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Lmao...ok.
If you think 6k rent for a basic apartment - and that’s basic, most people can rent something like that in other parts of the country for 1200-3000 - is a good quality of life then we can stop replying to one another.
Nah, you right. 6K is a lot.

Bernard got a rent control and housing plan, fwiw.
 

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NC, TX, and even Kansas
I've lived in NC most of my life and ever since 08 I've considered it a purple state. In 2012 it was red but it was close, and same for 2016. I was really disappointed in my NC brethren for going red in 2016, but trust me, we can easily go blue again like we did in '08. There's a lot more progressiveness out here than I think the country realizes.
 

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NC, TX, and even Kansas

I don't think Texas flips regardless of who wins the nomination.
There isn't enough momentum in the senate race and I think you'd need at minimum a strong presence there (like Beto was in '18) to help drive turnout.

I think Trump takes Texas and we get stuck with another 6 years of Cornyn.

That being said I'll be doing what I can with my vote.
 

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I don't think anyone thinks you're the enemy breh. I hope not. I certainly don't. You should vote for whoever makes the most sense for you, and I;d never encourage you to vote against your self-interest and your family's interest.

You make more than me because I'm not at 6 figures yet, and maybe I'll feel differently when I'm there, but right now I'm okay to take a little bit of a hit tax-wise to help out fellow citizens in bad spots. That doesn't make me better than you, or more noble, etc. We all have to weigh the odds. That choice might come back to bite me in the ass.

I do think more people should realize that the more you make the more you're taxed, and definitely when you have kids you want to start saving as much as possible.If anyone is calling you the enemy I don't think that's really fair.

I would just say that I think there HAS to be a way to even things out where we all don't have to pay an arm and a leg, and hopefully we can find a way to use some of this war money to go towards health care.

The one thing I'll say about the 3-home thing, because I think it's a charge that's been thrown at him by his opponents in bad faith...Bernie has a house in DC, a house back home in Vermont, and a $500,000 vacation home that he bought in 2016. The guy is 78 years old and is far less wealthy than most of the people to ever run for President. The median net worth for Senators in the U.S. is about 3 million dollars, and Bernie's net worth before his book deal was less like 250,000 dollars. To be fair he made a lot of money of his book (his net worth is now a couple million) but again, he's in the final stage of his life and I can't knock the guy for wanting a vacation home.
I want to be clear on this first and foremost, I don't care what Bernie has. He earned it.

Secondly, but more importantly, what we earn doesn't determine how good of people we are.

That said, I expect people to fight for what benefits them. @No1 likes to call me a cynic, but I think it's not only prudent, but extremely important that people vote for their best interest.

But I agree. There's a better way for healthcare going forward if it's Bernie Sanders that leads us to that then I'm 100% okay with that.

My biggest fear is that setting our standard at Sanders M4A it allows Republicans to look like the adults by tackling drug prices and surprise billings in the interim. Or even worse, Republican governors just expand medicaid under the current system.

I say it's my worst fear, because I'd welcome all of those things, but that would allow them to be more regressive elsewhere.

I think Bernie will be the nom, I hope dems realize we're all in This together and I hope at the very least we have a public option.
 

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Did he bring the evangelical vote? cause IIRC Trump won it in most states.
Trump actually did poorly among people who attend church (a very different voting block than people who declare Christian but don't actually go to church). Cruz had those voters and that's why he stayed in the race so long. A lot of church-going vote were backing Rubio, Cruz, or ended up staying home in the primaries.

The combination of nominating Pence and then declaring he would pick a Supreme Court Justice from that particular list were the two factors that really got a good part of the White Evangelical church-going support in his favor in the general. Otherwise I think only a few more would have voted for Clinton but a lot more would have stayed home.
 

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Democrats are really going to let this irresponsible madman win the nomination? You hate to see it.

At this point I just hope Bernie wins (I’m doubtful) because we’re stuck with him now and the alternative is far more intolerable. It’s just wild to think about how fractured the Democratic Party’s looking right now. I was 19 when Barack ran in 2008 so I wasn’t as into politics but I don’t remember people on the left being so divided. We fighting like we not in the same party.
 
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