44th Straight Summer of Basketball Purgatory: Official Washington Wizards 2023 Offseason Thread

[SAJ!!]

Thoughts on Scott Perry?

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Don't do it.

 

[Easy-E]

2020: Kira Lewis is worse than our Deni Avdija pick. And Tommy Sheppard told Haliburton he was taking him but then Deni slid.

2021: Langdon did way better than Sheppard. Got Trey and Herb. Signed Jose. We got Kispert who’s.. ok and Isaiah Todd who will need to learn Chinese or a European language soon

2022: I’d rather have Dyson rather than Johnny Davis

I will not allow TL to live off that 21 offseason like we won something; as good as TM3 and Herb are, we started the season 3-16

The Richardson move was odd as the young wings were fine.

Pels definitely needed a true PG to get everyone organized. CJ should be playing SG.

This is unforgivable not to get as a PG and a backup big when Kira (our PG) gets so many DMP-CD's and nobody seems to know what to do with Jaxson Hayes

Jalen McDaniels, Saddiq Bey, Jarred Vanderbilt (Utah been killing us for the last two seasons), Jakob Poeltl, Reggie Jackson, Bojan (who I think is expiring, so I kinda get it)

All got move for little to nothing

We didn't make a deal with TOR for GTJr and OG

The CJ move was great because we swung for a playoff spot and got it...then we bytched up at the 23 Trade Deadline

There should be a featured dude on this team SPECIFICALLY to make up for the games Zion misses and will miss next year

But, I swear we won't get that guy

 

[storyteller]

Thoughts on Scott Perry?

He's mid, and judging him is tough because Steve Mills was the president during Perry's most consequential years. That whole era was a disaster, and it was never easy to figure out who was making decisions on the roster. For every crap move, there was a rumor about Perry talking Mills out of some far worse decision in the process.

He did have an infatuation with turning his failed draft picks into reclamation projects on the Knicks. But the Knicks have drafted pretty well while he's been around, and he was directly credited with some good decisions (ie: pushing For Mitchell Robinson without being able to work him out).

His approach to contracts was interesting too. He's big on team options, which is good for flexibility. But I'm not sure the dude ever had a "roster-building" vision. Example: He signed Julius Randle, Marcus Morris, and Bobby Portis. Those are three pretty good players, but they don't fit together at all. They didn't fit together whatsoever. But he let Portis expire; traded Morris for a pick that turned into Immanuel Quickley; and Randle became a two-time All-Star.

Since Leon Rose took over, it seems like Perry is less involved. But he's been around for a quality rebuild, so that warrants some props.

 

[Mr swag]

There are no good options.

 

[FAH1223]

There are no good options.

????

 

[Rev]

He's mid, and judging him is tough because Steve Mills was the president during Perry's most consequential years. That whole era was a disaster, and it was never easy to figure out who was making decisions on the roster. For every crap move, there was a rumor about Perry talking Mills out of some far worse decision in the process.

He did have an infatuation with turning his failed draft picks into reclamation projects on the Knicks. But the Knicks have drafted pretty well while he's been around, and he was directly credited with some good decisions (ie: pushing For Mitchell Robinson without being able to work him out).

His approach to contracts was interesting too. He's big on team options, which is good for flexibility. But I'm not sure the dude ever had a "roster-building" vision. Example: He signed Julius Randle, Marcus Morris, and Bobby Portis. Those are three pretty good players, but they don't fit together at all. They didn't fit together whatsoever. But he let Portis expire; traded Morris for a pick that turned into Immanuel Quickley; and Randle became a two-time All-Star.

Since Leon Rose took over, it seems like Perry is less involved. But he's been around for a quality rebuild, so that warrants some props.

Yep, you covered it 100%.

 

[FAH1223]

He's mid, and judging him is tough because Steve Mills was the president during Perry's most consequential years. That whole era was a disaster, and it was never easy to figure out who was making decisions on the roster. For every crap move, there was a rumor about Perry talking Mills out of some far worse decision in the process.

He did have an infatuation with turning his failed draft picks into reclamation projects on the Knicks. But the Knicks have drafted pretty well while he's been around, and he was directly credited with some good decisions (ie: pushing For Mitchell Robinson without being able to work him out).

His approach to contracts was interesting too. He's big on team options, which is good for flexibility. But I'm not sure the dude ever had a "roster-building" vision. Example: He signed Julius Randle, Marcus Morris, and Bobby Portis. Those are three pretty good players, but they don't fit together at all. They didn't fit together whatsoever. But he let Portis expire; traded Morris for a pick that turned into Immanuel Quickley; and Randle became a two-time All-Star.

Since Leon Rose took over, it seems like Perry is less involved. But he's been around for a quality rebuild, so that warrants some props.

Thanks breh

It seems like he's a better drafter than Tommy Sheppard but not by that much

 

[Blackrogue]

sounds like all the candidates suck who knew so many incompetent people existed

 

[RickyGQ]

Scott Perry is no Steve Mills, so I guess that's a good thing. The Knicks had too many cooks in the kitchen, so I can't call it with him. He did have a love affair with Elfrid Payton though.

Just keep him away from PGs that can't shoot.

Yea this. The Knicks have been a pretty tight lipped front office for a while now so it’s hard to tell whose decisions were what. I truly can’t tell if he was solid or not but he has been here through the entire rebuild so there’s that. After failing to get KD, they pivoted and signed Julius Randle and a bunch of other cheaper vets who didn’t really amount to much. But they never mortgaged the future and are part of why we are in the really good position we are in now. So i guess that’s good?

Edit: I always post something in reply to someone, only to continue the thread and find out @storyteller already made my point plus some, a lot more clear and concise too.

 

[Miles Davis]

Don't do it.

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[tremonthustler1]

sounds like all the candidates suck who knew so many incompetent people existed

y'all need Langdon

 

[Dad]

I’m tired of this rebuilding shyt.

 

[mastermind]

I’m tired of this rebuilding shyt.

We haven't started to rebuild.

 

[K-ZOE]

Perry's go to move is to acquire failed prospects his two awful former teams, Kings and Magic, made a mistake drafting and then try to rehabilitate them because he still believes they have talent. It was insanity, it's not like he came from a winning franchise and was poaching young talent that couldn't break into a championship team but instead he was taking failures from failure franchises that he had a hand in scouting/drafting.

I always thought that Dolan kept him as his inside man to keep close to Leon Rose because he had to fire Steve Mills, who was previously his ear.

WaPo article tried to credit him with acquiring Brunson when we all know that Brunson came to Knicks because of Mavs fukk up and family connection. I can't speak on his draft input so maybe there's hope for you there

This is what I'd have said if he didn't say it first. He coveted Elfrid Payton as a player. Thats all you need to know.

 

[intruder]

I COME IN PEACE.


So what would it take for ya'll to give up Beal to the Miami Heat?