to an institution that enrolls the very people who supported his career from the beginning? An institution where the majority of students are low-income? A place where $35 million would represent a truly transformational gift?

Dr. Kimbrough is absolutely correct. USC’s endowment is over $3.5 billion, which gives this school more money than every single HBCU in America combined. Even more stunning is that the school’s endowment isn’t even in the top 20 in the nation. The point here, and I hope Dr. Dre understands this, is that white people have plenty of money and they aren’t going to use that money to help people who look like you. They don’t exactly need black people making donations, since they’ve already earned over a billion dollars from their African American athletes, many of whom have mothers who can’t even pay the rent.

Even worse is that much of this wealth was accumulated on the backs of slaves and black people who were locked out of the economic system. Schools like USC make it diffcult for black students to gain admission and even more difficult for black faculty to get jobs. The university sits down the street from South Central Los Angeles, a virtual war zone where prisons and funeral homes get rich from all the young black men being fed into the prison industrial complex. USC doesn’t use many of its resources to help these individuals, it simply uses Dr. Dre’s money to build higher walls so they can protect the rich white kids from the scary black ones.



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Black students at USC protest police harassment during a recent party on campus

I wonder if Dr. Dre knows that not only does USC admit very few black students, but the ones who are there are subject to serious racism and racial profiling. During a recent campus party, the LAPD sent over 70 police officers in riot gear with a helicopter to break up the party after noise complaints. All the while, the white kids were partying up in their fraternity houses without so much as a peep from the police.

Additionally, for Dr. Dre, his $35 million dollar donation (half of the $70 million he is sharing with Levin) is merely a drop in the bucket for a school like USC that is sitting on an amount of money that no HBCU will have for at least another 100 years. USC shed no tears when Dr. Dre’s baby brother was murdered in the violence that has poisoned the black community. They did nothing when his son died from an overdose on the drugs that were dropped into black communities in the 1980s. HBCUs have scholars working to solve these problems, and thousands of students who will graduate to fight for black America. USC does NOT.

Dr. Kimbrough goes even further to explain why USC was a questionable donation target for someone who grew up as a struggling black kid in South Central Los Angeles.


USC is a great institution, no question. But it has a $3.5-billion endowment, the 21st largest in the nation and much more than every black college — combined. Less than 20% of USC’s student body qualifies for federal Pell Grants, given to students from low-income families, compared with two-thirds of those enrolled at black colleges. USC has also seen a steady decrease in black student enrollment, which is now below 5%.

A new report on black male athletes and racial inequities shows that only 2.2% of USC undergrads are black men, compared with 56% of its football and basketball teams, one of the largest disparities in the nation. And given USC’s $45,602 tuition next year, I’m confident Dre could have sponsored multiple full-ride scholarships to private black colleges for the cost of one at USC.

Dr. Kimbrough made a courageous decision to write this article. There are some who might criticize him as a “hater” or argue with his right to question what Dr. Dre does with his money. But I’m not talking to those people right now. Instead, we must look at the facts: Dr. Dre, a man who has made hundreds of millions of dollars selling back urban culture to the world has made his largest donation to a predominately white university that doesn’t need the money and rarely admits black students unless they can play a sport. I love Dr. Dre’s music, but I am dying to ask my good brother, “What were you thinking?”

By the way, as schools like USC have gotten rich from black athletes, HBCUs can barely pay the bills. All the while, almost none of this money is returned to the black community, and multi-million dollar USC athletes like Reggie Bush have their integrity questioned for receiving a few hundred dollars under the table. The fact is that these schools rob black people blind, don’t give hardly anything to the black community, and laugh at the fact that we are ridiculous enough to turn around and give money back. If I were the president of USC, I’d be giggling under my breath and wondering how a group of people can have such little respect for themselves.

I think this is what some in the dotcom era might call an “SMH moment.” Dr. Dre is a brilliant producer, but this move just doesn’t make any sense. I hope he has something to say.

