1 BTC = $8.2k, it’s up 735% this yr UPDATE 5/19: BTC @ $42k :damn:

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The amount of money to be made in this space is actually disgusting. And with a click of a button, too. No other sector compares.
:whoa::whoa: Not trying to pry:

Do you normally use non-KYC for those trades?
I’m taking some time off soon and I plan to dedicate a lot of that time to studying this stuff
 

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The amount of money to be made in this space is actually disgusting. And with a click of a button, too. No other sector compares.
How much capital is needed to make enough each month to make say $3000-$5000 a month off ETH and BTC ? I always assumed you needed $50,000 to live off those especially BTC.
 

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:whoa::whoa: Not trying to pry:

Do you normally use non-KYC for those trades?
I’m taking some time off soon and I plan to dedicate a lot of that time to studying this stuff
I always KYC, whether required or not, so that my legal name is attached to my Public ID should there ever be insolvency issues. I use Kraken for spot and Bitunix for perps but my spot portfolio is generally long term (bear market to post-halving) while BTC and ETH perps is how I actively earn an income. Stick to spot, trade support/resistance.

How much capital is needed to make enough each month to make say $3000-$5000 a month off ETH and BTC ? I always assumed you needed $50,000 to live off those especially BTC.
I mean, I can do it with less than $50,000 but it really depends on one’s experience level and risk tolerance, and I should probably add a caveat that my post#59,629 was made with perps/futures in mind since you can profit both on the way up (long) and on the way down (short) all while leveraging your margin, but it’s not exactly beginner friendly!

Don’t worry about capital. Learn your way around a chart (I cannot recommend Bulkowski’s Encylopedia of Chart Patterns enough!), find a strategy that works for you, and stick to it. It takes practice like anything else. Start with 100, $1 trades. If you end up with less than $100 at the end of the challenge, you’re not ready. Start over. Baby steps.

To give an example, I took 3 trades today using no more than $30,000 on a single trade:

  1. ETH long, $18,000 margin/capital at 50x for a $900,000 position
  2. BTC long, $30,000 margin/capital at 40x for a $1,200,000 position
  3. ETH long, $16,000 margin/capital at 50x for a $800,000 position
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and made just over $60,000. One or two more days and I should be done for the month.
 

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I always KYC, whether required or not, so that my legal name is attached to my Public ID should there ever be insolvency issues. I use Kraken for spot and Bitunix for perps but my spot portfolio is generally long term (bear market to post-halving) while BTC and ETH perps is how I actively earn an income. Stick to spot, trade support/resistance.


I mean, I can do it with less than $50,000 but it really depends on one’s experience level and risk tolerance, and I should probably add a caveat that my post#59,629 was made with perps/futures in mind since you can profit both on the way up (long) and on the way down (short) all while leveraging your margin, but it’s not exactly beginner friendly!

Don’t worry about capital. Learn your way around a chart (I cannot recommend Bulkowski’s Encylopedia of Chart Patterns enough!), find a strategy that works for you, and stick to it. It takes practice like anything else. Start with 100, $1 trades. If you end up with less than $100 at the end of the challenge, you’re not ready. Start over. Baby steps.

To give an example, I took 3 trades today using no more than $30,000 on a single trade:

  1. ETH long, $18,000 margin/capital at 50x for a $900,000 position
  2. BTC long, $30,000 margin/capital at 40x for a $1,200,000 position
  3. ETH long, $16,000 margin/capital at 50x for a $800,000 position
9bZGBcO.png

and made just over $60,000. One or two more days and I should be done for the month.
:huhldup: margin/option trading with crypto
 

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:huhldup: margin/option trading with crypto
Yes, very dangerous and not recommended. Spot investing should be the focus. I didn’t touch perps until after retirement, after having been in the space since 2011 silk road.

Fun fact: Arthur Hayes, the pioneer of perps, doesn’t even use it.

 
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