2025 NYC Mayor Race

[King Kreole]

I don't think we are disagreeing, but diversity can go both ways. For diversity to be a good thing there has to be a melting pot going on at the same time. People speaking a bunch of languages and not being able to communicate and being isolated into separate communities is not a melting pot. People coming to the us, live here for 20 years and cannot fill out a voting ballot or government forms in English is crazy. That's not the good side of diversity

Ethnic enclaves are a fact of a heterogenous society, they're not a sign of problems in an of themselves. The problems arise when the various cultures and ethnic groupings feel as if there is resource scarcity and begin retreating to their distinctive corners, but again, the problem in this scenario isn't the fact of different groupings, it's the resource scarcity. No matter how homogenous a society is, resource scarcity will turn brother against brother.

Dude is bragging that NY has forms in 12 different languages, that is horrible

New York City is the principal city in the world, serving as the financial capital of the global hegemon. Like all of its predecessors in this regard, the incredible diversity of languages present in the city is a feature, not a bug. If you were to walk the streets of Rome in 115AD or Constantinople in the 16th Century or London in the 18th Century you would also hear multiple languages being spoken. The fact that NYC has that position in the age of globalization has just supercharged that phenomenon. If you were to snap your fingers and make NYC a unilingual city it would collapse in prominence and relevance overnight. Everyone calling NYC home should have one shared identity - be it as New Yorkers or as Americans - but that does not mandate the exclusion of their other identities - be they ethnic or linguistic. Canada, for example, has long prided itself on rejecting the melting pot framework, instead considering itself a salad bowl or cultural mosaic.

Look at Canada. A lot of people don't realize how close Canada was and is to breaking apart over language diversity, that's an example of what not to do in the US

The Anglo-Franco tensions in Canadian history aren't due to the variety of languages that are spoken, it's more or less just run of the mill civil tensions when two large ethnic groups dominate a national project. Toronto and Montreal are each incredibly diverse cities with multiple languages being spoken, yet there is no notable intra-city ethnic tensions. The tension is at the national level between two ethnic groups, and are as much related to religion (Catholic vs Protestant) and power politics as it is to language.

 

[King Kreole]

But let's analyze this diversity concept deeper, let's apply the "diversity is strength" theory, it follows that if the second generation does NOT speak English this will strengthen the US. Which imo is obviously bs and shows how diversity can be a bad thing. Cuz it will create a country of even more factions than there is now.

Diversity is a strength because if I'm a promising Russian physicist or an Chinese elite gymnastics coach or a Nigerian entrepreneur, my poor english skills are a prohibition on my moving to NYC to contribute my skills and talents under an American banner. If you say "You need to speak English at a high proficiency to contribute to our national project" those folks are going to go to Toronto or some other city/society that can better accommodate their situation. This is literally the story of how America became a super power. Lowest barriers out of any society for people from all over the globe, no matter their language or ethnicity, to come and contribute. Which is what makes the MAGA movement's attempts to close the borders so suicidal.

 

[King Kreole]

Have you met Mamdani in his 20s?

This guy??



This is your scary Islamist??

Your brain is so fukking cooked and racist you see a normal brown guy making rap videos and think he's fukking Sayyid Qutb

 

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[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

This guy??



This is your scary Islamist??

Your brain is so fukking cooked and racist you see a normal brown guy making rap videos and think he's fukking Sayyid Qutb

Zohran Mamdani, Third-Worldism, and the Algerian Revolution

Third-World Resentment

www.zinebriboua.com

 

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[King Kreole]

Zohran Mamdani, Third-Worldism, and the Algerian Revolution

Third-World Resentment

www.zinebriboua.com

Yes I had the misfortune of reading this dreck earlier. It was more original in its first iteration as a turd squeezed out of Colman Hughes' colon. You idiots are doing all this gesticulating over what is completely run of the mill politics for many millennials and Zoomers. Zohran has the same ideology as my social set, if you want to call it "Third Worldism" or "Islamic Nationalism" to account for the actual historical events of the colonial era then have at it, intelligent people will just disregard you as a midwit.

