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[At30wecashout]

This gotta be one of the most hustling backward things I hear y'all say, especially average dudes making average money. If you were zuckerberg, elon musk, Ryan coogler, random nba player, I could see this. But two incomes are better than one, the reason married couples have higher net worths and more assets.

Ol let me build alone and pay all these bills myself when two incomes would actually have me further ahead ass nikkas

Last year I pulled 25k. Thats with lots of overtime. I am going to be making over double that soon.

I still live with my Mom, I've got ~15k of debt to knock out not including a car note, and a heap of self-improvement to do in terms of fashion, health, and attitude.

I have two business ideas to knock out, and started writing a short story I want to self-publish with Amazon hopefully by next month.

Now if you wanted to know WHY I want to get my bread first, there is a smidgen of it. That sound like someone ready to chase a relationship?

 

[semicko82]

If you're building a house you need a strong foundation


If god is you're foundation that house ain't coming Down

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Last year I pulled 25k. Thats with lots of overtime. I am going to be making over double that soon.

I still live with my Mom, I've got ~15k of debt to knock out not including a car note, and a heap of self-improvement to do in terms of fashion, health, and attitude.

I have two business ideas to knock out, and started writing a short story I want to self-publish with Amazon hopefully by next month.

Now if you wanted to know WHY I want to get my bread first, there is a smidgen of it. That sound like someone ready to chase a relationship?

Chase a relationship, no. Be open to one before everything is all set in place, yes. I know plenty of couples whose lives looked just like that but they built together. One was in school while the other worked, they lived with friends and family while paying debt, etc. It ain't for everyone, and yes, some people individually have bigger hurdles, but in general that mode of thinking is thrown out too often as reason to avoid a relationship.

 

[BigMan]

Last year I pulled 25k. Thats with lots of overtime. I am going to be making over double that soon.

I still live with my Mom, I've got ~15k of debt to knock out not including a car note, and a heap of self-improvement to do in terms of fashion, health, and attitude.

I have two business ideas to knock out, and started writing a short story I want to self-publish with Amazon hopefully by next month.

Now if you wanted to know WHY I want to get my bread first, there is a smidgen of it. That sound like someone ready to chase a relationship?

Lmao her comment made no sense

 

[Solo ✧✦✧]

one, this is such a pessimistic, negative view to have of relationships. And what do you mean by having your time wasted? What are you putting out there to these women? Are you showing you're worth them being serious with? And if this is about relationships that end in a break up, that's life. Why act like it's the end of the world?

Still get screwed over? Again, seems like y'all are looking for shyt to go awry or you're messing with terrible women if you feel like the majority of them are screwing you over.


But that's cool, jaded pessimists are better pulling yourselves out the serious dating/relationship game cuz you'll end up being nothing but frustration or heartbreak for someone with a brighter outlook on love and life

I'm really not interested in having a serious discussion about this with women and this is a good example why. "jaded" "pessimist" "negative" same BS cookie cutter terms used again and again. I prove I'm serious, they prove they're serious. I keep my word. They can't keep theirs.

Nah these aren't terrible women. They're women that showed the potential of being good long term women to commit to. I was ready to commit but they weren't. It has nothing to do with having a positive or negative outlook on life. That's simple minded BS that doesn't apply to my experiences. You haven't seen negative if you think I'm too negative for relationships.

 

[semicko82]

Who wants to be alone? If you know bytches ain't shyt, roll with it. Find you pne that doesn't get on your nerves too bad. Don't set yourself up for disappointment.

Easier said than done

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

I'm really not interested in having a serious discussion about this with women and this is a good example why. "jaded" "pessimist" "negative" same BS cookie cutter terms used again and again. I prove I'm serious, they prove they're serious. I keep my word. They can't keep theirs.

Nah these aren't terrible women. They're women that showed the potential of being good long term women to commit to. I was ready to commit but they weren't. It has nothing to do with having a positive or negative outlook on life. That's simple minded BS that doesn't apply to my experiences. You haven't seen negative if you think I'm too negative for relationships.

Breh, I guess my position in this thread comes from the sweeping generalizations that y'all throw out about all women. One, that's just stupid - sweeping generalizations shouldn't be made about any group of 5 or more people, and two, if you are consistently dealing with women who end up being on some fukk shyt, again, to me, that points to an issue you're having with mate selection.

But I'll let y'all carry on

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Lmao her comment made no sense

How so?

 

[BigMan]

How so?

Being broke and having an uncertain future is a very valid reason not to be in a relationshipespecially if you’re a man
What decent woman wants to date an unemployed man
Women are not investing financially in their men anyway
And why the fukk would Ryan coogler or an nba player have to get their money up?

