A breh gon enlist in the Air Force

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So I was just talking to my cousin and he's trying for the Navy now. Said the Air Force acts stuck up. But he stays in Alabama and I'm way up north. I guess it depends on the recruiter.


How hard is it to get in:ld: I have an associates and I'm decent at math, took Pre-Calculus. That's about it. On top of that I'll be 29 in October:flabbynsick:

I don't really have a backup plan. If this Air Force thing falls through the only thing I can think of is going to university for my Bachelors.

You’re actually ahead of the curve and should be ok. What do you want to do? I can answer any question you may have. But...if I were you I’d try to go rotc route. What’s your degree path? Or do you have basic Ed requirements? Either way still good

Edit. Pre Calculus? Man we need to talk!
 

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You’re actually ahead of the curve and should be ok. What do you want to do? I can answer any question you may have. But...if I were you I’d try to go rotc route. What’s your degree path? Or do you have basic Ed requirements? Either way still good

Edit. Pre Calculus? Man we need to talk!


I have an associates degree in Construction Management. Pre Calculus was a requirement. Took PreCalc Algebra/Trigonometry combined. It wasn't that bad, I passed with a C, but I was lazy and hardly studied.
 

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I have an associates degree in Construction Management. Pre Calculus was a requirement. Took PreCalc Algebra/Trigonometry combined. It wasn't that bad, I passed with a C, but I was lazy and hardly studied.

I believe if I was in the same position I’d go ROTC, get your commission and do it that way. You’re only 1 1/2 years away from a BA/BS degree. Focus on that and do summer school. Prepare for a new life as a officer
 

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I believe if I was in the same position I’d go ROTC, get your commission and do it that way. You’re only 1 1/2 years away from a BA/BS degree. Focus on that and do summer school. Prepare for a new life as a officer


Makes sense, though my mindset isn't for school right now. Definitely something to think about. I don't know anything about ROTC

And if I go in as an officer I can try out for pilot school, my dream:wow:
 

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Makes sense, though my mindset isn't for school right now. Definitely something to think about. I don't know anything about ROTC

And if I go in as an officer I can try out for pilot school, my dream:wow:

Bruh, there is no way around school if you want to be a pilot. It’s called Air Force for a reason and I flew for about 14 years too (enlisted) man I know you may not be ready for school but you need to focus. You are a high demand type because you’re math heavy, you can’t fly as a pilot unless you can do math. I flew as enlisted aircrew. shyt was majestic. Saw the world. Go pick 5 universities and ask to see ROTC instructors ASAP, come back and let me know what they say. Also google ROTC. That’s the route my girl took. She about to be a Col soon
 

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If you got a degree in Public health try for OCS do you have to stay in that field. Plus how difficult is becoming a pilot if that's not your background?
 

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If you got a degree in Public health try for OCS do you have to stay in that field. Plus how difficult is becoming a pilot if that's not your background?

pilots are different. You can have a degree in basket weaving, if you pass pilots exams and can qualify, aren’t color blind then you fly. Period. Now, some of y’all won’t pass or qualify for fighters so you fly refuelers and cargo ACs. If you still wash out if that you can be a navigator on C-130s or other ACs with navigators. If you wash out if that you go back into the bucket to be whatever is needed

Btw ocs is hard way to get commission. Either do ROTC or direct appointment. (Medical careers)
 

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pilots are different. You can have a degree in basket weaving, if you pass pilots exams and can qualify, aren’t color blind then you fly. Period. Now, some of y’all won’t pass or qualify for fighters so you fly refuelers and cargo ACs. If you still wash out if that you can be a navigator on C-130s or other ACs with navigators. If you wash out if that you go back into the bucket to be whatever is needed

Btw ocs is hard way to get commission. Either do ROTC or direct appointment. (Medical careers)
Is that the same for all branches cuz both the Air Force and Coast guard was the only ones i was considering
 

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Is that the same for all branches cuz both the Air Force and Coast guard was the only ones i was considering

I believe so. You’ll have to ask the true pilots but I’ve seen a punk ass cop Lt in airforce go on to fly B-52s. Wish I could see him now I’d slug his sorry ass. A real douchebag. But yeah
 

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pilots are different. You can have a degree in basket weaving, if you pass pilots exams and can qualify, aren’t color blind then you fly. Period. Now, some of y’all won’t pass or qualify for fighters so you fly refuelers and cargo ACs. If you still wash out if that you can be a navigator on C-130s or other ACs with navigators. If you wash out if that you go back into the bucket to be whatever is needed

Btw ocs is hard way to get commission. Either do ROTC or direct appointment. (Medical careers)

To add, getting selected as Rated Officer (flying officer) is far more selective and difficult than getting selected for Non rated Officer positions.

