A 20 year old mike tyson would put the beats on any heavyweight in any era

[Field Marshall Bradley]

I'm just sayin mg Foreman had a good boxing pedigree. People seem to think he was just a slugger with massive power.

Where did anyone say that Foreman was simply a slugger?

Is it because I said Tyson was a better boxer?


What type of extreme logic is that?

 

[yo moms]

Where did anyone say that Foreman was simply a slugger?

Is it because I said Tyson was a better boxer?


What type of extreme logic is that?

I just assumed that's what you thought. Because there's no way Tyson has better boxing skills than Foreman. The same Tyson that came in head first causing loads of headbutts. Struggled to fight on the inside without holding. Stance was all wrong with all his weight over his front foot. Etc.

 

[Niqqa You Gay]

On March 9 1987, former heavyweight champion George Foreman stopped journeyman Steve Zouski in the fourth round. Foreman's fight versus Zouski was the official beginning of the second leg of Foreman's 18-year career, after being retired for ten years. Foreman's bout with Zouski was his first fight since losing a decision to third-ranked contender Jimmy Young back on March 17 1977.

Foreman said he came back to reclaim the title he lost to Muhammad Ali back in October of 1974. After beating Zouski, Foreman fought on a schedule that had him in the ring just about every other month. He would constantly tell anyone with a microphone after each fight that, he came back because he knew he could beat Mike Tyson and wanted to fight him for the title. Through Big George's first ten to fifteen fights, he was laughed at for the quality of the fighters he was fighting and wasn't taken seriously. Foreman never made excuses for them and admitted that he was fighting guys who had no chance of beating him. He said that he wanted to get used to being back in the ring and was in no hurry. In 1987, Foreman fought five times; in 1988, he fought nine times and in 1989, he fought five times. After 19 fights, Foreman was 19-0 (18). During the course of those 19 fights, Foreman only fought two name fighters: former light heavyweight and cruiserweight champ Dwight Muhammad Qawi (formerly Dwight Braxton), and fringe contender Bert Cooper, stopping both.

On January 15, 1990, Foreman fought a former heavyweight title challenger, the hard-hitting Gerry c00ney. c00ney was making a comeback after not fighting in almost two and a half years. c00ney viewed Foreman as an easy win and figured he could capitalize off of Foreman's name and jump to the front of the heavyweight picture with an impressive victory. Going into the fight neither Foreman or c00ney were perceived to be a real threat to any of the top heavyweights in the world, let alone Tyson who was just 23 and the unbeaten, undisputed champ.

By January of 1990, Foreman had built up such a following and fan base that the Foreman-c00ney fight was only seen on PPV. It took Foreman less than two full rounds to mutilate c00ney sending him back into permanent retirement. Foreman displayed accuracy and devastating power in stopping c00ney. It wasn't until after Foreman's destruction of c00ney that he was taken as a serious title contender. Before the boxing world had time to digest Foreman's showing against c00ney, it was dealt an even bigger shock 26 days later.

On February 10 1990, 42-1 underdog James "Buster" Douglas literally turned the boxing world upside down when he traveled to Tokyo and knocked out undisputed heavyweight champ Mike Tyson. Don King promoted Tyson, at the time of his defeat. After Tyson's loss to Douglas, King wanted to have Tyson fight in a high profile fight. He figured a spectacular knockout win over a name opponent would get Tyson back on track to being the man in the heavyweight picture again. King thought he found the perfect opponent in Foreman who was all over television after beating c00ney. Foreman never passed up an opportunity to take a shot at Tyson and throw out challenges to him while doing the talk show circuit.

In the subsequent months following Foreman's victory over c00ney and Douglas' upset of Tyson, there was much talk of a Foreman-Tyson fight. It was a potential fight that captured the public's imagination, and not just the boxing public. In fact, there were several reports that the fight was signed and about to be announced. ESPN Sportscenter devoted numerous segments on the fight assuming it was going to happen. Shortly thereafter, there was an announcement that Foreman and Tyson were going to fight on the same card. In late April of 1990, it was announced that Foreman and Tyson would be fighting a co-main event on June 16 to be broadcast on HBO. Foreman's opponent was Adilson Rodrigues, who was ranked in the top ten by two of the major sanctioning bodies. Tyson's opponent was the unranked Henry Tillman. Tillman was best known for beating Tyson twice in the 1984 Olympic trials.

