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I really don’t understand their issue with deporting people who committed violent crimes.
While I agree with that Tiffany Caban thread, I think a lot of the DSA/Twitter left is primarily concerned with just taking the most extreme left position, regardless of what that position actually is. It's all signalling. We live in a time of extreme polarization and it's only being exacerbated by our current communication platforms and technologies. Whereas previously you were socially punished for existing on the fringes of our ideological discourse, there is no longer any negative feedback for holding extreme positions. Just the opposite, in fact. Nuance is a punishable offense now. It's just the current era we're living in.
 

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There’s a lot of Mexican and Puerto Rico voters in Central Florida from what I read and they’re targeting that group.
Would like to see the numbers on that, but it's encouraging. If he's gonna go this route, he's gotta have a strategy to offset the wave of rejection.
 

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Cardiology director says there’s one heart measure Sanders could disclose but isn’t
Cardiology director says there's one heart measure Sanders could disclose but isn't
Exclusive: By releasing one simple indicator of his heart health, Sanders could address lingering questions, the president of the American College of Cardiology says.
Feb. 24, 2020, 4:00 PM EST
WASHINGTON — Democratic presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders has resisted calls to release additional medical information in the wake of a heart attack he suffered in October.

"We have released as much" medical information "as any other candidate," the Vermont senator told NBC News' "Meet the Press" earlier this month.

When pressed on whether he would release more, Sanders responded that, "you can start releasing medical records and it never ends."

But by releasing one simple indicator of his heart health, Sanders could address some lingering questions, the president of the American College of Cardiology, Richard Kovacs, tells NBC News.

Following Sanders’ heart attack, doctors inserted two stents in an artery and he was hospitalized for several days. After promising to release “comprehensive” records after the procedure, his campaign balked, saying no more informationwould be forthcoming.


“We released the full report of that heart attack,” Sanders said at last week's NBC News/MSNBC debate, pointing to letters from three doctors the campaign distributed in December, which are not the same as medical records.

Kovacs, who reviewed the letters for NBC News, said they omit a “standard” measure of Sanders’ heart health.

That indicator, called the left ventricular ejection fraction, is provided to any patient after a heart attack, Kovacs said. It’s a measure of how much blood volume the heart pushes out with an individual heartbeat and it correlates with the risk for future cardiac events and mortality rate. :jbhmm:

“Normally the heart will push out 60 percent,” Kovacs said. “If you go down to 40 or 50 percent, we regard that as mild impairment of the left ventricle. Thirty to 40 percent would be moderate. If you get to 30 percent, that would be severe.” :ohhh: :damn:


Sanders hasn’t revealed what the number was at the time of his heart attack nor what it is today. Campaign spokesman Mike Casca, responding to questions from NBC News, declined to provide the ejection fraction number to NBC. The doctors’ letters “are pretty comprehensive,” Casca told NBC News.

The letters, Kovacs said, “imply with the heart attack that he (Sanders) had diminished heart muscle strength,” or a lowered fraction. Still, the letters provided by his doctors also suggest he’s improved since then.

Full transparency would be to release his ejection fraction,” agreed Dr. Hadley Wilson, an ACC board trustee and cardiologist at the Sanger Heart & Vascular Institute in Charlotte, North Carolina.

“A subsequent stress test in January and the other information about his clinical response were all very positive and encouraging,” Wilson said. “I don’t really know” why Sanders wouldn’t release it, he added, offering that it could be over concern it could be “misconstrued” in the broader clinical picture. “It is an important baseline but it does have to be taken into the whole clinical context,” including the fact that Sanders hasn’t had additional incidents, which is all positive, he said.

Sanders is not a patient of Kovacs and Kovacs said he would not comment specifically on his condition. But he did note that presidents routinely release the results of similar health benchmarks like cholesterol and colonoscopy readings.

“It’s a patient’s personal private information but there’s the importance of the number,” Kovacs said.

One letter released by the campaign, from University of Vermont cardiologist Martin LeWinter, called Sanders’ heart function “stable and well preserved” but omits the number.

“I don’t know what that means but it’s not the ejection fraction which is just a simple number,” Kovacs said. “They’ve chosen not to reveal the ejection fraction.”

In another letter, Brian Monahan, attending physician at the U.S. Capitol and Sanders’ primary care doctor, said Sanders is in “good health” and that he has stopped taking several medications that were required after the heart attack.

Yet the ejection fraction rate would be a good indicator of the progress of Sanders’ recovery, Kovacs said.

“That is a number that we routinely obtain that is important for guiding therapy," Kovacs said. "I say here is your ejection fraction and here’s what we will need to do down the line.”






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The problem here is that the DSA left is the muscle of his campaign. They're his praetorian guard, and if he fukks around and starts moderating, he's liable to end up like Julius Ceasar. As you said, AOC, his biggest shooter, is probably going to have a VERY tough time with this. I think he just has to wait until he's got the nomination wrapped up before starting to pivot, because then they'll have nowhere else to go. What that pivot would spell for his Presidency, I don't know.
yes that's part of my problem with both Warren and Bernie's campaign going into a general election

Both of them are an extension of the NGO industrial complex that has gained political status because they've staked out positions in some of the biggest general election liabilities(mainly borders). And here's the thing I probably agree with most of these positions or whatever but it's something the left is gonna have trouble with because this is the first time we might be on a national scale.
 

