2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

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[Kenny West]

Thanks. I need it.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I know...why you acting brand new


If you're advocating Warren's plan remember the reason she tumbled was because she lied about the tax increase on the middle class.

And what's Bernie's plan?

Oh, that's right.

HE DOESNT HAVE A fukkING PLAN

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I hate to even be associated in a party with someone this corny.

Just granola bullshyt loser syndromes.

If that makes me sound elite, I hope so. Thats the point.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Healthcare costs has kept more people out of retirement than taxes ever could. Source: I worked in the medicare insurance industry for years.

They're working because the alternative is rationing their SSI checks between life sustaining medication and food. old folks will be better able to sustain themselves in retirement if they dont have healthcare expenses. They are the most at risk group for dying due to unaffordable healthcare.

Don't try to use them for your bullshyt argument. The only thing it threatens is a little extra coin which goes to treating family your insurance coverage would never allow without additional plans like your older aunts and uncles or their children

Son, even Amy Klobuchar wants a public option system.

Every goddamn democrat running for president wants to improve and move past the ACA.

The question is who is best equipped to navigate such a toxic policy through congress.

Its not the guy who has never DONE anything in his goddamn life.

This is what you cult members don't get.

Theres a lot of players in the NBA. Some players are just better than others and have the history to prove it. Others, are sheer hype. Learn to tell the fukking difference.

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

Most of your posts are about Warren.

Nobody on earth is anywhere near deranged about Warren. She doesn’t elicit strong emotional reactions and she’s polling around 10%.

Damn.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Most of your posts are about Warren.





Damn.

Lol no they’re not but

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

You know I'm a warren supporter.

You're just talking.

Right. Son, every single democrat including fukking Buttigieg and Klobuchar wants AT LEAST a public option system. Thats monumental.

Even Warren's plan to bolster the ACA before transitioning to Universal Healthcare soon thereafter and immediately expand coverage does more IMMEDIATELY than even Bernie's plan which itself needs an enrollment period.

Strategy means nothing to a bunch of losers who've never done anything.

We're about to be led off the cliffs by a functional mob of IGNORANT LOSERS who are too dull to realize they're being played.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Which Income Class Are You?


Let's say middle class is 100k a year household income.

The first 30K is exempt.

So you pay a 4% payroll tax on $70K of income.

That's $2800 a year for your entire family.

That's $107 a check for you and your entire family.

My wife pays $80 a check for just her and my son making 40 - 50K a year income.

I pay $80 a check for just myself making 40-50k income.

Not to mention we've already paid about $1000 in deductibles and co-pays this year.

If the shyt goes through as planned it'd be a win for the middle class.

You're literally just making up hypothetical numbers and running with it.

And what's worse, this is more math than Bernie has ever done on his own plan.

 

[SunZoo]

Nah man. When most of say elite we do not mean upper middle class. We mean the fukking billionaires that don't want to fork over anything.

The 3 richest Americans hold more wealth between them than the bottom 50% of the rest of the United States.

That's the type of elite oligarchs and overlords that we are tired of. The middle class was already being pushed on, and then the crooks on Wall Street crashed the economy in 2008 and crushed it even more by taking what little wealth the middle class had left. Ever since then with movements like Occupy Wall Street, The Tea Party, etc, you've been seeing signs that motherfukkers are tired of the ruling class in this country.

You aren't the enemy here.

The upper middle class may not be 'elite' but they're comfortable and usually self interested in moving up that ladder which often entails being a buffer between the ruling class and the rest of the people. The same shyt MLK was saying about white moderates applies to the black bourgeoisie, middle, upper middle class people who are comfortable enough to be swayed to maintain status quo or only allow progress that doesn't affect their bottom line.

That c00n ass nikka Jason Johnson, who I'm sure is at least upper middle class is, black, a Warren supporter, super concerned with identity politics yet had no qualms about defending Mike Bloomberg and the elite oligarch overlords you spoke on from somebody trying to champion the poor and working class.

