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[Draje]

fukk it, nikkas acting like AI is clearly out of Nash's leagues...we can compare how they did against similar defenses in the playoffs because they BOTH got beat by San Antonio in 06-07 while both had "legit options" near the exact same age. Iverson was 31 and Nash was 32.

Iverson Stats In the 06-07 playoff series against the Spurs:

22.8 PPG (36% FG) / 5.8 AST / .6 REB / 1.4 STL in 44 minutes

Nash's STATS in the 06-07 playoff series against the Spurs:

21.3 PPG (48% FG) / 12.7 AST / 3.7 REB / .3 STLs in 38 minutes.

Melo and Amare (Who actually missed a game) were similar players who had similar stat lines. Iverson was one year younger than Nash. They both went against the same exact team with similar help around them and Basg straight up outperformed Iverson.

But we gonna ignore this and act like its a travesty to think that Nash and Iverson aren't comparable? To think that Prime Mash couldn't do what Iverson did if he wanted to score instead of be a playmaker?

 

[Draje]

Prime Iverson second option was mckie. Nash wasn't even the best player on that team STAT was.

Nash was, by far, the engine of that team and the best player. It's why Amare got injured and Nash led that team to a top 2 offense by his damn self. It's the fukking reason he got the MVP and he did it at the same age as Iverson did when he Iverson joined the Nuggets with Melo.

Anyone who watched the Suns, especially in the playoffs, knows it was Nash that was the offense for that team and the reason Amare got the looks he did it.

We acting like Nash isn't one of the best playmakers of all time now?

 

[#SOG_soldier]

Nash was, by far, the engine of that team and the best player. It's why Amare got injured and Nash led that team to a top 2 offense by his damn self. It's the fukking reason he got the MVP and he did it at the same age as Iverson did when he Iverson joined the Nuggets with Melo.

Anyone who watched the Suns, especially in the playoffs, knows it was Nash that was the offense for that team and the reason Amare got the looks he did it.

We acting like Nash isn't one of the best playmakers of all time now?

Stat made Felton look like an all star. Nash played zero defense and was a product of d tony system. Stat took Tim soul against the spurs. He was our best player. Nash was our best offensive player but he is calderon status on defense. At least ai got steals.

 

[Draje]

Stat made Felton look like an all star. Nash played zero defense and was a product of d tony system. Stat took Tim soul against the spurs. He was our best player. Nash was our best offensive player but he is calderon status on defense. At least ai got steals.

Again, Nash still had an amazing record during a season when STAT missed the entire thing and posted similar numbers even without him.

Stat wasn't a good defensive player either.

And again, AI got steals but Nash got assists, was an unguardable and efficient scorer, and made every single teammate better. When did Stat make Felton look like an all-star? The season where the Knicks won 14 less games than the Nash led the Suns too, in a stronger conference and with Stat injured?

So Nash and Stat have a 62 win season, Amare gets injured, and Nash leads them to a 54 win season.

Healthy Amare and Felton to a 42 wins in a much weaker conference and you're trying to say that Amare made Nash? Are you fukking high?

 

[DlAMONDZ]

Lol at nikkas acting like Nash isn't better than AI

Nash is a goat shooter, floor general and a crazy efficient scorer

If I had to choose between the 2 to build my team around, I'll go with Nash without thinking twice

Only reason he didn't get to the Finals was because he was going up against the Spurs with Tim Duncan in his prime

 

[DIMES]

fukk outta here bruh. When was he NOT the best player on the Spurs during a championship run outside of the 2014 title and even that's debatable

Duncan lost that title since 2006

 

[Kd35brah]

Stat made Felton look like an all star. Nash played zero defense and was a product of d tony system. Stat took Tim soul against the spurs. He was our best player. Nash was our best offensive player but he is calderon status on defense. At least ai got steals.

You rip Nash's defense and ignore STAT's defense as a CENTER and Iverson's trash defense

Lol at STAT being the better player.

 

[gho3st]

A lot of arbitrary stats going into his analysis.

The man is indeed a hater, must've had a girlfriend crush on Iverson or something. He brought up that the Pistons made the playoffs every year from 02-08 until Iverson came in 09. But Iverson played no more than 14 games with those Pistons... Yep Iverson's fault lol.

Stats don't always tell the story man, someone could have ONE turnover the entire game, but tha turnover could cost you the game. Stats wouldn't tell you how detrimental that blundered play actually was.

Just enjoy the sport y'all.

thats how you want to spin it uh?

 

[DIMES]

Again, Nash still had an amazing record during a season when STAT missed the entire thing and posted similar numbers even without him.

Stat wasn't a good defensive player either.

And again, AI got steals but Nash got assists, was an unguardable and efficient scorer, and made every single teammate better. When did Stat make Felton look like an all-star? The season where the Knicks won 14 less games than the Nash led the Suns too, in a stronger conference and with Stat injured?

So Nash and Stat have a 62 win season, Amare gets injured, and Nash leads them to a 54 win season.

Healthy Amare and Felton to a 42 wins in a much weaker conference and you're trying to say that Amare made Nash? Are you fukking high?

Bruh don't you remember Amare first year with Knicks before Melo ?

He was the MVP front runner at one point. It was short lived but he was DOMINATING. And Felton was putting up Steve Nash #s for a long stretch with him .... 17-18 pts & 9 assists


Obviously nash is much better but u have to admit he had a lot of help with the phx system & amare. I mean his best years started after he was what? ... 31? 32? That's is odd.

 

[#SOG_soldier]

You rip Nash's defense and ignore STAT's defense as a CENTER and Iverson's trash defense

Stat got blocks and ai lead the nba in steels multiple times. Nash is a revolving door on defense.

 

[Biscayne]

These stats need context. CONTEXT is too important to just look at those stats and be like "Welp, he's right, AI's overrated".

 

[Optimus Prime]

Stat got blocks and ai lead the nba in steels multiple times. Nash is a revolving door on defense.

defend AI all you want but please don't use that horrible steal stat. The reason why he got so many steals is because he gambled on every play hoping Mutombo/Ratliff would clean up for him at the rim. How many All-Defense teams AI make? None...

 

[#SOG_soldier]

defend AI all you want but please don't use that horrible steal stat. The reason why he got so many steals is because he gambled on every play hoping Mutombo/Ratliff would clean up for him at the rim. How many All-Defense teams AI make? None...

Never said he was great. But he want useless on defense so he is better than Nash

 

[Richard Wright]

nope!


he crossed the goat, won MVP and stepped over Tyronn Lue






Tyronn Lue

Who cares if AI wasn't efficient? Hes fukkimg AI. The man is a legend.

Is he LeBron level(top 3) of course not

Is he kobe level(top 10) of course not

Hes top 30, with Jerry west, Steve Nash , James harden. Hes not greatness because he isn't a champion. But he's a
Legend and no one can take that from him.

 

[Goatpoacher]

These stats need context. CONTEXT is too important to just look at those stats and be like "Welp, he's right, AI's overrated".

Context? AI was fun to watch but he played like an idiot and couldn't coexist with anybody else who wanted the ball.