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Have to keep it on the 100%, the only candidate i'm most likely going to sit it out if they become the nominee is Mayor Pete, just something about the guy that's not clicking for me. Other than that, Warren is my first choice but i'll vote for everyone else except Pete :yeshrug:
add klobuchar to this for me. i mean i know she's polling low AF, but if for some reason she won, i'd have to let the dem party know :ufdup:

and tulsi...but the dnc hates her too so no way she does shyt :russ:
 

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I held my nose and voted for Hillary. In response, I somehow got blamed for her losing.

So this time, no compromise. If it comes down to convention time and the party just hands Biden the nomination, I'm not voting for him.

If the media is somehow successful at installing Warren into first place, I'll laugh my ass off as she loses to Trump and Dems learn NOTHING again.

But none of this matters. Bernie will be the nominee.

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i've been on the record as to where i stand on this silly donor issue. but this shyt looks even sillier when wanting to ban "rich" donors. i get super-pacs/corp money, but lol @ a "rich" individual's $2800 donation (or $5000 ticket purchase) being shunned and somehow some mcdonald's worker's $27 being ok. they both clearly are utilizing their right to support the candidate they believe in.
 

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I held my nose and voted for Hillary. In response, I somehow got blamed for her losing.

So this time, no compromise. If it comes down to convention time and the party just hands Biden the nomination, I'm not voting for him.

If the media is somehow successful at installing Warren into first place, I'll laugh my ass off as she loses to Trump and Dems learn NOTHING again.

But none of this matters. Bernie will be the nominee.

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First I don’t sound ridiculous. You can disagree, but my point is well thought out.

Second, I didn’t say people know their rights. I said you can know your rights and police still violate them. That’s a clear difference from what you claimed I said. I have no problem with people learning their rights, but the main problem with policing is not that people don’t know their rights, it is that police are violating their rights with no consequences. You are speaking to someone who was targeted countless times by the police in a redneck area when I was in the military. In many cases you don’t even have a chance to tell police you know your rights before something happens.

Third, please find a quote of me saying that Warren was the only one who didn’t fumble the ball this weekend. I’ll wait, because you can’t, because I never said that. Don’t put words in my mouth to make your point.

Forth I have given Castro credit in this thread countless times for his positions, and even stated I think he would be a great VP.

Fifth, Warren did answer the question. You just didn’t like her answer. It’s a difference.

Lastly,
You said stop insulting your intelligence as a Black man. Man stop it. I’m also a Black man. You stated you are an attorney, so I would expect a better argument. You seem to be mad that I didn’t like Bernie answer. Well, get over it. And if you quote me, fully read my post and don’t makeup shyt.
Your point isn’t well thought. I responded to two different posts by you at once. If you’re not the one who said she was the only one who didn’t fumble and I’m pretty sure it was you, which is why I specifically pulled out your post - then my bad on that point but everything else you said still was silly. At this point all you nikkas are becoming interchangeable. Whatever else you just wrote to clean it up doesn’t matter to me. I’m not reading all that. Take your daps from your group circle jerk and be happy :manny:.
 
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i've been on the record as to where i stand on this silly donor issue. but this shyt looks even sillier when wanting to ban "rich" donors. i get super-pacs/corp money, but lol @ a "rich" individual's $2800 donation (or $5000 ticket purchase) being shunned and somehow some mcdonald's worker's $27 being ok. they both clearly are utilizing their right to support the candidate they believe in.
Donors do matter. Look at how Pete switched up when the donors of big corporations got behind him. The point is very obvious that America talks about the “working class” but the outsize influence of money skews towards the interests of those with the disposable income to donate. Both are trying to do the same thing but what one group wants basically imposes harsh conditions on the other class. It is no surprise that Warren and Sanders are mounting left wing campaigns because of online donations that allow them to compete with big money. It takes 1000 working class people to compete with one wealthy person. Obviously you’re not going to get policy reflecting the majority with that. But I generally think Warren and Sanders supporters shouldn’t beef.
 

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While around 12% of Bernie supporters voted for Trump, the overwheming majority voted for Hillary.

A 2010 study in Public Opinion Quarterly found that in the 2008 election 25 percent of those who voted for Clinton in the Democratic primary ended up voting for Republican John McCain, rather than Barack Obama, in the general election.
12% flipping to the monster Trump is still worse in my book. It's impossible to square why a Bernie supporter would flip to that psychopath. I can see why some Clinton supporters flipped to McCain (experience, vet, moderate). There isn't much grey area between Clinton/McCain/Obama.
 

