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Been saying this. If we elect Biden, all those young voters and voters of color are going to sit out again. He doesnt excite people. :yeshrug:
its not about that. the most exciting thing about the 2020 election is gonna be the ability to send trump home and kick him the fukk outta the white house. you think the young liberal vote isnt DYING to do that already :dahell: ? biden just needs a youthful VP. id say tulsi if she wasnt such a weird russian asset :mjlol:

meanwhile the swing states, ohio, florida, pennsylvania, michigan, are BEGGING for an alternative to trump thats not a communist :yeshrug: its crazy to me that you guys think this country would do a 180 from trump in 2020. the gradual biden shift seems more plausible
 

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its not about that. the most exciting thing about the 2020 election is gonna be the ability to send trump home and kick him the fukk outta the white house. you think the young liberal vote isnt DYING to do that already :dahell: ? biden just needs a youthful VP. id say tulsi if she wasnt such a weird russian asset :mjlol:

meanwhile the swing states, ohio, florida, pennsylvania, michigan, are BEGGING for an alternative to trump thats not a communist :yeshrug: its crazy to me that you guys think this country would do a 180 from trump in 2020. the gradual biden shift seems more plausible
Oh shyt welcome back :ehh:

But a lot of voters are still apathetic, even with Trump in office. Plus it doesnt help that the economy isn't in a recession.
 

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its not about that. the most exciting thing about the 2020 election is gonna be the ability to send trump home and kick him the fukk outta the white house. you think the young liberal vote isnt DYING to do that already :dahell: ? biden just needs a youthful VP. id say tulsi if she wasnt such a weird russian asset :mjlol:

meanwhile the swing states, ohio, florida, pennsylvania, michigan, are BEGGING for an alternative to trump thats not a communist :yeshrug: its crazy to me that you guys think this country would do a 180 from trump in 2020. the gradual biden shift seems more plausible

The thing is, the midwest states are the states that sprung up a lot of the labor rights workers have today. No one has more credibility on labor issues than Bernie. Biden has the image of being thar guy, but he has a record of undermining labor through several initiatives he's voted for.
 

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I'm just thinking about all those woke, cancel culture, millennial/Gen Z, a bunch of whom are on my Facebook feed, I just can't see many of them holding their nose to vote for Biden, even against Trump. They're just gonna go :hubie:. We need these voters to actually show up.
 

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The thing is, the midwest states are the states that sprung up a lot of the labor rights workers have today. No one has more credibility on labor issues than Bernie. Biden has the image of being thar guy, but he has a record of undermining labor through several initiatives he's voted for.
the problem is that youre underestimating what the republicans and their state propaganda machine Fox News are gonna be able to do to a candidate who describes himself as a democratic socialist. look at how warren completely disentigrated after slight pressure on the tab for M4A. shes fukkin finished

for the record, im just saying this with the economy today = the economy in nov 2020. if it tanks between now and then the democrats could run karl marx and win :heh:
 

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the problem is that youre underestimating what the republicans and their state propaganda machine Fox News are gonna be able to do to a candidate who describes himself as a democratic socialist. look at how warren completely disentigrated after slight pressure on the tab for M4A. shes fukkin finished

for the record, im just saying this with the economy today = the economy in nov 2020. if it tanks between now and then the democrats could run karl marx and win :heh:

I think what we can learn from Bernie's ascendency and Trump's election and continued support for who is that if your upfront about where you stand and own it, it doesn't hurt you. At the end of the day, blue states are gonna vote blue, red states gonna vote red, but those battleground states want a populist and even conservatives have taken an anti- big business turn. I don't see the socialist allegations hurting Bernie cuz both the left and the right want a populist. Bernie already has the young diverse coalition, and he speaks to the needs of the white male labor class of the midwest and can out-message trump on the populist front.
 
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