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:patrice: why would the russians want bernie to :win:
Because it drives a wedge between Moderate Dems and the rest of the party. It effectively splinters the party much like the Tea Party did to the Republican party.

Russia's goal is fracturing the US from the inside out, you start with the political systems then the chaos and division spreads through government on down. You're already seeing the effects of how successful this can be based on 2016.
 

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Because it drives a wedge between Moderate Dems and the rest of the party. It effectively splinters the party much like the Tea Party did to the Republican party.

Russia's goal is fracturing the US from the inside out, you start with the political systems then the chaos and division spreads through government on down. You're already seeing the effects of how successful this can be based on 2016.
Good point.
 

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I would not antagonize establishment Dems or any other constituency that I'll will need on my side down the line. I'm up double digits, I have the left locked up, I'm a favorite in NV and I'm closing in on SC. This ain't the time to serve up red meat for my base, it's the time to expand the coalition and bring in new people. At the end of the day Bernie is not defeating Trump without moderates and/or establishment Dems on his side as voters and surrogates. You guys are smart enough to know this.
Um, so Establishment types call for unity and hatred of Donald Trump is only contingent on Bernie being nice to them? Good to know, that is also a plus for Progressives because it would expose out spoken stances by Establishment types as complete bullshyt. Chess not checkers fam. :mjgrin:
 

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Because it drives a wedge between Moderate Dems and the rest of the party. It effectively splinters the party much like the Tea Party did to the Republican party.

Russia's goal is fracturing the US from the inside out, you start with the political systems then the chaos and division spreads through government on down. You're already seeing the effects of how successful this can be based on 2016.
What about 2012? Putin preferred Obama over Romney? Speak on it. lol
 

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I mean....no. She was wrong. Dead ass wrong. You’re acting like other people weren’t hitting him on the stage? She had the hot line of the night, of course, but he was taking hits from everyone not named Pete
Y'all need to stop being obtuse and be real. The top two discussed candidates after the debate were Elizabeth Warren and Mike Bloomberg. The most discussed topic on the debate was how Liz was dragging Bloomberg to hell.

Yes, it's an exaggeration to say she lowered his polling by herself, but she SHOULD get the lion's share of the credit. She wasn't the first to attack him but she was the most effective. Be honest
 

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I would not antagonize establishment Dems or any other constituency that I'll will need on my side down the line. I'm up double digits, I have the left locked up, I'm a favorite in NV and I'm closing in on SC. This ain't the time to serve up red meat for my base, it's the time to expand the coalition and bring in new people. At the end of the day Bernie is not defeating Trump without moderates and/or establishment Dems on his side as voters and surrogates. You guys are smart enough to know this.
That’s all well and good but they’re outright blatantly letting it be known that they’re trying to fukk him. It’s not even subtle anymore.

Using the Dem establishment as a foil has only been successful so far politically for him. The more they try these shenanigans and hate from their mainstream media perches, the more he goes up in the polls. I’d say you have to win first then worry about solidarity after that. The way to win is keep calling them out for what they’re doing. Then after you win, you have the leverage to say it’s me or Trump, what are you gonna do? Then we can all sing kumbaya.

I’d say the bigger problem is the Democratic establishment so blatantly trying to sabotage the guy leading the polls and has the highest likelihood of being their candidate.
 

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As a black voter I gotta be real. The black vote is the biggest popularity contest vote there is. I tried to tell these #bidenboyz that Biden's nomination wasn't in the bag if he lost Iowa. I tried to tell them if he's not the clear front runner by the time he reaches South Carolina, he will probably lose it. Now look...if Sanders clearly wins Nevada, he's gonna take SC. Don't listen to me though :heh:
 
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