2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races
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Uno Venova
Your honor, I was merely capping.
So the 200K line is just an inconsequential part of the voter base, where we have no data on how the M4A bill will financially affect them or how they feel
Matriarchy Refugee
Banned
So how are they average then?
A person who makes 200k isn't average in any sense of the word
ExodusNirvana
Change is inevitable...
Bernard 
OfTheCross
Veteran
That's always been my question.
According the them they've added the cost of transitioning that workforce into the equation.
Someone posted here that there would be a 4-year transition plan for former employees under Sanders.
Warren said she'd add that to her equation as well...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...er-medicare-for-all/5dc0a2d9602ff1184c3161d2/
^ took that pic this morning. Suggests that nonvoters in some 2016 swing states lean trump
But they aren't, the median household income is what like 60k? People making nearly 3.5x that are average people? Being in the top ~5% makes you average?
The idea that average people will be missing 20k a year is a bit flawed to say the least.
Cheddar Biscuits
Give Me Sight Beyond Sight
Sounds like a job for someone who's "not a real Democrat."
If they didn’t vote then.........
Hope he turned those notifications offSome of the replies are cracking me up though.
"Mask off, White Hood on"
ZoeGod
I’m from Brooklyn a place where stars are born.
As someone who works in the healthcare profession M4A would be a disaster.
Bernie’s M4A act is extreme, even compared with other “single-payer” plans internationally. It intentionally sets up a monopsony, allowing a single payer (govt) to push prices through the floor in order to get coverage for everyone. It explicitly bans private insurance coverage after a 4-year phase-out, slashes reimbursement to providers, and makes balance billing illegal.
Medicare just BARELY covers hospital costs. Pure Medicaid hospitals don't exist, because they're already bankrupt. Already, physician reimbursements and salaries are well behind growing with inflation and have been for nearly 20 years. If you cut Medicare reimbursements, and insure everyone, those little mom and pop rural hospitals and clinics are going to be annihilated in short order.
Make no mistake, it would lead to an immediate recession/depression, as you would lose the entire health insurance industry and many, many clinical providers as clinics tried to stay afloat. Doctors, nurses and other health care professional would see an immediate and drastic cut in their pay- at least those who managed to stay open. Hospitals and clinics are running through thin margins. There is only a handful of hospitals that turn a profit without govt assistance.
I’m all for universal coverage, but M4A would be a disaster. If President Bernie somehow passes it Republicans would win big in 2022 midterms and a Republican would win in 2024. Health care is very complicated and it’s a massive part of our economy that any drastic changes would lead to an economic downturn. America is a unique country with a poor health literacy and even poorer health habits.
Bernie’s M4A act is extreme, even compared with other “single-payer” plans internationally. It intentionally sets up a monopsony, allowing a single payer (govt) to push prices through the floor in order to get coverage for everyone. It explicitly bans private insurance coverage after a 4-year phase-out, slashes reimbursement to providers, and makes balance billing illegal.
Medicare just BARELY covers hospital costs. Pure Medicaid hospitals don't exist, because they're already bankrupt. Already, physician reimbursements and salaries are well behind growing with inflation and have been for nearly 20 years. If you cut Medicare reimbursements, and insure everyone, those little mom and pop rural hospitals and clinics are going to be annihilated in short order.
Make no mistake, it would lead to an immediate recession/depression, as you would lose the entire health insurance industry and many, many clinical providers as clinics tried to stay afloat. Doctors, nurses and other health care professional would see an immediate and drastic cut in their pay- at least those who managed to stay open. Hospitals and clinics are running through thin margins. There is only a handful of hospitals that turn a profit without govt assistance.
I’m all for universal coverage, but M4A would be a disaster. If President Bernie somehow passes it Republicans would win big in 2022 midterms and a Republican would win in 2024. Health care is very complicated and it’s a massive part of our economy that any drastic changes would lead to an economic downturn. America is a unique country with a poor health literacy and even poorer health habits.
TheDarceKnight
Veteran
200k is upper class breh. Your average person, or even your average household, is not making 200k pet year. In fact I think one person making 100k is not even upper middle class, but straight up upper class.
Edit: Not even 100k. Take away like 20k and that;s still upper class.
"For its purposes, the Pew Research Center considers a household to be upper class if its income is double the U.S. median household income. This means that, on average, a single person living alone needs to make just $78,281 to be considered upper class."
Nice to see you putting that SJU education to waste and @dtownreppin214 showing his true colors.