At this time, Evander Holyfield was getting ready for his sixth fight as a heavyweight against Seamus McDonagh on June 1 in Atlantic City. On the day of the Holyfield-McDonagh fight, I went to grab something to eat with Georgie Benton, Lou Duva and Bobby Goodman. At the time, Goodman was, and still is, Don King's matchmaker. I've known Benton for many years, through him I met Duva, and was introduced to Goodman a couple weeks before Tyson fought Larry Holmes at the Convention Center in Atlantic City in January 1988.

While we were eating, Benton said, "Bobby, what's up with Foreman and Tyson, how come they're not fighting each other on the 16th? Isn't that the fight that King was trying to make?" He said, "Georgie, You'll never believe this but, fukkin' Tyson is scared shyt less of Foreman and wants no part of him. I was there when Don was trying to make the fight. He was telling Tyson that Foreman represented huge money, plus he was old and slow and would be no problem. Tyson got up and screamed at King saying, 'I'm not fight in' that fukkin' animal, if you love the motherfukker so much, you fight him!'"

Goodman stated that Tyson said Foreman was much better than people thought, and was a dangerous fight for any of the top heavyweights. Goodman proceeded to explain how Tyson was calling Foreman a big con man, and explained that the grandpop act was just a front. He said Tyson saw Foreman as trying to set up the boxing world into thinking he was a pushover, knowing that he really wasn't. Tyson said Foreman was a wolf in sheep's clothing. Goodman continued to say that after seeing Tyson's response to King trying to push him into a fight with Foreman, he had no doubt that Tyson had fear of Foreman. He also said that from that point on, he felt that if Foreman and Tyson ever fought, Foreman would knock Tyson out!

Throughout the lunch Goodman, Duva, Benton, and myself shared stories and thoughts on the fight game. Out of the blue Goodman said, "Oh I remember why else Tyson wanted no parts of Foreman. He said that King had found out from Steve Lott that Tyson and Cus D'Amato used to watch the Frazier-Foreman fight over and over." He continued saying that Tyson loved that fight because he was awed by Foreman's power and Frazier's toughness and how he kept getting up after every knockdown. He also said that Lott told King that Cus sat alongside Tyson saying, "It's suicide against Foreman if you're short and fight a swarming attacking style like Marciano or Frazier," never figuring that Foreman could be a possible Tyson opponent down the road. He said that Cus said the only fighters who had a chance against Foreman were, tall rangy fighters who could fight him from a distance while moving away from him, and no way any swarmer could beat Foreman by going to him.

Those are the words of the man who actually had a hand in trying to make the Foreman-Tyson fight, and was in the room when the negotiations broke down. Over the years, I've talked to many people who were involved with Tyson and Foreman and they all verify the story, every one of them. I have also talked to people who were involved with promoting Foreman, including Ron Weathers who promoted a few of Foreman's comeback fights. He told me the same story. The fight didn't happen because of Tyson being fearful of losing to George. Bob Arum also said that he dreamed of making Foreman-Tyson. He said it would be huge money and that Foreman would stop Tyson easier than he did Frazier. This is something Arum often repeated to the press. I have also heard this from George's brother Roy who was his business manager. I co-hosted a boxing show with Roy in Atlantic City for a little less than two months and this was a regular topic when discussing Tyson. Anyone who covered boxing at the time or knew any of the involved parties knew of this. It's not breaking news.

It is absolutely a fact that Mike Tyson was afraid to fight 41-year-old George Foreman--the same Foreman who Evander Holyfield would fight and beat in April of 1991. I have not a doubt that had Foreman and Tyson fought anytime between 1990 and 1997 that Foreman would have knocked Tyson out inside of three rounds. Tyson just has nothing to beat Foreman with; his edge in hand speed would have been a non-factor. He can't beat him by backing away, and he would have gotten his head handed to him if he brought the fight to Foreman. In addition, Foreman was bigger, stronger, tougher and hit harder. Not to mention the fact that Foreman had a better chin and no fear or doubt, unlike Tyson, who was full of fear and self-doubt.

