ClemenzaSupreme
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I've been to multiple Nas arena shows. Can Jim Jones fill one let alone a tour?
At the end of the day, Nas only has himself to blame for Gen Z rejecting him. All that reclusive and antisocial shyt has done him no favors and he's been living off Illmatic for decades.
Apart from a bunch of albums that no one outside of his core fanbase was checking for nothing he's done within the last 20 years has penetrated the culture. Zero presence on social media. No impact on fashion or in media. No club or street anthems. No slaps for the hoes. No iconic verses/features. No time or cultural defining moments.
Why the fukk would Gen Z care about him
Jim Jones being even remotely lit is a weirdthat has been being perpetuated by some other old dusty nigs here and there I’ve been noticing. Nowhere on earth, no place, is Jim Jones poppin. Nobody is buying Jim Jones music, he doesn’t have a fan base besides the aforementioned old rusty probably washed tri-state residual Dipset fans with dry hands and bad knees/hairlines.
Ballin was a hit record in rap…no none rap heads can name another Jim Jones record, if they even name that one, I promise. Outside of the tri-state, some rap heads can’t even name another Jim Jones record.
Kid is 22, so born 2003
I wouldn’t expect nothing less
No, but he was the first to wear Chrome Hearts & bedazzled beltsI've been to multiple Nas arena shows. Can Jim Jones fill one let alone a tour?
Put Jimmy on tour with Wu Tang im sure he couldI've been to multiple Nas arena shows. Can Jim Jones fill one let alone a tour?
Shh been in all types of movies and tv shows, etc… Speaking of TV, Nas records was all over the playoffs and shh during the Hitboy run. Get cha shhit off tho champ, 🫡.
Somebody put up Nas and Jones album sales side by side, let’s compare and contrast…I mean this is an objective ‘argument’ if we talking numbers, let’s get to choppin this fable
Thats what i dont understand. Nas features went crazy from 92-99.Nas damn near ruined that song you can't be serious. Damian Marley came in with heat and slaughtered those first two verses spitting some real shyt only for Nasir to follow that up with some smart dumb pseudo-intellectual babble.
That song probably would've been a massive hit if he did anything to elevate it.
When I went to the Life Is Good concert 2 years ago it was a lot of young folks. Granted I live in New York lolTheres been this psyop Im seeing online coming from older heads for a minute now that Jones is the most relevant of the older heads with the NY/NJ kids. People in the tri state would know best but I dont see it resonate from out of there and I dont know what cuts hes got that are making noise, which is more of a damnation of NYC.
Nas for a minute now has never had a mass amount of the youth as his listener base...and yet out of all the 90s rappers he probably has the most younger fans if that makes sense, just off the strength of Illmatic being a rite of passage and still making music with people like Ye and Hit Boy in recent years. Spicy was probably the closest to which he made noise on a regional level and maybe Wave Gods both cause of the features.
Whats been surprising to me is how much Hov has gotten less traction with the youth cause I always felt he'd be one of those rite of passage rappers like Nas, Big etc. But I think hes been away so long hes sort of out of sight and out of mind.
I think out of all the rappers from the older era from NY that still have the youth is probably 50 cause of his influence on Pop Smoke.
And as far as hits go, Jim has been without a hit damn near as long as Nas and I would venture to say Nas has more from the 90s/early 00s than Jim in the 00s. Ballin and Pop Champagne are about it and really its only Ballin.
And he can get out of here with saying the Heatmarkerz shyt is better than Hit Boy we've seen this for a minute, we know what tracks more.
Bro I'm drinking right now but Im tempted to make this a thread(nas has no hits)Thats what i dont understand. Nas features went crazy from 92-99.
Over the last 20 years Dude did songs with
Bieber
Jay
Eminem
Future
A track with Jeezy, Nicki & Drake
Amy Winehouse
Miguel
Chris Brown
Mary J
Peak Ross
50 Cent
J Cole
Jhene
Durk
Wayne
Rocky
Big Sean
Khaled
Lil Nas X
Not one song moved the needle
I swear for god if i got looks from all them. At least one of them shyts would still be played forever in hiphop
Put Jimmy on tour with Wu Tang im sure he could
In New York after 3 months with guest scheduledNas sold out an Arena without Wu try again