2014 NBA Trade Deadline Rumors/Discussion Thread

[beenz]

what would the wizards give the cavs if they pick up deng u think?

 

[trick]

no. the nba draft ain't like the nfl where you can find gems in later rounds. all the elite players in the league were high first round picks (most in the top 5-10). most productive players are also first round picks. even with the best scouting department there are only 2-3 guys each year in the second round that'll be something more than 12th men on the end of the bench.

just look at the second rounds of the last couple of drafts. maybe one or two names each years are guys that are worthy of beings "assets". everyone else is just another name that teams recycle.

I did not say that you can find elite players in the second round. I'm not saying those who are getting drafted in the 2nd round are going to be elite players. I'm saying that if you draft well, you have a chance of securing someone who can potentially contribute to your team for cheap.

 

[Jplaya2023]

I don't understand why the clippers are trying to move Collison to NY. Who are the knicks offering?

 

[Kliq_Souf]

Git r done

 

[beenz]

Ernie Grunfeld is an idiot. He could have drafted Deng in 2004 instead of trading the 5th pick (Devin Harris) for Antawn Jamison on a max contract Besides, we can sign Deng this offseason if they really want him THAT bad...

Ariza is giving the Wizards better production from 3 point land and also averaging 2 steals. Deng is an expiring just as Ariza is.

The SF position is not a weakness in Washington. Backup PG and PF is the problem. Nene should come off the bench and play against 2nd units to raise his efficiency IMO.

are the wizards officially throwing otto in the :bushess:??

 

[Swagnificent]

So with your dumb ass logic @Swagnificent why have a 2nd round in the draft then? Just make it one round and 30 picks. I see why you've got that WOAT tag under your name.

bodies at the end of the bench. most NBA teams keep 12 guys on the active roster.

just look at the 2010 draft. For every Lance Stephenson you can get in the 2nd round, there are 28 guys already outta the league. I mean seriously I just looked at that year cause it was only 4 years ago and you'd think after 4 years the players would have time to develop and of the 30 second round picks, the only I guys I think are STILL IN THE LEAGUE are Stephenson and Landry Fields. That is why I say 2nd round picks are worthless. Its like playing the lottery.

Philly would be better served trading their guys who have shown ability to play in this league than for second round picks.

 

[beenz]

back in the 80's the NBA draft had like 9 rounds.

 

[Malta]

Paul Millsap, even Andray Blatche, Kyle Korver, Draymond Green, Jae Crowder, Dejuan Blair, Scola, Mo Williams, Gortat, M. Gasol, Varejao, Marcus Thornton...

2012 draft 2nd rounders
Mike Scott, Draymond Green, Jeff Taylor, Quincy Miller, Khris Middleton


All of these guys getting minutes, or in Miller and Middleton's case showing signs of being really good players.

And even a promising player like Nate Wolters in last years awful draft, dude makes some bad arguments.

 

[Swagnificent]

I did not say that you can find elite players in the second round. I'm not saying those who are getting drafted in the 2nd round are going to be elite players. I'm saying that if you draft well, you have a chance of securing someone who can potentially contribute to your team for cheap.

I'm saying you won't even find that. Just look at past drafts and look at the second rounds. 70% of the names will probably never play in the league. And at most you'll have 2-3 guys who are even rotation players.

 

[kash10003]

Git r done

thats the trade to make, and it will probably happen. Jordan is obsessed with Turner

 

[GoldenGlove]

bodies at the end of the bench. most NBA teams keep 12 guys on the active roster.

just look at the 2010 draft. For every Lance Stephenson you can get in the 2nd round, there are 28 guys already outta the league. I mean seriously I just looked at that year cause it was only 4 years ago and you'd think after 4 years the players would have time to develop and of the 30 second round picks, the only I guys I think are STILL IN THE LEAGUE are Stephenson and Landry Fields. That is why I say 2nd round picks are worthless. Its like playing the lottery.

Philly would be better served trading their guys who have shown ability to play in this league than for second round picks.

You realize the same shyt can be said for a lot of 1st round picks right? The difference is... those guys get more opportunities because if they bust GMs/coaches lose their jobs. Go back and look at some of the previous drafts. There are plenty of 1st rounders that are bench players that can't get any PT.

 

[Leasy]

Hinkie is a genius man. Can't wait until we trade Turner.

 

[Swagnificent]

2012 draft 2nd rounders
Mike Scott, Draymond Green, Jeff Taylor, Quincy Miller, Khris Middleton


All of these guys getting minutes, or in Miller and Middleton's case showing signs of being really good players.

And even a promising player like Nate Wolters in last years awful draft, dude makes some bad arguments.

how bout we use drafts from 4-5 years ago and see how many 2nd rounders are still even in the league. those guys you named outside of Green are on bad teams and only playing cause the teams wanna see what they're made of. There's a chance those guys don't even stick in the league 2-3 years from now.

for every 2012, there are alot more 2010's. look at that second round and tell me how many guys EVEN PLAYED IN THE LEAGUE. I could only make out two guys that are still around right now (Stephenson and Fields). And that was just FOUR YEARS AGO.

 

[kash10003]

both gordon and sessions are UFA

if hinkie pulls this off it would probably be the portland 1st rounder though

 

[Malta]

Who would the Wiz be trading? Ariza and Porter for Deng maybe?

bodies at the end of the bench. most NBA teams keep 12 guys on the active roster.

just look at the 2010 draft. For every Lance Stephenson you can get in the 2nd round, there are 28 guys already outta the league. I mean seriously I just looked at that year cause it was only 4 years ago and you'd think after 4 years the players would have time to develop and of the 30 second round picks, the only I guys I think are STILL IN THE LEAGUE are Stephenson and Landry Fields. That is why I say 2nd round picks are worthless. Its like playing the lottery.

Philly would be better served trading their guys who have shown ability to play in this league than for second round picks.

So, you're using 2010 as your gauge, even though 2009, 2011, 2012 all have rotational players in the 2nd round?


The 2008 draft had Chalmers, Dragic, Pekovic, Jordan and Asik going in the 2nd round.