 

[ltheghost]

He gave the money to where he felt it would be the most beneficial. It's his money and get would rather give it to USC then some HBCU. That's it. End of the discussion. And you wonder why he didn't give the money to an HBCU? He probably didn't want to deal this shyt like this in the first place. "Why only 35 million?" Dre has his own reasons for donating and that is that. It's good to see he is investing in education in America. I don't care what school it is at, it is good to see a successful Black Man giving back to his community. So many don't make it. So instead of wondering why he didn't give money to an HBCU, just use as motivation to give money to them when you make it.

 

[Wacky D]

He gave the money to where he felt it would be the most beneficial. It's his money and get would rather give it to USC then some HBCU. That's it. End of the discussion. And you wonder why he didn't give the money to an HBCU? He probably didn't want to deal this shyt like this in the first place. "Why only 35 million?" Dre has his own reasons for donating and that is that. It's good to see he is investing in education in America. I don't care what school it is at, it is good to see a successful Black Man giving back to his community. So many don't make it. So instead of wondering why he didn't give money to an HBCU, just use as motivation to give money to them when you make it.

giving money to usc IS NOT giving back to the community.

yall need to stop saying that chit.

 

[Nigerianwonder]

For those criticizing and counting his money how do yall know he is done giving back? Did he say he would never donate to another school other than USC? This is just one donation. Maybe next year or sometime in the future he would donate more. However, if he was thinking about giving to an hbcu in the future he prob wont be inclined to do as much now to the personal attacks if he takes them personal. He made over 100 million last year alone from headphones. I'm sure his philanthropy in his lifetime will not end with the USC donation. If an hbcu wants to put together a similar music program and get funding for it why not make a formal proposal to him rather than trash him for what he is doing with his money elsewhere. Might be too late now though. Kats cant see the forest for the trees sometimes.

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

giving money to usc IS NOT giving back to the community.

yall need to stop saying that chit.

is USC, and it's faculty/students/alumni/programs not apart of the community?

do people from the LA area not go to USC?

would you feel better if he donated that money to Centennial High? or would you still complain cause there are 2x as many latinos that go there as blacks?


y'all kill me with your nonsensical parameters for what constitutes "giving back"

y'all act like if you're not passing out turkeys in the hood on thanksgiving, or having toy drives for poor blacks it doesn't count.

 

[ltheghost]

giving money to usc IS NOT giving back to the community.

yall need to stop saying that chit.

So where is his community? I thought he lived in LA? Or at least Cali. Or maybe the HBCU that he went to in California. Oh wait. Now that I think about it, what does he owe to any HBCU to give any money to? Did they create Hip Hop? It's his money he can do with it whatever he wants.

 

[Dzali OG]

Not trying to be in the nikkas pockets but people have a point...

Black people will forever be last because when someone black "makes it" they don't do what the rich people from other races do. A rich Jew or Cac or Latino may give to a cause outside their race....but be SURE....COTDAYUM SURE...they gonna make sho they look out for their race even MORE.

 

[jwinfield]

at giving money to a school in the city you grew up in not giving back to the community

Black people will forever be last because when someone black "makes it" they don't do what the rich people from other races do. A rich Jew or Cac or Latino may give to a cause outside their race....but be SURE....COTDAYUM SURE...they gonna make sho they look out for their race even MORE.

Are the jews or cacs that give money to Harvard giving money because it's white people there, or because they went to Harvard?

A lot of the money these schools get is from alumni.

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

Not trying to be in the nikkas pockets but people have a point...

Black people will forever be last because when someone black "makes it" they don't do what the rich people from other races do.A rich Jew or Cac or Latino may give to a cause outside their race....but be SURE....COTDAYUM SURE...they gonna make sho they look out for their race even MORE.

Do you think that Bill Gates,George Steinbrenner or Carlos Slim... got to where they are, by looking out for their race over others?

If the 2nd richest man in the world, cared THAT much more about his own people... would Mexico be in the state it's in now?


blacks will forever be behind, cause we're the only ones who don't understand that it's more about class, than it is race.

 

[El Bombi]

Off Topic

USC Student Demographics (Fall 2012)

Rounded to the nearest percentile

Asians 23%
Black/African-American 5% (I wonder how much of this 5% is in the Athletic Department? )
Hispanic 14%
White/Caucasian 39%
International 12%
Other 7%

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

Cacs and c00n convention in here