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Well.

Well.

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Bernie Staffer Mocked Warren’s Looks, Pete’s Sexuality


Bernie Staffer Mocked Warren’s Looks, Pete’s Sexuality:
The private Twitter account of a newly promoted campaign staffer indicates that at least some of Sen. Bernie Sanders’ most toxic support is coming from inside the house.



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During the most recent presidential primary debate in Las Vegas, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) suggested that critiques of some of his most antagonistic online supporters are largely unfounded and unfair, proposing that some of the worst offenders might actually be Russian trolls on a mission to sow disunity in the field.

But the private Twitter account of a newly promoted campaign staffer indicates that despite his condemnation of online harassment, at least some of the Vermont senator’s most toxic support is coming from inside the house.

Using the account @perma_ben, Ben Mora, a regional field director for Sanders’ campaign based in Michigan, has attacked other Democrats in the field—as well as their family members, surrogates, journalists, and politically active celebrities—in deeply personal terms, mocking their physical appearance, gender, and sexuality, among other things.

Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN), Mora has tweeted, “looks like her name: pained, chunky, [and] confused origin/purpose.” Former South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg “is what happens when the therapist botches the conversion,” and his husband, Chasten, Mora predicts, will be “busted for running a meth racket” in 10 years. Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), a frequent subject of Mora’s private account, is called a “dumb Okie,” “an adult diaper fetishist” who “looks like shyt” and who lied about having Native American ancestry “to get into Harvard.”

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The account, from which Mora tweeted as recently as Sunday morning, is the latest example of a small subset of Sanders’ extremely online loyalists whose support for his candidacy is paired with extreme hostility to his rivals, critics, and those seen as insufficiently supportive of Sanders’ platform of democratic socialism.

For users familiar with the patois of Gay Lefty Twitter, many of the account’s tweets come across as fairly run-of-the-mill gay shytposts: tweets dragging the Queer Eye guys as neoliberals, mocking would-be #activist gays for shirtless photos on Instagram, or creating a meme wherein Mora’s followers share how their iPhone suggests completing the sentence “Elizabeth Warren lied about…” (Mora’s answer: “lied about being fat.”)

“Imagine having sex with a Warren gay like taking someone’s virginity is kind of a big deal…,” Mora tweeted on October 22 of last year, in a representative example.

But some of Mora’s tweets went beyond jokes in poor taste, like calling for Hillary Clinton to be catapulted from the face of the earth, into the kind of language that Sanders himself has called “disgusting.”

“When Warren talks about how she knows she’s Native American because of her ‘high cheekbones’ where sis? Another lie. You look like shyt,” Mora tweeted in October.

“Just got into a public screaming match with a gay staffer for the Democratic Party of Iowa who was trying to fukk me and let’s just say….. he cried and I’m not sorry,” Mora tweeted a few hours later. “This is if he had been a single modicum of hot I wouldn’t have protested at all but literally how dare you be a shill and also ugly with HORRIBLE BREATH.”

In another tweet, Mora likened Klobuchar’s face to “that optical illusion where it’s an old lady but also a young woman depending on how you look at it but with her it’s just two different old ladies.”

Buttigieg was “psychotic” for deploying to Afghanistan in 2009, Mora wrote in one tweet, adding in another that he could “never trust buttigieg because he combined the natural devious disposition inherent in gay men with a bloodthirsty careerist drive.”

A recent thread targeting former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg went beyond insults, instead directing Mora’s followers to phonebank for the billionaire candidate in order to enter bad data and “totally sink” his campaign.

“Spread the word guys im not joking it could really fukk up his entire campaign if enough people do this ....u just didn’t hear it from your old pal Ben,” Mora tweeted, encouraging followers to mark all strong Bloomberg supporters as “deceased,” which, he claimed, prevent the campaign from being able to contact them in the future.

Some targets of Mora’s cruelest comments aren’t even rival candidates, but are instead family members, campaign surrogates, and reporters.

“Chasten Buttigieg has the vibes of a housewife whose slow burning repression is leading to an inevitable psychotic break, mark my words in 10 years he will go missing and then resurface in Ft Lauderdale after getting busted for running a meth racket w a bunch of Guatemalan twinks,” Mora tweeted three days later.

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“Nate Silvers bullshyt starts to make a lot more sense when you realize he is probably the ugliest gay man to ever live,” Mora tweeted last September.

In one tweet accompanying professional photographs of Queer Eye stylist and Warren surrogate Jonathan Van Ness, Mora said that the streaming personality was “trying to look hot while Daddy Ronald Reagan watches him die of AIDS.” Van Ness, who once made a joke about Reagan’s use of pomade on the show, is openly HIV positive.

Mora, who joined the Sanders campaign last fall as an organizer in Iowa, locked the account roughly six months ago so that only followers—including at least one other person on the Sanders campaign payroll—could see what he tweeted. But the account, which features a photo of Mora as its avatar, links directly to his personal Instagram and shares its name as well, remains active, with more than 4,000 followers.

