2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races
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More simply put liberals are more willing to engage in discourse that may lead to changing their views.
The problem is you're attempting to overlay your own methodology onto others who are more rigid in their beliefs and unlikely to change no matter how much you appeal to their perceived sensibilities.
The problem is you're attempting to overlay your own methodology onto others who are more rigid in their beliefs and unlikely to change no matter how much you appeal to their perceived sensibilities.
Looking at a Trump rally or more specifically looking at the trends of Trump voters actually proves my point. A lot of data proves that theres a spectrum of Trump supporters that resonate with class issues. There's polls showing showing Bernie beating Trump in Texas, polls showing that Bernie (as well as Andrew Yang who also is communicating a populist message) are the only Dems they'd support over Trump. Data showing that people who voted for Obama and voted for Bernie but decided to vote for Trump instead in the general. Data showing that Fox News voters have more favorable views of Bernie than MSNBC viewers.
What that shows is that there's a section of white working class Trump voters that are willing to support the old Jewish guy with the most diverse coalition cuz he's also acknowledging that the country has left those people behind as Trump did during his run.
Highest priorities on the radar for people are medical debt, healthcare insecurity, college debt, low wages, skyrocketing rent and on top of that, their being told that the economy is doing well.
These issues are resonating with everyone across race, gender, ethnicity etc. No one on the left is saying we shouldn't pay attention to the issues affecting specific groups tho. The point is that we should also have real structural changes that challenges the upper elites to pay their fair share and be held accountable.
Please provide data showing blue collar Trump voters aren't looking to vote for Trump?
All data I've seen is that Suburbia has voted for Dems in the last two elections.
Further 2:1 Obama Trump voters who voted for Dems in 2018 are still going to vote for Trump.
Clearly a mere class based message isn't the decider. Which has been my main critique.
Just because someone agrees on a policy position or hates elites doesn't mean they are going to vote for said candidate.
Just a reminder, these blue collar voters voted in a corrupt 1%er to run the country.
Please provide data showing blue collar Trump voters aren't looking to vote for Trump?
All data I've seen is that Suburbia has voted for Dems in the last two elections.
Further 2:1 Obama Trump voters who voted for Dems in 2018 are still going to vote for Trump.
Clearly a mere class based message isn't the decider. Which has been my main critique.
Just because someone agrees on a policy position or hates elites doesn't mean they are going to vote for said candidate.
Just a reminder, these blue collar voters voted in a corrupt 1%er to run the country.
All the data I've provided are proof that there are some working class voters who would ditch Trump for Bernie. Hell look at what happened to in Kentuckey which was a strong Trumo state and how it went Dem. Look at Scott Walker himself saying he's worried about Bernie resonating in Wisconsin.
There are Trump voters who have a racist cult mentality but there were others who are looking for a working class message and your missing a big opportunity if you think its pointless to reach out to those people.
Berniewood Hogan
IT'S BERNIE SANDERS WITH A STEEL CHAIR!
here is why we cannot try to repeat 2016:
FIRST TV ad for Bernie in NH
Don't worry she's got her goonettes for that.Warren is weak.
She is falling into the Obama trap.
She should be like "No fukk you!!! I'm raising the taxes on all you rich b*stards. No beer summits just 90% top marginal tax rates!!! Thank you. fukk you. Goodbye."
why does MSNBC, the supposedly progressive network, hate the most progressive candidate?
MSNBC is generally shytty to anyone that has an original thought not focus group tested or cleared by the sponsors beforehand. They are in love with identity-based progressivism (being racially woke, supporting transgender rights, etc...), but their primary purpose is to protect the interests of the people who write their paychecks so class/economic progressivism is their enemy. He's really gotten a raw deal from that network. At least he's got Fox News championing him because he’s disruptive to the Democratic Party.
Not going lie mayor Pete sounds very presidential
The current Secretary of State Alison Grimes was Kentucky's 2014 Democratic nominee for US Senate. In her race against McConnell SHE RAN OPPOSED TO OBAMA. Not the Democrats. OBAMA.
Oh and she took that L.
The state health exchange that carried ACA marketplace plans was called Kynect and registration officials WERE EXPLICITLY TOLD not to mention Obama or Obamacare at anytime because people would refuse to sign up for insurance.
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Continuing my thoughts on Yang being a trojan horse:
From my perspective you've shown that Trump voters have concerns over class.
Nothing has shown Republicans are looking to leave Trump.