 

[Solo ✧✦✧]

Breh, I guess my position in this thread comes from the sweeping generalizations that y'all throw out about all women. One, that's just stupid - sweeping generalizations shouldn't be made about any group of 5 or more people, and two, if you are consistently dealing with women who end up being on some fukk shyt, again, to me, that points to an issue you're having with mate selection.

But I'll let y'all carry on

I'm just speaking on my experiences, couldn't care less if it comes off as a generalization or not. I don't sugar coat anything on a majority male forum. Of course it's an issue I have with mate selection. I guess choosing women that fit my personality, social class, share similar interests, similar moral beliefs, and are sexually compatible with me just isn't good enough. I'll look into learning mind reading skills so I can choose the perfect woman and finally not be the problem.

 

[Geek Nasty]

Definitely changed my expectations with women; I have zero anymore. You just never know what your woman is up to when shes out the door. I was full court press with this dental assistant during an appointment, didnt care because the ass and titties were whoa. Overheard her asking her coworkers what they thought of me when she was in the next room. I come in a week later for fillings and noticed when she didn't have her gloves on she had an engagement ring She even coughed when I causually asked, but I would still smash

My opinion now is the world's always been like this. There's just a much better network of people communicating so more brehs are woke to it

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Being broke and having an uncertain future is a very valid reason not to be in a relationshipespecially if you’re a man
What decent woman wants to date an unemployed man
Women are not investing financially in their men anyway
And why the fukk would Ryan coogler or an nba player have to get their money up?

being broke and feeling uncertain is definitely a reason that holds people back, if you're not in the right frame of mind personally, you can't be what's required by someone else in a relationship. But if you're emotionally healthy and broke, then waiting for the perfect circumstance is stupid.

And plenty of good women get with struggling men, wtf? And funny you would even say that...y'all nikkas will be in the next thread complaining that women only come around when you got all your shyt together. Anyway, there's a reason people talk about their day ones, the woman who let them sleep on the couch, took care of bills while he's struggling. Your financial situation is just one part of who you are. If you're working toward something, plenty of women are ok with that.

And I didn't say those dudes need to get their money up, I said I can see why people like them would put stacking paper before and making career moves ahead of women since they're playing a higher stakes game and don't necessarily benefit financially from a mate. They are outside of "normal" which I consider anyone making 40-300k/yr.

Lastly, I posted that because I see stable, fully employed men making 30-80k say shyt like this as well...just stack this paper etc. As a reason they can't/won't pursue a relationship then complain about debt and bills. Like I said, I come from the view, and see the benefit of having two incomes, and a relationship/marriage is a good way to achieve that. I make well over 100k and life is still better with someone to split bills with so I can stack more for investments.

I'm just speaking on my experiences, couldn't care less if it comes off as a generalization or not. I don't sugar coat anything on a majority male forum. Of course it's an issue I have with mate selection. I guess choosing women that fit my personality, social class, share similar interests, similar moral beliefs, and are sexually compatible with me just isn't good enough. I'll look into learning mind reading skills so I can choose the perfect woman and finally not be the problem.

ok...

 

[BigMan]

being broke and feeling uncertain is definitely a reason that holds people back, if you're not in the right frame of mind personally, you can't be what's required by someone else in a relationship. But if you're emotionally healthy and broke, then waiting for the perfect circumstance is stupid.

And plenty of good women get with struggling men, wtf? And funny you would even say that...y'all nikkas will be in the next thread complaining that women only come around when you got all your shyt together. Anyway, there's a reason people talk about their day ones, the woman who let them sleep on the couch, took care of bills while he's struggling. Your financial situation is just one part of who you are. If you're working toward something, plenty of women are ok with that.

And I didn't say those dudes need to get their money up, I said I can see why people like them would put stacking paper before and making career moves ahead of women since they're playing a higher stakes game and don't necessarily benefit financially from a mate. They are outside of "normal" which I consider anyone making 40-300k/yr.

Lastly, I posted that because I see stable, fully employed men making 30-80k say shyt like this as well...just stack this paper etc. As a reason they can't/won't pursue a relationship then complain about debt and bills. Like I said, I come from the view, and see the benefit of having two incomes, and a relationship/marriage is a good way to achieve that. I make well over 100k and life is still better with someone to split bills with so I can stack more for investments.
ok...

So you would date my son with his poverty level income and debt?

And you think emotional health and your income are not linked, especially as a man?

Dual incomes only comes into play if you’re married or in a long term stable relationship . A lot of dudes can’t even afford drinks smh

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

So you would date my son with his poverty level income and debt?

At this point in my life, no. Already know what you're going to say...we can get into that as well

10 years ago, given the other parts of what matters in a mate check out, yes.

 

[BigMan]

At this point in my life, no.

Ok then