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Donors do matter. Look at how Pete switched up when the donors of big corporations got behind him. The point is very obvious that America talks about the “working class” but the outsize influence of money skews towards the interests of those with the disposable income to donate. Both are trying to do the same thing but what one group wants basically imposes harsh conditions on the other class. It is no surprise that Warren and Sanders are mounting left wing campaigns because of online donations that allow them to compete with big money. It takes 1000 working class people to compete with one wealthy person. Obviously you’re not going to get policy reflecting the majority with that. But I generally think Warren and Sanders supporters shouldn’t beef.
You just proved my point. Corp/PAC money =\= “rich” (what is rich in this case...why use such an ambiguous term no one agrees on? @King Kreole would consider a doctor rich whereas I’d be looking more at the $1M in annual earnings mark...) people donations. Someone making a few hundred thousand isn’t some corporate machine and shouldn’t be vilified because they can drop $2800 on a candidate while wage worker x can only drop $28
 
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He will see this and still repeat the quote about “Bernie Bros” for forever. These dudes have to know this shyt by now yet they still parrot the same shyt
Yea cause idgaf about y’all Bernie supporters. Showed y’all ass that entire last cycle with that oh I’ma take my ball and go home bullshyt then sit back and say well if y’all just selected my guy bullshyt. Y’all have already thrown out this “oh if they don’t select a progressive type count me out” shyt. Y’all will besmirch every candidate that isn’t your guy and then hide your hands when y’all are called on it
 

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Your point isn’t well thought. I responded to two different posts by you at once. If you’re not the one who said she was the only one who didn’t fumble and I’m pretty sure it was you, which is why I specifically pulled out your post - then my bad on that point but everything else you said still was silly. At this point all you nikkas are becoming interchangeable. Whatever else you just wrote to clean it up doesn’t matter to me. I’m not reading all that. Take your daps from your group circle jerk and be happy :manny:.
Very poor agreement. You said your pretty sure i’m the one who said it, when i’m definitively telling you I didn’t say that. If you read my posts I clearly stated in two different posts that all of the candidates need to be asked this question. I also said I like Warren answer, but wanted to know specifically what she would do about police reform. Here is my exact post that you conveniently didn’t quote
This answer was much better than Bernie’s. Still I need specifics from all or the candidates on how they plan to stop police abuse.
Again, I said all the candidates need to give specifics including Warren and Bernie. Even in the post you quoted I give Bernie credit for stating that police need to be held accountable.
I’m trying not to be too critical but that was not a great answer. Asking a officer name will antagonize these racist fukks. Also how are we suppose to make sure they have their camera on? We can know our rights, the problem is the police violate them with no fukks given. However, I do appreciate that he stated that police need to be held accountable. I would like to hear how he plans to hold them accountable. Matter of fact I need to hear from all of the candidates on this issue.
These were my only two posts on this issue. So I don’t know where you getting all this bullshyt from. You are just making shyt up. There is nothing for me to clean up because my posts are clear. And saying we are all interchangeable is a weak argument you came up with because you clearly misquoted me. You stated what I said was silly, without realizing how foolish you look by flipping out because someone disagreed with your preferred candidate.
 

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i've been on the record as to where i stand on this silly donor issue. but this shyt looks even sillier when wanting to ban "rich" donors. i get super-pacs/corp money, but lol @ a "rich" individual's $2800 donation (or $5000 ticket purchase) being shunned and somehow some mcdonald's worker's $27 being ok. they both clearly are utilizing their right to support the candidate they believe in.
Big money in politics doesn't matter to you? :mjlol:

It's like THE central problem. :russ:
 

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i've been on the record as to where i stand on this silly donor issue. but this shyt looks even sillier when wanting to ban "rich" donors. i get super-pacs/corp money, but lol @ a "rich" individual's $2800 donation (or $5000 ticket purchase) being shunned and somehow some mcdonald's worker's $27 being ok. they both clearly are utilizing their right to support the candidate they believe in.

None of this would be an issue if we publicly funded elections...

Of course, we'd need to pass an amendment or stack the courts to do that.
 
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12% flipping to the monster Trump is still worse in my book. It's impossible to square why a Bernie supporter would flip to that psychopath. I can see why some Clinton supporters flipped to McCain (experience, vet, moderate). There isn't much grey area between Clinton/McCain/Obama.
Hypothesis: They weren't actual Democrats, but disaffected whites that Sanders brought into the primary.

We'd need to cross-reference what states the 12% came from, see what the rules for registration were, and whether the states had open/closed primaries to test that hypothesis though.
 
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