You'll be up against staunch competition many of whom have flying hours under their belt already. AFOQT (the officer qualifying exam) scores for rated Os tend to be extremely high and you also have to take the TBAS (test for basic aviation skills as well).
Also the flight medical physical is very selective. you cannot have really any chronic medical issues and no vision issues.

ROTC is the most sure fire way to be a officer in the AF period, however applying for and graduating OTS is way faster and puts you in the pool for more officer jobs. If you want to fly and commission through OTS, your chances arent as good since flying officer selection boards for candidates off the street only meet like twice a year.

Getting commissioned through ROTC means you're competing against your fellow cadets in a detachment for certain jobs and flying jobs are the most coveted and most rare, typically only a couple of flying jobs are being given out per ROTC detachment.
 

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Is that the same for all branches cuz both the Air Force and Coast guard was the only ones i was considering

Breh I'm not even sure if the CG has ROTC programs lol the CG is extremely small and selective plus they are not DoD so theres not a lot of knowledge and opportunities about them compared to the Mil Branches.

But yes for branches that have aviation (which also means Helicopters...ppl forget that the majority of CG and Army are helicopter pilots) this is typically the case though ideally for airplanes they want candidates to have prior flying experience

With that said...2 Officer candidates from my OTS class got re-slotted as pilots during training because their scores were good and the AF needed bodies and i dont think either one of them had previous flying experience
 

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Breh I'm not even sure if the CG has ROTC programs lol the CG is extremely small and selective plus they are not DoD so theres not a lot of knowledge and opportunities about them compared to the Mil Branches.

But yes for branches that have aviation (which also means Helicopters...ppl forget that the majority of CG and Army are helicopter pilots) this is typically the case though ideally for airplanes they want candidates to have prior flying experience

With that said...2 Officer candidates from my OTS class got re-slotted as pilots during training because their scores were good and the AF needed bodies and i dont think either one of them had previous flying experience
:salute:to both you and @Abraxus for shedding light on the process.

I already graduated with my degree I don't want it to seem like I was looking into rotc.. My main thing was if a college grad off the street scored well enough on the asvab would they be able to do ocs and flight school even if theyre background wasn't in it. From what I heard most officers are not hands on and occupy a somewhat management role. But with helicopter pilots you're a officer but still very active tho
 

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:salute:to both you and @Abraxus for shedding light on the process.

I already graduated with my degree I don't want it to seem like I was looking into rotc.. My main thing was if a college grad off the street scored well enough on the asvab would they be able to do ocs and flight school even if theyre background wasn't in it. From what I heard most officers are not hands on and occupy a somewhat management role. But with helicopter pilots you're a officer but still very active tho

With high enough AFOQT amd TBAS scores you're certainly competitive even off of the street. However ROTC and Academy grads are the majority of pilots in the Active Duty world unfortunately.

And in Operations career fields like flying, special operations and Cyber, officers are way more hands long and are directly leading missions but still doing hands on operations work side by side with Enlisted as well.

In non operations work you're way more of a manager letting your SNCOs and E6s run the shop and doing more administrative work and briefing to the Squadron and Group commanders.
 

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:salute:to both you and @Abraxus for shedding light on the process.

I already graduated with my degree I don't want it to seem like I was looking into rotc.. My main thing was if a college grad off the street scored well enough on the asvab would they be able to do ocs and flight school even if theyre background wasn't in it. From what I heard most officers are not hands on and occupy a somewhat management role. But with helicopter pilots you're a officer but still very active tho


Also Coast Guard? Really?:hhh: Most of us don't even consider that a damn military branch:mjlol: IJS:manny:

Then youre wayyyy ahead of the curve! What you wanna fly? Helos or Fixed wing? Still gotta be good in math (and then science) YOu may be ready for Army Warrant School. Still a good life, but you gotta be committed to the journey. AFmay take you but you can't get away from going through pilot training and it's intense.
 
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