 

[theworldismine13]

Diversity is a strength because if I'm a promising Russian physicist or an Chinese elite gymnastics coach or a Nigerian entrepreneur, my poor english skills are a prohibition on my moving to NYC to contribute my skills and talents under an American banner. If you say "You need to speak English at a high proficiency to contribute to our national project" those folks are going to go to Toronto or some other city/society that can better accommodate their situation. This is literally the story of how America became a super power. Lowest barriers out of any society for people from all over the globe, no matter their language or ethnicity, to come and contribute. Which is what makes the MAGA movement's attempts to close the borders so suicidal.

You haven't addressed my point which is what if the second generation does NOT know English, how would that strengthen the US?

You're theory says that if you have generations of people not speaking English it would strengthen the US

But the examples you gave are of people that come to the US and learn English and integrate into the economy

This whole thing about having forms and websites in different languages is a modern liberal phenomena it goes against the traditional way America integrated new people, which is to force people to learn English, traditionally in America if you don't know English you wouldn't get far, what is the purpose of changing that?

The second generation not knowing English creates a Canada problem at best, all that would don is create populations that are recreating the countries they are coming from as opposed to integrating into America

 

[theworldismine13]

Ethnic enclaves are a fact of a heterogenous society, they're not a sign of problems in an of themselves. The problems arise when the various cultures and ethnic groupings feel as if there is resource scarcity and begin retreating to their distinctive corners, but again, the problem in this scenario isn't the fact of different groupings, it's the resource scarcity. No matter how homogenous a society is, resource scarcity will turn brother against brother.


New York City is the principal city in the world, serving as the financial capital of the global hegemon. Like all of its predecessors in this regard, the incredible diversity of languages present in the city is a feature, not a bug. If you were to walk the streets of Rome in 115AD or Constantinople in the 16th Century or London in the 18th Century you would also hear multiple languages being spoken. The fact that NYC has that position in the age of globalization has just supercharged that phenomenon. If you were to snap your fingers and make NYC a unilingual city it would collapse in prominence and relevance overnight. Everyone calling NYC home should have one shared identity - be it as New Yorkers or as Americans - but that does not mandate the exclusion of their other identities - be they ethnic or linguistic. Canada, for example, has long prided itself on rejecting the melting pot framework, instead considering itself a salad bowl or cultural mosaic.


The Anglo-Franco tensions in Canadian history aren't due to the variety of languages that are spoken, it's more or less just run of the mill civil tensions when two large ethnic groups dominate a national project. Toronto and Montreal are each incredibly diverse cities with multiple languages being spoken, yet there is no notable intra-city ethnic tensions. The tension is at the national level between two ethnic groups, and are as much related to religion (Catholic vs Protestant) and power politics as it is to language.

lol, a lot of what you are saying is not true at all

Ethnic enclaves are not a problem unless the ethnic enclave includes vast portions of territory and independent structures outside of the central government, which is what Quebec is

That's why it's very dangerous for the country to have vast amounts of the southwest to have Spanish be the de facto office language and having generations of people that don't speak English

if you walked in Rome and Constantinople and London there was an overarching culture and language that people had to integrate into and it's not the only reason but language is one of the reasons the Roman Empire separated into two capitals of Rome and Constantinople

You can analyze the details of Canada all you want but Canada almost and might break up and language is one of the main reasons for it. Canada is an example of why it's important to only have one language in America. Why do you say that Canada has prided itself in being a salad bowl like it's a good thing? What has canada gotten by being a salad bowl aside from being on the constant verge of breaking up?