If you're black, well off, talk a lot of pro-black jive but revert to protecting the rich or "HYON" when the most vulnerable people in the country, many of them black don't exactly trust your vision on how to best address their needs, you are the OPPS, period point fukking blank.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

She didn't lie about it. She gave you a plan that shows you exactly how it will be paid for.

Then you all got into an argument about head tax and payroll taxes.

But I'm starting to surmise that you all don't like it because Bernie didn't propose it.

But until he releases a plan I guess we should table this discussion.

Whats funny is I saw Ana Kasparian just bytching about head roll taxes the moment Warren's plan came out just because it wasn't Bernie's plan. They used that as a means to try and discredit her when she had the superior payment plan.

These people are being led by Bernie's street team, not actual analysts who know what the fukk they're doing.

They just regurgitate anything that helps Bernie no matter what.

 

[Kenny West]

Most of your posts are about Warren.





Damn.

Most of your posts are passive aggressive swipes at sanders or his supporters though.

You seem upset friend. Why the doom and gloom?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Her proposal isnt "medicare for all" its "medicare for some..... If you meet xy and z qualifications that republicans will eventually bully me into making unattainable"

She's not a real progressive and thus not winning the nomination. If you really support universal healthcare then your words here are incongruent

Sorry to hear that. So many insurance plans are woefully ineffective tripe wrapped up in so much jargon that people dont realize how badly they've been getting fukked until 3rd trimester.

Martin skreli is a case study on why this industry needs to be regulated or reconsidered if it should be an industry at all.

Wrong again.

Warren's is two fold:

1. Improve the ACA immediately and immediately expand coverage lost in the last 5 years overnight.

2. Turn to Medicare for All within 2 years as the transition is set up

BOTH OF THESE ARE POLITICALLY MORE SAVVY AND HELP MORE PEOPLE FASTER

Sanders has a 4 fukking year transition! ON A HAIL MARY PLAN!

Even experts agree she has the better plan.

An Inconvenient Truth: Eight months later, Elizabeth Warren FINALLY admits it'll take at least TWO bills to achieve M4All

Opinion | Warren’s Very Good Transition Plan

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Thanks breh.

Part of me definitely thinks that it's fukked up to put economic incentives in place that prioritize not taking care of people. As soon as you do that people will naturally turn down people for health care and coverage. I don't think it's a perfect 1 to 1 argument, but I think similarly of the private prison system. As soon as you make it able to profit off of people being locked in cages, then of course it's going to be in your interest to lock more people in cages, and not let out the ones already locked up.

I'm definitely in the health care = human right camp, but at the same time I do wish more people would take ownership over their own health and do a better job at taking care of themselves. We should have better education on exercise, eating, proper use of antibiotics, etc. But I still think it's bizarre to claim to be the best nation on earth and allow out own citizens to die in crazy numbers because they can't afford their medical bills.

We got middle-class people out here calling Uber for their heart attacks because they can't pay for ambulances.

It's gone too far.

and who do you think understands how to pass these laws better?

The guy who doesn't pass any laws?

Yelling at Mitch McConnell ain't gonna cut it.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Nah man. When most of say elite we do not mean upper middle class. We mean the fukking millionaires and especially the billionaires that don't want to fork over anything.

The 3 richest Americans hold more wealth between them than the bottom 50% of the rest of the United States.

That's the type of elite oligarchs and overlords that we are tired of. The middle class was already being pushed on, and then the crooks on Wall Street crashed the economy in 2008 and crushed it even more by taking what little wealth the middle class had left. Ever since then with movements like Occupy Wall Street, The Tea Party, etc, you've been seeing signs that motherfukkers are tired of the ruling class in this country.

You aren't the enemy here.

Edit: BTW if you earned 1 dollar per second just for breathing air, it would take 32 years before you had a billion dollars. I don't think most people comprehend the difference between a million and a billion. You can have 999 million dollars and not be a billionaire. When we rag on billionaires some people act like we're talking shyt about a lot of people, without realizing how few billionaires are out there.

Every democrat running for president including billionaires wants to raise taxes.

Whats your point?