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if Trump wasn't a one term loser in 2020, and had to preside over that post-covid inflation, President Newsom is in the White House today. after crushing Cruz/Rubio in 2024 :dead:

there's only one lesson to take from the past 5 years; don't nominate Kamala in 2028
I don't think anyone could have won in 2024, momentum was always going to swing to republicans after a inflation causing term. I actually think Kamala saved down ballot dems. I never been on this throw her under the bus newsome train. He may have done even worse. im not sold on him like you're. With that said kamala shouldn't run for the simple fact she's not a great public speaker. Newsome shouldn't run either but that's a totally different discussion
 

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I don't think anyone could have won in 2024, momentum was always going to swing to republicans after a inflation causing term. I actually think Kamala saved down ballot dems. I never been on this throw her under the bus newsome train. He may have done even worse. im not sold on him like you're. With that said kamala shouldn't run for the simple fact she's not a great public speaker. Newsome shouldn't run either but that's a totally different discussion
for the record, if you have someone better than Genocide Josh for '28, i'm all ears

i don't give a fukk about Shapiro, just don't personally see anyone better emerging, between state importance/political ability

Ossoff might get in the mix if he wins next year, but if he loses, he's a nonstarter. Gallego, Kelly, maybe

i'm just not buying that the '28 nominee is someone whose name we aren't throwing around already. highly unlikely :dead:
 

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He was the only one offering a vision, leading with shyt like no tax on tips and no tax on soxial security so by default to them he won. Take that up with the democrats running on nothing not me :hubie:

So Kamala ran on nothing and trump offered a vision.

I see why people don’t take you serious and consider you a closeted trump supporter.
 

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Why would that cause him to lose support? That kind of rhetoric is why Trump came to power in the first place.

In the current social environment this probably just helps Vance.
Key is how Trump came to power. A lot of these other fools are just along for the ride. Nobody really fukks with Vance like that. Trump isn’t on the ballot next year. His unpopular policies are. Yes 33% are his ride or die. They will always vote for him/Republican. Contrary to popular belief most ppl don’t actually want what Fuentes and Vance are selling. 90 million ppl decided not to vote.
 

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So Kamala ran on nothing and trump offered a vision.

I see why people don’t take you serious and consider you a closeted trump supporter.
She primarily ran on trump being a threat to democracy and abortion being on the ballot. I'm not sure those will fix inflation but maybe im off based there:patrice:. Irregardless of the fact its pretty obvious trump won the populist battle which is sad as hell.
 
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She primarily ran on trump being a threat to democracy and abortion being on the ballot. I'm not sure those will fix inflation but maybe im off based there:patrice:. Irregardless of the fact its pretty obvious trump won the populist battle which is sad as hell.

I see people always talking about how you just regurgitate what the algorithm says to you. And you are currently making those people 1000% right.

We was there last year when Kamala constantly talked about policies, but twitter constantly said the opposite. While trump was being a lying racist buffoon over and over and over again, but he presented a vision. When we all knew project 2025 was his platform.


You sir are a fukkin idiot.
 

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I see people always talking about how you just regurgitate what the algorithm says to you. And you are currently making those people 1000% right.

Thing about politics you don't need a algorithm to discuss stump speeches and what candidates are running on.

Majority of kamala speeches focused on:
Trump being a threat to democracy
project 2025
Trump being a crook
How general's hate him
How ex republicans hate him ( liz cheney)
Abortion on the ballot
She tried to steal his no tax on tips but no one cared
Originally said she would go after price gougers but walked it back due to donor pressure.
Wouldn't commit to keeping bidens regulation policy
Didn't call out any of bidens failures why would swing voters back this?

Trumps:
No tax on ss and tips ( fraudulent)
Immigrants stealing jobs
Inflation being out of control
Biden bringing in immigrants to steal jobs/housing
Gas prices being high
Tarrif rambling while insane to me its a change and admitting the economy sucks
interest rates being high


As a democrat he's a nut but when you think about it from a swing voter perspective it's not surprising
We was there last year when Kamala constantly talked about policies

i was and called it out at the time of howweak her policies were
but twitter constantly said the opposite. While trump was being a lying racist buffoon over and over and over again, but he presented a visio
none of this has to do with swing voters idk what u babbling about they don't ccare he a racist buffon they care about how far they pay checks stretch
. When we all knew project 2025 was his platform.


You sir are a fukkin idiot.
Useless to a swing voter this marketable to democrats. Hopefully going forward democrats can run on how they will change people's material needs instead of losing to a fat racist who running on right wing populism outflanking them
 
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Thing about politics you don't need a algorithm to discuss stump speeches and what candidates are running on.