“The rise of Ben has been the greatest part of this election,” one recent follower responded on Friday.

Screenshots of the tweets were shared with The Daily Beast via one of Mora’s followers, who cited the “toxicity” of the posts as their motivation for doing so, expressing hope that their publication would help Sanders realize how deep the online harassment problem goes.

Some of Mora’s tweets were apparently so popular that Facebook users posted screenshots on Facebook—which, using Facebook’s optical character recognition algorithm, surfaced even more tweets than were sent by Mora’s perturbed follower.

One extremely popular tweet implied that Sanders manifested Kylie Jenner’s hospitalization for flu-like symptoms in September by declaring that “billionaires should not exist.” In another, Mora lauds Monica Lewinsky as “the queen of staying alive” for not being another notch in the “Clinton Body Count,” a conservative meme presupposing that Bill and Hillary Clinton have orchestrated a decades-long murder spree which counts Jeffrey Epstein, Seth Rich, and Vince Foster among its victims.

Additional tweets were surfaced through the website Archive.org, including a selfie of Mora in an “Iowa for Bernie” T-shirt, holding a bundle of direct mailers from a day of canvassing.

“Spent the day cyber bullying women IRL,” Mora tweeted along with the photo.

As harsh as the tweets in Mora’s protected account are, there may have been even more in a since-suspended account that Mora implies that he may have once run. In a tweet sharing a tote bag with the customized motto “Let’s Get Buttigieg To Quit” in rainbow lettering, Mora tweeted that “someone took a joke I made on [@FagsAgainstPete] and made this tote bag lmao.”

The Twitter account @FagsAgainstPete delivered what it promised, sharing aggressively anti-Buttigieg content in often sexual and scatalogical terms. Users on Instagram tagged Mora in photos of memes that had been taken from the account, which was eventually suspended by Twitter after sharing a thread of photo collages comparing The View panelist Meghan McCain to The Muppets character Miss Piggy.

Mora did not respond to a request for comment about the content of the account, or whether he ran or helped run @FagsAgainstPete. Representatives for the Sanders campaign also did not respond to requests for comment, or to questions about whether the campaign plans to take a more proactive role in combating online harassment by Sanders’ supporters in the future, particularly now that he is the frontrunner for the nomination.

Sanders has, whenever asked, condemned online harassment by his supporters, and declared that anyone doing so on his behalf is acting against his express wishes. But the Sanders campaign has still grappled with how to utilize the unparalleled energy and scale of his online support while discouraging followers whose enthusiasm manifests as harassment and abuse—and Sanders himself still appears reluctant to take the supporters at their own word.

“I saw some of those tweets regarding the Culinary Workers Union,” Sanders said in last week’s debate, asked about a campaign of abuse following the union’s criticism of his “Medicare for All” plan that prompted union officials to obtain personal security. “I have a 30-year, 100 percent pro-union voting record. You think I would support or anybody supports me would be attacking union leaders? It's not thinkable.”

For the rival campaigns whose candidates are targeted in Mora’s tweets, however, the behavior of some of Sanders’ online supporters is highly thinkable.

The Warren campaign declined to comment on Mora’s tweets, as did the Klobuchar and Bloomberg campaigns.

The Buttigieg campaign responded to the tweets by referring The Daily Beast to the candidate’s comments in last week’s debate, when the former mayor of South Bend told Sanders that “you have to accept some responsibility and ask yourself what it is about your campaign in particular that seems to be motivating this behavior more than others.”

Among Mora’s curated list of followers, however, the tweets are received with delight.

As one follower tweeted in October: “Really a shame you have to be on private with all these absolute hits.”

—with additional reporting by Adam Rawnsley






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NYC brehs - who has more sway in NYC (think broadly, not just where you align) - Bloomberg or De Blasio (who's endorsing Sanders)?
In NYC?It depends on who you ask and what neighborhood

No one on Long Island is supporting Bernie Sanders, I can tell you that much :russ:
 

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In NYC?It depends on who you ask and what neighborhood

No one on Long Island is supporting Bernie Sanders, I can tell you that much :russ:

My buddy in staten supports bernie

Anyway the line of thinking that bernie wont get anything done is a bit disingenuous. Republicans are gonna vote against pretty much anything sanders/warren proposes and probably a bunch of what pete would propose too.

The senate is really important.

Fact is the dem candidate that has the most enthusiasm is the most likely to get something done because they are most likely to have high turnout and flip the senate. Ya biden may be able to beat trump but can he inspire enough people to flip the senate or do well in 2022? Probably not. I understand the rationale that bernie may hurt certain candidates down ballot but he will help others. Prob net neutral for the house in 2020.
 

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Does LI vote dem or republican? I’d assume they’re like Orange County (or what OC used to be) in voting republican or conservative dem
It's a mix...

They will interpret Bernie the way FoxNews tells them to though. Remember, this is where guys like Peter King have had a flag firmly planted.

They will see his liberalism as pro-crime and pro illegal immigrant and pro higher property taxes.
 
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