Think about it, Foreman-Tyson was the biggest fight that could have been made in 1990. Foreman was perceived to be an easy fight for Tyson, and it would have been his biggest payday to date. There can only be one reason why Tyson didn't fight Foreman, and that's because he feared losing to him.

I haven't a morsel of a doubt that Tyson just doesn't match up with Foreman, and he knows it. If Tyson of 1990 was afraid of an old Foreman, think how petrified he would of been of a prime Foreman, the one who stared down both Joe Frazier and Muhammad Ali in 1973 and 1974.

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[Ego Noir]

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Are you related to OJ?

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

I just assumed that's what you thought. Because there's no way Tyson has better boxing skills than Foreman. The same Tyson that came in head first causing loads of headbutts. Struggled to fight on the inside without holding. Stance was all wrong with all his weight over his front foot. Etc.

Sound like white boy logic to me.......

Tyson's Peek A Boo style at 19-21>>>>than Foreman's prime boxing skills..

Best thing about Foreman was when he landed his jab, you stayed hit.....

 

[yo moms]

Sound like white boy logic to me.......

Tyson's Peek A Boo style at 19-21>>>>than Foreman's prime boxing skills..

Best thing about Foreman was when he landed his jab, you stayed hit.....

If Tyson had a good stance he wouldn't have kept clashing heads against Holyfield every time he threw a right hand. He falls in head first.

Foreman loves small fighters that come in low. Those uppercuts

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

If Tyson had a good stance he wouldn't have kept clashing heads against Holyfield every time he threw a right hand. He falls in head first.

Foreman loves small fighters that come in low. Those uppercuts

I could have swore the O.P. said 20 year old Tyson....

Tyson was a wash when he got out of jail, and Holyfield was the King of head butting

 

[Carlos Huerta]

For some reason its become the in thing to say tyson weren't all that

But a tyson with cus and rooney would destroy anyone.

Dude single handedly brought back boxing as a teen

Won the heavyweight tittle with ease

Was 5'9/5'10 but was the most feared heavyweight of all time.


I love ali for what he did for black folks, but come on...tyson would of beat the shyt outta him lol

Who fukking with my nikka mike!!!!

Mike Tyson vs. Trevor Berbick - YouTube

You should go back to school and take more English classes. You really don't have a good handle on the language.

 

[yo moms]

I could have swore the O.P. said 20 year old Tyson....

Tyson was a wash when he got out of jail, and Holyfield was the King of head butting

The peekaboo system is flawed so it doesn't matter what Tyson it is. They are too square especially on the inside. Tyson would have huge trouble with someone like toney who turns his shoulder on the inside and offers no target. He'd get eaten up by uppercuts all day.

Tyson vs bowe would have been great to see too.

You can see all the flaws in the buster Douglas fight.

 

[Lewis Black]

Think about it, Foreman-Tyson was the biggest fight that could have been made in 1990. Foreman was perceived to be an easy fight for Tyson, and it would have been his biggest payday to date. There can only be one reason why Tyson didn't fight Foreman, and that's because he feared losing to him.

lol this bs. Tyson would beat any era foreman.

A prime tyson is way faster than the ali he faced.(tyson not faster than prime ali doe)

 

[Carlos Huerta]

Yo moms speaking that truth. Some of you cats don't know that Foreman was Tyson before Tyson.

 

[gangreen]

Prime Lennox Lewis and the Klitschkos could have beaten Tyson in his prime.

People forget that the intimidation factor played a major role in Mike's early success (He even said it in his documentary) Once that intimidation is gone and pure boxing skills is at work, Prime Tyson would not beat the class of the heavyweight division during their eras in like the first three rounds, he would go the distance with each and every one of them.

 

[FreshAIG]

Tyson in his prime is the best and most complete boxer ever

 

[Carlos Huerta]

Tyson in his prime is the best and most complete boxer ever

statements like this are red flags for "I don't know much about boxing".

 

[FreshAIG]

statements like this are red flags for "I don't know much about boxing".

What did he not possess?