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Come on down Liz stans, we have a better version of her in Bernie.
neither bernie nor biden will get antyhing done in their 4 years...yes, 4...we hope :francis:

a good part of the dem base doesn't fukk with most of bernie's ideas, and republicans dont at all? why are we electing someone who won't get anything done? at most, a biden/bernie presidency repeals some trump policies, seems like we'll get the same outcome from both
 

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This is something Josh Hawley will exploit. His rhetoric polishes what Trump began.

Imo most of the future energy behind Trump will move towards Josh Hawley/Tucker Carlson turned politicians who merge together Tucker's right wing anti-capitalist gimmick and Hawley's desire for a theocracy.

Bernie's rhetoric will throw help throw sand into the gears of this. Hawley must be stopped.

 

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neither bernie nor biden will get antyhing done in their 4 years...yes, 4...we hope :francis:

a good part of the dem base doesn't fukk with most of bernie's ideas, and republicans dont at all? why are we electing someone who won't get anything done? at most, a biden/bernie presidency repeals some trump policies, seems like we'll get the same outcome from both
The same people who hate Bernie’s ideas also hate Warren’s ideas. I’m still trying to understand the logic of people who think Warren or Bernie or anyone will somehow get something done that any other leftist wouldn’t. Is it the rollout of the plans that are substantially similar to things Democrats on the left have put forward for years? The fact of the matter is, most of the work done early on in a Sanders or Warren or Biden or Yang or Amy presidency would be through the executive branch and executive actions. The faith people have in Sanders comes from the fact that they have 0 doubt that he would never stop fighting. I feel the same about Warren.
 

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neither bernie nor biden will get antyhing done in their 4 years...yes, 4...we hope :francis:

a good part of the dem base doesn't fukk with most of bernie's ideas, and republicans dont at all? why are we electing someone who won't get anything done? at most, a biden/bernie presidency repeals some trump policies, seems like we'll get the same outcome from both
Curious, who do you think will get something done in 4 years out of the Democratic nominees?
 

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Curious, who do you think will get something done in 4 years out of the Democratic nominees?
liz...bernie bros get mad because she's not as left, centrists get mad because they don't want to see her more left ideas succeed, but her being such a wonk, she proposes stuff that can work. that said. we need a two term president to really see someone move the needle, liz is already on the cusp of being too old for that. bernie definitely is, especially given the 0-60 plans he campaigns on. and like i said, biden, the most i expect from him is to repeal a few trump policies...so he's not needed for 8 years in any capacity, but yea, he's too old also.

really is sad that the younger candidates were/are :trash: and/or have some big gaps that contribute to them not being viable. who we have leading aren't good candidates for the long term strategy, i keep saying i'm not a believer in the dems being able to hold together their coalition with so much of it based on ID politics
 

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This is something Josh Hawley will exploit. His rhetoric polishes what Trump began.

Imo most of the future energy behind Trump will move towards Josh Hawley/Tucker Carlson turned politicians who merge together Tucker's right wing anti-capitalist gimmick and Hawley's desire for a theocracy.

Bernie's rhetoric will throw help throw sand into the gears of this. Hawley must be stopped.



This is terrifying :damn:

The GOP of course isn't going to acknowledge what Reaganism has brought but interestingly enough, they don't invoke Reagan as much anymore!!

But the GOP still has no policies. Even if Hawley or those on the right talking this populist game all the time, their donors just want tax cuts and judges!

If the GOP is the party that falls back from neoliberalism.... man, we're so screwed :snoop:
 
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