Majority of kamala speeches focused on:
Trump being a threat to democracy
project 2025
Trump being a crook
How general's hate him
How ex republicans hate him ( liz cheney)
Abortion on the ballot
She tried to steal his no tax on tips but no one cared
Originally said she would go after price gougers but walked it back due to donor pressure.
Wouldn't commit to keeping bidens regulation policy
Didn't call out any of bidens failures why would swing voters back this?

Trumps:
No tax on ss and tips ( fraudulent)
Immigrants stealing jobs
Inflation being out of control
Biden bringing in immigrants to steal jobs
Gas prices being high
interest rates being high


As a democrat he's a nut but when you think about it from a swing voter perspective it's not surprising


i was and called it out at the time of howweak her policies were

none of this has to do with swing voters idk what u babbling about they don't ccare he a racist buffon they care about how far they pay checks stretch

Useless to a swing voter this marketable to democrats
Trump talks about no tax on tips. Kamala
Says yeah I’m with it too but let’s cap it so rich people can’t use. That’s not stealing. That’s what a politician that’s actually for the people is supposed to do dummy. You have fallen hook line and sinker for the trump politics. Everything the other side says and does is trash.


You can continue to be silly and act as if oh the swing voters went to trump for his vision and polices. When in reality a huge section of them was not about to vote for no black woman even though her polices would benefit them more.

Go be willfully obtuse somewhere else.
 

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Trump talks about no tax on tips. Kamala
Says yeah I’m with it too

so why wasn't she pushing Biden to get that done? You realize it looks bad she chasing right wing populism ideas from the left right? For a swing voter it appears trump knew what he was doing kamala was copying whatever Trump offered
but let’s cap it so rich people can’t use. That’s not stealing. That’s what a politician that’s actually for the people is supposed to do dummy. You have fallen hook line and sinker for the trump politics. Everything the other side says and does is trash.

What are you babbling about all trumps ideas is garbage, im telling you he ran on right wing populism to fix the economy and kamala ran on essentially more of the same Bidenomics
You can continue to be silly and act as if oh the swing voters went to trump for his vision and polices. When in reality a huge section of them was not about to vote for no black woman even though her polices would benefit them more.

Go be willfully obtuse somewhere else.
None of this is coherent
 

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so why wasn't she pushing Biden to get that done? You realize it looks bad she chasing right wing populism ideas from the left right? For a swing voter it appears trump knew what he was doing kamala was copying whatever Trump offered


What are you babbling about all trumps ideas is garbage, im telling you he ran on right wing populism to fix the economy and kamala ran on essentially more of the same Bidenomics

None of this is coherent
You’re contradicting yourself.

Trump was brought up as proof that swing voters can’t be trusted to not elect lunatic Republicans. The filibuster should stay in place until 1) The republicans become a sane party again and 2) they in good faith compete with the democrats for the vote of all Americans and not just White men.

Until those two things happen the risk becomes asymmetrical with minorities holding the bag if shyt hits the fan.

I don’t want to risk the well being of minorities just so you can have an expansion of government for a cycle or two just for another lunatic “populist” Republican more evil and intelligent than Trump to come in and either destroy it or weaponize it against Americans they don’t like
 

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You’re contradicting yourself.

Exact opposite
Trump was brought up as proof that swing voters can’t be trusted to not elect lunatic Republicans.

We still doing this blame the voters thing instead of the politicans and policies dems govern with :dead:

The filibuster should stay in place until 1) The republicans become a sane party again and 2) they in good faith compete with the democrats for the vote of all Americans and not just White men.

Stupid cnn liberal babble
Until those two things happen the risk becomes asymmetrical with minorities holding the bag if shyt hits the fan.
Minorities have been holding the bag for 70 years tf are you babbling about 😆

I don’t want to risk the well being of minorities just so you can have an expansion of government for a cycle or two just for another lunatic “populist”

This is just liberal babble.

" well being of minorities" like what in the fukk does this mean? Mind you you're the same guy going on a faux news babble fest against immigration Haitians somalis trans, muslims gays women etc with cac mamba every other week. Do you only mean american black people or something ? This is just incoherent cnn babble
Republican more evil and intelligent than Trump to come in and either destroy it or weaponize it against Americans they don’t like
They already have and will continue doing thay. The filibuster isn't stopping this. What country do you live in?
 

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Exact opposite


We still doing this blame the voters thing instead of the politicans and policies dems govern with :dead:



Stupid cnn liberal babble

Minorities have been holding the bag for 70 years tf are you babbling about 😆



This is just liberal babble.

" well being of minorities" like what in the fukk does this mean? Mind you you're the same guy going on a faux news babble fest against immigration Haitians somalis trans, muslims gays women etc with cac mamba every other week. Do you only mean american black people or something ? This is just incoherent cnn babble

They already have and will continue doing thay. The filibuster isn't stopping this. What country do you live in?


That algorithm short circuiting boyyy :russ:
 
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