 

[Creflo ½ Dollar]

This gne be the death of the democratic socialists…

 

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Yes I had the misfortune of reading this dreck earlier. It was more original in its first iteration as a turd squeezed out of Colman Hughes' colon. You idiots are doing all this gesticulating over what is completely run of the mill politics for many millennials and Zoomers. Zohran has the same ideology as my social set, if you want to call it "Third Worldism" or "Islamic Nationalism" to account for the actual historical events of the colonial era then have at it, intelligent people will just disregard you as a midwit.

Will the world be a better place when it’s more amenable to the displace islamist diaspora?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Diversity is a strength because if I'm a promising Russian physicist or an Chinese elite gymnastics coach or a Nigerian entrepreneur, my poor english skills are a prohibition on my moving to NYC to contribute my skills and talents under an American banner. If you say "You need to speak English at a high proficiency to contribute to our national project" those folks are going to go to Toronto or some other city/society that can better accommodate their situation. This is literally the story of how America became a super power. Lowest barriers out of any society for people from all over the globe, no matter their language or ethnicity, to come and contribute. Which is what makes the MAGA movement's attempts to close the borders so suicidal.

Diversity is a strength is a good recruitment tool, it’s not an active practice and you’d be wise to not fall victim to such blatant propaganda.

 

[Creflo ½ Dollar]

Diversity is a strength is a good recruitment tool, it’s not an active practice and you’d be wise to not fall victim to such blatant propaganda.

Diversity is a strength until resources become scarce, which they eventually will or until that one small group gets enough foothold to become big. Then u get people fall back on tribalism and hate. Muslims want u to think diversity is strength but soon as they get in a big group they ain’t allowing anymore diversity…same things with Indians and Chinese and Jews. Honestly when it comes to Americans only Blacks, whites (most recently and reluctantly ) and Hispanics was real serious about having diverse society and communities. All these other people try to have cultural enclaves that try to “force” the native outsiders out. I dnt fukk wiht America but u can’t have diversity without assimilation that shyt will cause rifts down the line. Alot of the hardcore conservative faction of Jews Hindus and Muslims ride the liberal diverse wave then later group up and push the natives out.

 

[King Kreole]

You haven't addressed my point which is what if the second generation does NOT know English, how would that strengthen the US?

You're theory says that if you have generations of people not speaking English it would strengthen the US

But the examples you gave are of people that come to the US and learn English and integrate into the economy

This whole thing about having forms and websites in different languages is a modern liberal phenomena it goes against the traditional way America integrated new people, which is to force people to learn English, traditionally in America if you don't know English you wouldn't get far, what is the purpose of changing that?

The second generation not knowing English creates a Canada problem at best, all that would don is create populations that are recreating the countries they are coming from as opposed to integrating into America

I don't believe 2nd generation Americans not knowing how to speak English is a practice that should be actively promoted. The vast majority do know how to speak English because they grew up in a public school system that uses English as the primary/sole language. Ideally everyone knows every language but the tower of Babel fell so we're dealing with a multilingual world. And the strict enforcement of one language would weaken the US by dissuading immigration from around the world, leading to a brain drain from those immigrants who aren't proficient in English. I would see your point if people of different languages were completely incapable of interacting with each other, but that's obviously not the case. It's about being an inclusive, welcoming society instead of an insular, closed off society.

My point is that the presence of multiple languages in a place like New York City is not indicative of a problem, and is in fact actually a boon to the prosperity of the city. NYC is a global city. It's the financial capital of the world. Most of the people who are unable to speak English in NYC are 1st gen immigrants who are contributing value to the city and as members of society have the right to societal/governmental services. Their children are most often bilingual and will choose to speak a certain language when the context calls for it. It is obviously better to be bi/multilingual than unilingual.

And this is absolutely the way America traditionally integrated new people. How many languages do you think you would hear at Ellis Island on any given day at the turn of the 20th century? Interpreter - Ellis Island Part of Statue of Liberty National Monument (U.S. National Park Service)

America isn't a language, it's a society. There are and have been many high-value Americans who cannot speak English yet still integrate into America by providing social, economic, or cultural value.

 

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