Finding rim protectors is not easy, which is why they need to stress for Dieng in return.
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Finding rim protectors is not easy, which is why they need to stress for Dieng in return.
Gil Scott-Heroin
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When was the last time a team was successful with two bigs that couldn't shoot?
What else do you think the Wolves would ask for if the Cavs wanted Love and Dieng?
When was the last time a team was successful with two bigs that couldn't shoot?
Define shoot
How far we talking here? And Embiid can shoot breh
I mean, it's lose Kevin Love for nothing at all, or get the last two number 1 picks in the draft plus another pick
To me, giving up Dieng would be fair for Wiggins, Bennett and a first.
I think Cavs can win with a Kyrie/Waiters backcourt as long as they get a decent rim protector.I mean, it's lose Kevin Love for nothing at all, or get the last two number 1 picks in the draft plus another pick
To me, giving up Dieng would be fair for Wiggins, Bennett and a first.
I mean, it's lose Kevin Love for nothing at all, or get the last two number 1 picks in the draft plus another pick
To me, giving up Dieng would be fair for Wiggins, Bennett and a first.
Wiggins is not worth both Love & Dieng. Minnesota would be retarded to trade both of them for him.
Where Bennett was picked is irrelevant, for one he had no business being picked that high and two he was one of the worst players in the NBA last year and in general one of the worst rookies in NBA history last year.
These are the list of players that played as many or more games than Bennett and put a PER as good or worse than him in their rookie year, just take a look at these names breh:
http://www.basketball-reference.com...at=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=1.0&c6stat=&order_by=per
I'd have no objections to Wiggins/Bennett & picks for Love & Dieng, their backcourt would be fine with Dieng patrolling the paint.
Actually, Wiggins/Bennett and picks is worth Love/Dieng, no matter how bad his season was Bennett still has value and most people believe he will have a strong second season. All things considered, Wiggins is the absolute best asset the Wolves could get right now, nobody can offer them that.
Dieng was the 21st pick in the draft, is 24 and his natural position is C, the Wolves have a 5 already and while I think they could get away with playing him at the 4, ultimately he'd be better off with the Cavs playing the 5.
Th3G3ntleman
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I can't see Minny giving up Dieng, not after those string of games he put together last season. Dude was probably a top 10 rookie after March last season. I hope the Cavs can fleece him though, cause no team is beating them in the east with Dieng.
Well of course they believe he'll have a better second season, he has nowhere to go but up that's just how awful he was.
Oh I agree Wiggins is the best asset that seems available for them right now. But giving up both Love & Dieng? Hell nah. Did you miss when Dieng got to start last year and was killing it? Averaged 12 points, 12 rebounds and 2 blocks as a starter even had a 20/20 game. I'd say Dieng has more value than Bennett right now. shyt Pekovic will probably be traded sooner than later so they can promote Dieng to starter.
Gil Scott-Heroin
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Define shoot
How far we talking here? And Embiid can shoot breh
A dependable shooter, that can unclog the paint on call. It's basically de jure to have that now, and there's no point in Embiid being that player when he wrecks so much havoc in the paint, with Noel being DA status with his no offensive-touch havin ass. You'd be dumbing down the offense, if you played Embiid outside of the paint just to accommodate Noel. What Philly is attempting to do, by building his jumper from scratch has never been done before (at least in recent times). It's hard for me to grasp something is possible, when a 20-year-old is suppose to come into the league with absolutely no foundations of shooting, and not only transform their game but also be reliable at it. To add to the fact, he's going to be playing the 5 this season mostly doing dirty work - so when is he exactly suppose to be playing this PF role to develop his jumper in game situations...... in 2015/2016 - that minute window of possibility will be closed by the time the following season rolls around.
I just don't see him becoming "big" enough to play the 5. I see him as an Ibaka type player, if he can work on hitting that 15 foot jumper. I saw he actually hit a jumper in the summer league which is a good sign because he was one of the wost shooting bigs I've seen at ky
Scroll up breh, I posted his starting stats.
They could play hardball and lose Love for nothing at all though, they are the ones with the risk here, not the Cavs. I feel like that's an even deal seeing as how the alternatives are lose Love for nada, get back Klay Thompson and max him out, or except the Celtics trade which is
without those Brooklyn picks.Getting back Wiggins, Bennett and picks is fair even if it means they have to give up Dieng, because at the end of the day they are going to lose Love, he's not re-signing so at it's core it's like trading Dieng by himself for those 2.
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It can work breh, they have to start addressing 1-3 and getting shooters at those positions, that is really what will decide if it can work or not. If you can get good shooters at PG, SG and SF there's less pressure on Noel to become a good shooter, he'd simply have to be right around average. The Hakeem/Thorpe duo was pretty potent with Hakeem taking the baseline jumpers, and Thorpe didn't have a good jumper, his was just decent but it didn't matter much because they had shooters everywhere else.
You will not take this hope from me, I will hold out until it crashes and burns.
